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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:09:16 PM   
PeonForHer


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Thanks very much for that helpful info, Casteele. I at last have some idea of how it all works!

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:15:33 PM   
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Some photos aren't working. Web address should get everyone back to everything... spread it around I guess.

I hate to undermine what tiffany is trying to get across.. but let's face it.. we need our kink fix. I'm an addict, are you? :)


I can't help thinking that if Tiffany's partner had had any inkling that she could take down the site without his being able to do anything about it, he'd have made a point to stay on her good side. Unless he's terminally stupid, of course.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:20:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistersOrphanage

Some photos aren't working. Web address should get everyone back to everything... spread it around I guess.

I hate to undermine what tiffany is trying to get across.. but let's face it.. we need our kink fix. I'm an addict, are you? :)


I can't help thinking that if Tiffany's partner had had any inkling that she could take down the site without his being able to do anything about it, he'd have made a point to stay on her good side. Unless he's terminally stupid, of course.


Maybe he was hoping she would forget to renew the domain and he could grab it. Whois info says it was updated on 5-21. I dont know what that means or if it has any significance.


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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:22:57 PM   
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Everything seems to be hunky dory on my end, but I did send out the word for friends to save their info just in case. I'm not quite sure what's going on but I guess better safe than sorry?

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:29:48 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_4697495/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4697506

We are very busy at the moment, but this thread will help.

Thank you for your patience.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:37:37 PM   
Phydeaux


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Sadly,

Owning the domain isn't that big a deal - as the moderator and others have demonstrated.
Tiffany would do better to put the collarme site back online - and to take steps to ensure that she captured the revenue streams.

I for one will not be going to the new site.

Best to all.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:45:08 PM   
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Perhaps Tiffany will build a better mouse trap so to speak. I started in 2005 and have been on and off under different names over the years. And yes there have been some changes that I have not been happy with. Fetlife was not for me either. I hope this all gets worked out.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 12:50:16 PM   
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If the story is true it is very sad. A statement from the other side would be required to make us feel better.

But there is another issue. Tiffany needs to get support. And she needs to give up, at least now that she proved her point. If she continues, she will be the one loosing more at the end, I am afraid the legal situation is very clear here and I feel sorry for her that she is so desperate to see the ownership of the domain as anything of real value. Legally it is not.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 1:35:20 PM   
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< Message edited by Kaliko -- 5/23/2014 2:05:25 PM >

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 2:02:08 PM   
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So, this is my first post here. And the last.

I am a long time user of CM, been on and off here for a bit over 7 years now, with different profile names at different times. Found my wife here. Found a few close friends here. I love the site for its structure and simplicity. It has all the functions you need, no stupid complicated structure and it is fun. There are also lots of problems, but hey ... what is perfect these days?

So let's ANALyize what happend here from a BDSM perspective. The way I see it, we have a couple here. I have no idea if it is true, but the story from Tiffany (= sub) and her partner (= dom) makes me believe that there is more to this, at least 2002 when this was started, between them. There is no evidence that Tiffany is the sub here and the partner the dom, but it explains a few things.

We do not know if the story of Tiffany is true as we miss the other side, but there can be read a lot into this anyway.


sub Tiffany:

Her story is sad and devastating. If you imagine yourself in her situation, that's really tough and it is more than understandable that she is doing something like this to finally show her partner some of her powers.

Well, the behavior however is the one of a lost sub. Do not get me wrong, I have a lot of sympathy for her, but her behavior is not thought through well and the risk she puts herself in is huge. She may not even realize it.

She should have talked with people, tried to make herself known in other ways. Reach out to the community, setup a website somewhere else, which would get viral soon. She could try to find someone to support her to really build up a competition page and put some money (not much is needed) to prove her point legally.

Essentially, she missed the guidance and the support and the direction a proper dom could have given her. Instead, she chose to do things by herself. She is hurt. And she will get hurt more, much more. Most likely she will learn now the hard way to sink even more, to have even more problems, until she will be so at the bottom that she finally will be available for a dom to protect and save her. Sounds like a strange story? Yes, but it is the most likely scenario, because she has no legal right (and I do not mean the moral right ...) to attack her partner like this. It will backfire and it will cost her.


dom partner:

He might be surprised and shocked a bit, but well, the only thing he needs to do is to setup a new domain name, send an email once it is up and running (which can be done within a day, less than how long it takes for the DNS entries to update - so some users will never even notice anything) to everyone announcing the new domain. People might be surprised, but every registered active user will get an email. Maybe he will have to send the mail twice or three times to all members within the next week. By then Google and other search engines will be updated, every Fetlife discussion will have went through this to death and 90% of all traffic will be on the new site. And new users? They will never know what happend anyway.

Well, then he can use his trademark registration and claim the domain name legally. With a proper attorney it will cost him nothing (as she ends up paying the legal fees) and he will just get it. Once he has it, which can be done in two weeks even, he can sue her for damage and loss of business. sub Tiffany after all gave up her legal rights in this with her actions. He hates the situation now, but he feels he is in charge, he feels he has the power, he feels betryed by her, so he can kick her more. I am afraid that will happen.


oh ... and the timeline now will be this:

- sub Tiffany will get lots of sympathy for some time, maybe a couple of weeks or a bit less
- dom partner will be angry and work hard to set in place what I just mentioned
- sub Tiffany will feel strong for some days
- but dom partner will eventually win the fight
- and we (users) have the power to change that


conclusion:

We (as users) deal with two people here that have no clue about how to handle a human relationship ... and even worse, how to do it in a D/s manner. This is not acceptable. From both. sub Tiffany deserves to get spanked for this and otherwise will have to pay for it (she brought it upon yourself and might have lost control ...), she has at least the chance to get saved by talking to someone that really supports her. And dom partner? That's different: he has shown that he cannot handle it. He cannot handle the human relationship to his business partners. He cannot handle this site. He does not have the quality a dom needs. Quite simple.

So we deal with two childishly acting kids here. That's shocking, we -as users- trust them with our data, send private messages on their servers which can be saved and monitored by them and we give them money by giving them advertising traffic. BOTH do not deserve this. I have sympathy for sub Tiffany, she just is misguided, but he ... the dom partner ... he has to get his ass kicked - seriously. He needs to be shown his place. And that is very low at the bottom, no matter if what sub Tiffany told is all true or not, the facts that are evident show enough.

OK, so we might assume that dom partner is doing more or less what I mentioned above. And then he hopes that users forget it. He might even succeed with it. But well, he does not deserve it.

He has to reach out to her. He has to apologize to her. He has to apologize to her users. He has to explain things. He has to do all that or he does not deserve even one single cent from this site operation anymore and users (WE) need to boycott this site. Or the site needs to get sold to someone and both need to get money from it. Maybe less than they think it is worth, but at least it would be something like a "happy end".

OK, I realize that most likely dom partner will not admit his faults really, but it should happen.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 2:18:42 PM   
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While I don't post much on CM message boards anymore.. I do come visit and read things. Hopefully some resolution will happen. If not.. I want to let everybody know that's it's been amazing last 8 or so years here.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 2:28:17 PM   
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I want everybody here to know that all the booze in the world is not gone yet, we will have many more years of fun here.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 2:29:17 PM   
VanillaDominant


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There is a new collarme site. It's called collarspace.com. Looks like a copy and paste from the DB files.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 2:39:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: legalANALyizer

So, this is my first post here. And the last.

Promise?

quote:

There is no evidence that Tiffany is the sub here and the partner the dom

For good reason.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 2:56:36 PM   
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Collarme is now back up.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 3:14:05 PM   
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Mine never went away. I am so confused.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 3:19:14 PM   
VanillaDominant


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This fight was between two long time friends, not a couple. he lives in cali, she is now home based with family in NY.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 3:21:31 PM   
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Whoa.

No one was asking for dating advice.
She clearly means BUSINESS partner.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 3:36:26 PM   
VanillaDominant


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Well it was there..then my XP crashed, now it's gone again.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/23/2014 3:59:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: stef


quote:

ORIGINAL: legalANALyizer

So, this is my first post here. And the last.

Promise?

Yeah, that was excessively annoying. As for CM vs. CS, they're bouncing back and forth. I second shiftyw...oy

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