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SubSlutSlave11 -> NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 1:44:16 PM)
I am just wondering... When I read, "...no limits or safeword will be honored..." Are You (D/M) speaking of after ownership? Or during sessions or training?? I ask bc I am curious how it goes down. Do Your hards (or lack of limits) become theirs, automatically? Thanks in advance. :)

Lynnxz -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 1:50:47 PM)
quote: "...no limits or safeword will be honored..." Oh, it's ok, it gets lost in translation. Just drop it into Google translate, select Fucktard => English. Roughly, it comes out to this: "I have never been in a legitimate relationship involving BDSM, I have no idea what I'm doing, and because I refuse to take my partner's emotional and physical safety into consideration, I should probably be avoided at all costs."

AthenaSurrenders -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 1:51:22 PM)
Honestly, I'd guess the people who are writing that in personal ads aren't getting many takers. Sounds like someone pretty unrealistic in their fantasies to me, not someone with much practical experience. Some folks don't need safewords because they play in such a way that ordinary communication isn't hampered - the sub can just say 'wait, something isn't right'. That's obviously not the case if the person is saying the safeword won't be 'honored'. Others might decide, once trust is built up, to dispense with safe words, but that's a risky game for anyone since there's always things you can't account for. Anyone who is saying they won't allow safewords from the beginning might as well just tattoo 'abuser' across their forehead, because they clearly don't care about the submissive's safety. In reality, if the sub withdraws consent by safewording and the dominant continues it becomes assault and/or rape. Edit: Lynnxz said it faster and better

LadyConstanze -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 2:01:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz quote: "...no limits or safeword will be honored..." Oh, it's ok, it gets lost in translation. Just drop it into Google translate, select Fucktard => English. Roughly, it comes out to this: "I have never been in a legitimate relationship involving BDSM, I have no idea what I'm doing, and because I refuse to take my partner's emotional and physical safety into consideration, I should probably be avoided at all costs." Or in case it's a female: "I'm only here to fulfil your fantasy, so I talk like they do in bad BDSM porn, in exchange, have your wallet and credit card ready"

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 2:21:50 PM)
FR~ Great answers by everyone but Lynnx said it perfectly!! [:D]

Darkfeather -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 3:42:18 PM)
"Here, hold this stick of dynamite until it explodes" "No way, that would really hurt yaknow?" "...no limits or safeword will be honored..." That explain it better?

DaddySatyr -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 3:51:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Darkfeather "Here, hold this stick of dynamite until it explodes" If you were a roadrunner and I were a coyote, that might just be effective.

JeffBC -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 4:04:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz Roughly, it comes out to this: "I have never been in a legitimate relationship involving BDSM, I have no idea what I'm doing, and because I refuse to take my partner's emotional and physical safety into consideration, I should probably be avoided at all costs." Yes, because as we all know TPE relationships are fantasies of the stupid right?

Lynnxz -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 4:28:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz Roughly, it comes out to this: "I have never been in a legitimate relationship involving BDSM, I have no idea what I'm doing, and because I refuse to take my partner's emotional and physical safety into consideration, I should probably be avoided at all costs." Yes, because as we all know TPE relationships are fantasies of the stupid right? Come on now, you REALLY think this applies to TPE? These people haven't even met yet.

FightingChains -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:04:14 PM)
Even if it was TPE shouldn't a safeword, or some way of communicating unsafe activity be required? I know LW uses direct communication from what I read. No safewording and no other similar "ok this is really a risk" communication seems... Stupid.

Darkfeather -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:21:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: Darkfeather "Here, hold this stick of dynamite until it explodes" If you were a roadrunner and I were a coyote, that might just be effective. " Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Wile E. Coyote, genius. I am not selling anything nor am I working my way through college. So let's get down to cases: you are a rabbit, and I am going to eat you for supper. Now, don't try to get away! I am more muscular, more cunning, faster, and larger than you are, and I am a genius. Why you could hardly pass the entrance examinations to kindergarten. So I'll give you the customary two minutes to say your prayers." Operation: Rabbit

littlewonder -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:35:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11 I am just wondering... When I read, "...no limits or safeword will be honored..." Are You (D/M) speaking of after ownership? Or during sessions or training?? I ask bc I am curious how it goes down. Do Your hards (or lack of limits) become theirs, automatically? Thanks in advance. :) Depends on the person stating that. Only way you know is by asking him/her what they mean by that. No two people are going to answer the same.

littlewonder -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:37:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FightingChains Even if it was TPE shouldn't a safeword, or some way of communicating unsafe activity be required? I know LW uses direct communication from what I read. No safewording and no other similar "ok this is really a risk" communication seems... Stupid. Maybe that's their kink. If so, then so be it. As long as they accept the risks, who cares?

mummyman321 -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:38:33 PM)
If you are looking for a relationship in BDSM, then realize that relationship is not one sided. It should be made of the two of you having things in common. Both of you having desires and that your relationship will meet and grow both your wants and desires. The Dom maybe the master of the relationship, but it does not mean you have no say in the matter. If you have no say in anything then there is no relationship. It takes 2 to make it work. I have never believed in no limits or no safeword approach. Being the lifestyle 30+ years as a sub it has served me well. But each must choose his/her own path.

kalikshama -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz quote: "...no limits or safeword will be honored..." Oh, it's ok, it gets lost in translation. Just drop it into Google translate, select Fucktard => English. Roughly, it comes out to this: "I have never been in a legitimate relationship involving BDSM, I have no idea what I'm doing, and because I refuse to take my partner's emotional and physical safety into consideration, I should probably be avoided at all costs." Bravo!

FightingChains -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:49:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder Maybe that's their kink. If so, then so be it. As long as they accept the risks, who cares? Yeah I agree, but I'm still sticking by that seeming a little stupid. Or at the very least dangerous. But you're right about risks - you want to take them, take them.

littlewonder -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 5:57:57 PM)
Meh. Lots of things are stupid to me. Jumping out of an airplane is stupid to me but to each their own.

Lynnxz -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 6:17:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder Meh. Lots of things are stupid to me. Jumping out of an airplane is stupid to me but to each their own. No, this is like jumping out of a plane without a parachute.

Musicmystery -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 7:02:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr If you were a roadrunner and I were a coyote, that might just be effective. Wasn't that a Bobby Darin hit?

Blueswordsman -> RE: NO Safeword...?? (3/20/2014 7:11:24 PM)
“No limits or safeword will be honored” is the writing of someone looking to sound scary or a really scary guy. Every person involved in the life style has limits. Some like to push their limits. I don’t recommend anyone exceed their limits without forethought, an emergency plan, safeword and trusted partner. I’m a bedroom tie them up, slap and tickle Dom. In the bedroom (not mailroom) I occasionally will use a line like. “Tonight you will perform without limits or safeword” as a scary element of play. However I always know the lady’s limits and dislikes before we play. Exceeding limits and use of a safe word kind of runes the mood.

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