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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/4/2014 12:30:26 AM   
Dvr22999874


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Benedictine = Hazelnut ? Please explain. It always tasted like mixed herbs to me. Are you sure you have the right liqueur ?

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/4/2014 5:47:40 AM   
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I rarely if I ever drink anymore.
But take this red pill and call your Authority in the morning.
Doctors orders.


Ok, so I am not a doctor. But men exploit women a lot. Oh yes its true.

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/4/2014 7:44:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

I happened by a IFC film that depicted a woman who is broke and turns to prostitution. I lost interest in the film, but the film did get me thinking. She was inexperienced. A man picked her up for a hand job. One of the things he negotiated with her was he wanted her to talk dirty. She naively told him the truth when he asked her why was she doing this? She said it was because she was broke. What he wanted her to say was she was a horny slut. He admitted that he found her desirable. To me this should lower the barrier for compassion. Human love is imperfect. Though imperfect it is still real. Why aren't the men moved to compassion and say what can I do to get you out of having to do this? Perhaps men are and we just don't hear about it. Perhaps they don't because such feeling is impractical. If so, why would it be? If it is because he is married, I do not see that as an excuse. But perhaps it is unwise because such women cannot be trusted or the system cannot be trusted. Or perhaps it is because it costs money and it is a lot cheaper just to exploit her circumstances than to be of assistance to her.

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I suppose it would depend on the circumstances, although I oftentimes find myself scratching my head at some of the behavior of some men out there. Every so often, one might hear of a sex trafficking ring being broken up (just like a recent thread about an Air France couple trafficking women from Brazil). The women were lured in but soon found themselves stuck with no way out. They were forced to see several men per day, but I had to wonder: Who the hell are these men who aid and abet this kind of stuff?

Personally, I've never been to a prostitute, although I was propositioned once. I was working as a courier at the time and stopped to get gas, and this young lady walked up to me and asked if I could give her a ride somewhere. Against my better judgment, I said okay, but it turned out I was heading in the opposite direction from where she said she was headed. 5 seconds after pulling out from the gas station, she asked me "Do you date?" I thought she meant something like dinner out and a movie, but I quickly caught on that she meant something completely different. She offered to give me a blow job for $15, however I declined. She still asked for money, so I gave her what little I had in my wallet, about 5 or 6 dollars. Then she didn't even want the ride anymore, so she got out after two blocks.

I didn't really ask her about her situation, as it wasn't really any of my business anyway. As far as I could tell, she wasn't being forced into anything, and she seemed able-bodied enough that she probably could have gotten a job as a waitress or a maid somewhere. But she was making her own choices of her own free will, so I just left it at that.

But there was another situation I read about in the Bay Area a few years back, where they busted a sex-trafficking ring in which Korean girls were being illegally smuggled into the United States to work in brothels. So, they were in the country illegally where they didn't know the system and had a poor command of the English language, putting them totally at the mercy of their pimps. But out of the (apparently) numerous customers they had, not one of them had enough scruples or conscience to say "Hey, this is wrong" and report it to the proper authorities?

Although considering who the "proper authorities" are, that may be where part of the problem lies. The police have had periodic sting operations, in which police women have posed as prostitutes in areas where the "johns" are known to frequent. The public reaction was mixed, and even those who supported it were pretty lukewarm about it. It seemed it was attacking a symptom and not really dealing with the root of the problem. Some might believe that if prostitution was legal, it could free up police resources so that they could spend more time going after the real scumbags and sex traffickers.

Another option is that we men could all get together and boycott the sex industry completely. If there was no demand for it, then there'd be no money in it, and nobody would get involved in it.






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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 1:47:33 PM   
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Men often offer young girls help to get out of prostitution but many girls will remain in prostitution through fear. Sometimes its safer to remain with a pimp or the mob that own them because the fear of consequences are too great. Other girls (a lot) are on 'crack'. Crack addicts don't think about a better life away from prostitution but about their next score. Some girls enjoy it because it gives them independence and they see nothing wrong with what they are doing.

I'm pro prostitution providing the girls enjoying her work, doing it cleanly and living well off her earnings.



hit the nail on the head......um..the head of the nail to be specific

bout the only thing that we(the general public) can do to avoid women turning to prostitution out of desperation(as opposed to an actual career choice)is to ensure that there are plenty of jobs available for the unskilled masses..

I wonder if the recent decline in our economy and the decimation of our manufacturing sector is going to cause a spike in prostitution arrests

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 6:47:22 PM   
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Another option is that we men could all get together and boycott the sex industry completely. If there was no demand for it, then there'd be no money in it, and nobody would get involved in it.

Roflmfao

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 6:54:23 PM   
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If a woman or man wants to be a pornstar or a prostitute, let her or him. And the reason porn is so exploitive is because there is not enough regulations on it, because most people want to pretend it doesnt exist.

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 6:54:30 PM   
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I wonder if the recent decline in our economy and the decimation of our manufacturing sector is going to cause a spike in prostitution arrests

Along the same line...since the downturn in the economy and the higher prices for diesel fuel the price of pussy has been comming down.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100994185

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 7:21:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CobaltRose

If a woman or man wants to be a pornstar or a prostitute, let her or him. And the reason porn is so exploitive is because there is not enough regulations on it, because most people want to pretend it doesnt exist.



I know it exists ...I watch it.

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 7:23:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

If there is a brandy made by Benedictine monks, I am sure a salve can be fashioned for prostitutes.


Is there no balm in Gilead?


The generic form is called ky.

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/5/2014 7:24:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

I rarely if I ever drink anymore.


But do you drink any less?

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/6/2014 1:00:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Another option is that we men could all get together and boycott the sex industry completely. If there was no demand for it, then there'd be no money in it, and nobody would get involved in it.

Roflmfao

Like that's ever gonna happen! LOL

Why don't you guys just boycott sex altogether? We could all go out and celebrate the occasion platonically...with rounds of Benedictine cognac...which might lead to an orgy, perchance. (Don't forget to bring your "balm.")

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/6/2014 2:23:28 AM   
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My own personal definition is that all consenting adult sex workers of any gender or service preference are providing a service that others find valuable. Purchasing this service should be viewed as exchanging value (service) for value (cash).

In my view plenty of "vanilla" marriages fit into this category too. Mine did!

Of course I also went on to become a sex worker myself, to try it out. I had some fun, but as a man who enjoys women best, the income potential was not high..

There are always going to be concerns about safety and consensuality.

I suggest that if one is serious about making life better for sex workers that they help work towards removing criminal penalties and requiring regulation and benefits for sex workers.

Joining the National Coalition For Sexual Freedom is a very good idea for anyone kinky, whether they are sex workers or not.

Standing up to bullies trying to attack sex workers to pretend to improve the world is ALWAYS important, whether the bullies are religious zealots, politicians trying to divert attention from their own failures, or D. A's and police agencies trying to show toughness on crime by harassing sex workers.

"WTF are you doing that for"!! Sex workers are not uniquely responsible for the poor judgement or corruption of others.


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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/6/2014 5:23:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal


ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Like that's ever gonna happen! LOL

Why don't you guys just boycott sex altogether?

Blasphemy!

We could all go out and celebrate the occasion platonically


You need to read plato's republic...you will acquire a different appreciation for that word.

...with rounds of Benedictine cognac...which might lead to an orgy, perchance. (Don't forget to bring your "balm.")

Did you know that you can get it in 5 gallon pails?

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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/6/2014 11:33:22 AM   
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Movies tend to portray it in such a glamorous fashion. Pretty Woman with Julia straight down to a movie I watched a bit of with my daughter the other day starring Lisa Raye who was a college student who got into stripping for money for school. So it seems the public has a screwed up perception of the dark and dirty of prostitution. Working in a woman's shelter I found too many women didn't see any way to make that type of money. Whether they were stripping or prostituting, minimum wage jobs including being a waitress can't compete with $1000 a weekend (albeit one hell of a long weekend). Minimum wage doesn't pay the rent, cell phone, light bill, car payments and insurance, babysitters, etc.

Another brief comment. BDSM was in the DSM3 I believe as a disorder. So those reference books can't always be relied on for accurate and uptodate information. Crack cocaine was the second reason after oxycoton for acceptance into the drug rehab I worked at. I did intakes two days a week for 6 hours each day for over 9 months. I interviewed and tested at least 50 people on each of those days. On the average 10 for heroin, 20 for Oxy, 15 for crack cocaine, 1 for cocaine and 4 for other substances.

Legalizing sex workers would help to reduce the transmission of diseases.


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RE: Salvation of Prostitutes - 5/6/2014 12:30:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

Benedictine = Hazelnut ? Please explain. It always tasted like mixed herbs to me. Are you sure you have the right liqueur ?


It is mixed herbs but one of the very predominant flavors is Hazlenut.

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