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Arturas -> RE: Are we dead? (8/5/2014 8:54:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Ebola isn't easy to catch. It's only spread by bodily fluid exchange. you guys can relax.

and avoid any fruit bats if you see any.


So, the ticks and mosquitoes now know to stop exchanging bodily fluids with us?

So far the only known animal that it is known to survive in besides primates is fruit bats. If it could survive in mosquitoes or ticks it would spread much more easily in Africa.


So...it is now spreading fast in African urban areas and I suppose this is because people there are kissing strangers and handling dead primates or both maybe at the same time. Yes, it must be that rather than the way malaria and rocky mountain spotted fever spreads through bug bites. Silly me.




TheHeretic -> RE: Are we dead? (8/5/2014 9:08:55 PM)

Don't be a douchebag, Arturas.




kinksterparty -> RE: Are we dead? (8/5/2014 9:12:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas
...I suppose this is because people there are kissing strangers and handling dead primates or both maybe at the same time.


Or, kissing primates and handling dead strangers. You never know.




Lucylastic -> RE: Are we dead? (8/5/2014 9:15:41 PM)

In 2012, there were about 207 million malaria cases (with an uncertainty range of 135 million to 287 million) and an estimated 627 000 malaria deaths
http://www.who.int/features/factfiles/malaria/en/

612 deaths were attributable to RMSF in the United States during 1983--1998
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5319a1.htm

Table: Chronology of previous Ebola virus disease outbreaks
2014----so far nearly 900
Year Country Ebolavirus species Cases Deaths Case fatality
2012 Democratic Republic of Congo Bundibugyo 57 29 51%
2012 Uganda Sudan 7 4 57%
2012 Uganda Sudan 24 17 71%
2011 Uganda Sudan 1 1 100%
2008 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 32 14 44%
2007 Uganda Bundibugyo 149 37 25%
2007 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 264 187 71%
2005 Congo Zaire 12 10 83%
2004 Sudan Sudan 17 7 41%
2003 (Nov-Dec) Congo Zaire 35 29 83%
2003 (Jan-Apr) Congo Zaire 143 128 90%
2001-2002 Congo Zaire 59 44 75%
2001-2002 Gabon Zaire 65 53 82%
2000 Uganda Sudan 425 224 53%
1996 South Africa (ex-Gabon) Zaire 1 1 100%
1996 (Jul-Dec) Gabon Zaire 60 45 75%
1996 (Jan-Apr) Gabon Zaire 31 21 68%
1995 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 315 254 81%
1994 Cote d'Ivoire Taï Forest 1 0 0%
1994 Gabon Zaire 52 31 60%
1979 Sudan Sudan 34 22 65%
1977 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 1 1 100%
1976 Sudan Sudan 284 151 53%
1976 Democratic Republic of Congo

a total of 1561 deaths since 1976 -2012(WHO http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/)




stef -> RE: Are we dead? (8/5/2014 10:25:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

So...it is now spreading fast in African urban areas and I suppose this is because people there are kissing strangers and handling dead primates or both maybe at the same time. Yes, it must be that rather than the way malaria and rocky mountain spotted fever spreads through bug bites. Silly me.

Stupid, not silly.




subrosaDom -> RE: Are we dead? (8/5/2014 10:51:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Ebola isn't easy to catch. It's only spread by bodily fluid exchange. you guys can relax.

and avoid any fruit bats if you see any.


So, the ticks and mosquitoes now know to stop exchanging bodily fluids with us?

So far the only known animal that it is known to survive in besides primates is fruit bats. If it could survive in mosquitoes or ticks it would spread much more easily in Africa.


So...it is now spreading fast in African urban areas and I suppose this is because people there are kissing strangers and handling dead primates or both maybe at the same time. Yes, it must be that rather than the way malaria and rocky mountain spotted fever spreads through bug bites. Silly me.


Ebola is not transmitted by bug bites. Fact.




tweakabelle -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 1:03:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Sarcasm is lost on me [:D]



So is reason, rationality, and anything else that doesn't fit your bigoted little view of the world.

Maybe ebola should go global. The fucking herd needs some serious culling anyway. Just think of how much it would decrease our carbon output...


That's an interesting way of thinking.
Who were you thinking of culling?? [sm=insane.gif]

Just as long as it's not you or your circle of friends and family. Eh?? [:D]


I'm not sure that's a particularly good question to put to TH.
Given his multiple, rampant prejudices the answer could be a very very looooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggg list.




DomKen -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 3:02:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Ebola isn't easy to catch. It's only spread by bodily fluid exchange. you guys can relax.

and avoid any fruit bats if you see any.


So, the ticks and mosquitoes now know to stop exchanging bodily fluids with us?

So far the only known animal that it is known to survive in besides primates is fruit bats. If it could survive in mosquitoes or ticks it would spread much more easily in Africa.


So...it is now spreading fast in African urban areas and I suppose this is because people there are kissing strangers and handling dead primates or both maybe at the same time. Yes, it must be that rather than the way malaria and rocky mountain spotted fever spreads through bug bites. Silly me.

The WHO's best guess is that foragers are picking up fruit dropped by the fruit bats and selling it at markets. The fruit bat saliva contains the virus.

but it isn't spreading "fast" except in paranoid stories. there have only been several hundred deaths in a very densely populated region of the planet over the course of several moths.




subrosaDom -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 3:57:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Ebola isn't easy to catch. It's only spread by bodily fluid exchange. you guys can relax.

and avoid any fruit bats if you see any.


So, the ticks and mosquitoes now know to stop exchanging bodily fluids with us?

So far the only known animal that it is known to survive in besides primates is fruit bats. If it could survive in mosquitoes or ticks it would spread much more easily in Africa.


So...it is now spreading fast in African urban areas and I suppose this is because people there are kissing strangers and handling dead primates or both maybe at the same time. Yes, it must be that rather than the way malaria and rocky mountain spotted fever spreads through bug bites. Silly me.

The WHO's best guess is that foragers are picking up fruit dropped by the fruit bats and selling it at markets. The fruit bat saliva contains the virus.

but it isn't spreading "fast" except in paranoid stories. there have only been several hundred deaths in a very densely populated region of the planet over the course of several moths.


One reason Ebola doesn't spread very fast, but not the only one, of course, is that it kills most people and while they're sick, they're isolated. Contrast that with flu sufferers still going to work, going to the store, flying, etc. -- and add in the airborne vector for the flu and the fact that almost no one dies from the flu, but they rather die from its sequelae such as pneumonia -- and you have something that spreads fast. The irony is that if we were able to reduce the virulence of Ebola and allow people to survive it with drugs, the virulence would increase, but unless it could be transmitted by an airborne vector rather than by bodily fluids, it's still unlikely to become an epidemic, let alone a pandemic.




PeonForHer -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 5:43:37 AM)

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The irony is that if we were able to reduce the virulence of Ebola and allow people to survive it with drugs, the virulence would increase, but unless it could be transmitted by an airborne vector rather than by bodily fluids, it's still unlikely to become an epidemic, let alone a pandemic.


The biggest fear about Ebola is exactly that it could mutate to become transmittable by air, apparently.




mnottertail -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 6:58:13 AM)

Emory University is hand in glove with CDC. These Americans will be the first actually treated stateside. And we better have a hands on handle on these diseases, cuz you can bet that there are folks out there trying to figure out how to use this.





thishereboi -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 9:21:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Sarcasm is lost on me [:D]



So is reason, rationality, and anything else that doesn't fit your bigoted little view of the world.

Maybe ebola should go global. The fucking herd needs some serious culling anyway. Just think of how much it would decrease our carbon output...


That's an interesting way of thinking.
Who were you thinking of culling?? [sm=insane.gif]

Just as long as it's not you or your circle of friends and family. Eh?? [:D]


I'm not sure that's a particularly good question to put to TH.
Given his multiple, rampant prejudices the answer could be a very very looooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggg list.



His multiple, rampant prejudices? Lies like this are why I ignore most of your posts.




subrosaDom -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 9:41:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The irony is that if we were able to reduce the virulence of Ebola and allow people to survive it with drugs, the virulence would increase, but unless it could be transmitted by an airborne vector rather than by bodily fluids, it's still unlikely to become an epidemic, let alone a pandemic.


The biggest fear about Ebola is exactly that it could mutate to become transmittable by air, apparently.


Yes. Mutations are always possible. While this seems unlikely, it's certainly not impossible. Fortunately it isn't the case today. What I have read, outside of scare blogs, is that this is indeed a fear -- and mutations can't all be predicted -- but certainly rather far from a reality today. In a few years, who knows?




subrosaDom -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 9:42:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Sarcasm is lost on me [:D]



So is reason, rationality, and anything else that doesn't fit your bigoted little view of the world.

Maybe ebola should go global. The fucking herd needs some serious culling anyway. Just think of how much it would decrease our carbon output...


That's an interesting way of thinking.
Who were you thinking of culling?? [sm=insane.gif]

Just as long as it's not you or your circle of friends and family. Eh?? [:D]


I'm not sure that's a particularly good question to put to TH.
Given his multiple, rampant prejudices the answer could be a very very looooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggg list.



His multiple, rampant prejudices? Lies like this are why I ignore most of your posts.


Indeed. I am unaware of an prejudices, rampant or otherwise, exhibited by TheHeretic, unless an adherence to logic is deemed to be a prejudice.




DomKen -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 3:11:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The irony is that if we were able to reduce the virulence of Ebola and allow people to survive it with drugs, the virulence would increase, but unless it could be transmitted by an airborne vector rather than by bodily fluids, it's still unlikely to become an epidemic, let alone a pandemic.


The biggest fear about Ebola is exactly that it could mutate to become transmittable by air, apparently.

Again, Ebola simply doesn't have the capacity to become transmitted in water droplets. To get that capability it would need to get some additional genes from somewhere. That would make it larger which would slow its reproduction rate and also make it more easily detected by our bodies immune system.

Ebola is a very nasty disease and there are real reasons to be concerned but basing those concerns on various movies about global pandemics wiping out humanity are not those reasons.




TheHeretic -> RE: Are we dead? (8/6/2014 6:58:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

Indeed. I am unaware of an prejudices, rampant or otherwise, exhibited by TheHeretic, unless an adherence to logic is deemed to be a prejudice.




She's just trying to distract before someone points out how much she'd like to see bodies of Jews stacked like cordwood...

I think the problem is that so many of the knee-jerk libs cannot see past their own self-centered view of the world, and then they project the attribute. In my mind, the cure for liberalism is education, but for many who think as Tweak does, the cure for ideas they disagree with is extermination.

Hell, if Mama Nature decides to cull the human herd, me and mine are as likely to be on the wrong end of that as anyone else. I'm just capable of setting self interest aside to discuss the bigger issue.




tweakabelle -> RE: Are we dead? (8/7/2014 2:55:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


His multiple, rampant prejudices? Lies like this are why I ignore most of your posts.

I know it's a big ask, but could I ask you to make the effort to expand 'most of your posts" to all of them please?




DaddySatyr -> RE: Are we dead? (8/7/2014 7:23:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

Indeed. I am unaware of an prejudices, rampant or otherwise, exhibited by TheHeretic, unless an adherence to logic is deemed to be a prejudice.




She's just trying to distract before someone points out how much she'd like to see bodies of Jews stacked like cordwood...

I think the problem is that so many of the knee-jerk libs cannot see past their own self-centered view of the world, and then they project the attribute. In my mind, the cure for liberalism is education, but for many who think as Tweak does, the cure for ideas they disagree with is extermination.

Hell, if Mama Nature decides to cull the human herd, me and mine are as likely to be on the wrong end of that as anyone else. I'm just capable of setting self interest aside to discuss the bigger issue.



This quote says it so much better than I. I wish I knew to whom the quote could be attributed.

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"Arguing with liberals...it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious." -- Anonymous









Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?




Arturas -> RE: Are we dead? (8/7/2014 2:32:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The irony is that if we were able to reduce the virulence of Ebola and allow people to survive it with drugs, the virulence would increase, but unless it could be transmitted by an airborne vector rather than by bodily fluids, it's still unlikely to become an epidemic, let alone a pandemic.


The biggest fear about Ebola is exactly that it could mutate to become transmittable by air, apparently.

Again, Ebola simply doesn't have the capacity to become transmitted in water droplets. To get that capability it would need to get some additional genes from somewhere. That would make it larger which would slow its reproduction rate and also make it more easily detected by our bodies immune system.

Ebola is a very nasty disease and there are real reasons to be concerned but basing those concerns on various movies about global pandemics wiping out humanity are not those reasons.


It has spread to a fifth country. Likely due to over kissing and handling dead primates on international flights. The incubation period is 2 to 22 days and the expansion is exponential now that it is loose. The time bombs should explode shortly but you need not panic because everything is under control.




mnottertail -> RE: Are we dead? (8/7/2014 2:35:35 PM)

So they have dead primate orgies on Senegal Air or what?




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