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DomKen -> RE: Are we dead? (8/7/2014 3:27:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: The irony is that if we were able to reduce the virulence of Ebola and allow people to survive it with drugs, the virulence would increase, but unless it could be transmitted by an airborne vector rather than by bodily fluids, it's still unlikely to become an epidemic, let alone a pandemic. The biggest fear about Ebola is exactly that it could mutate to become transmittable by air, apparently. Again, Ebola simply doesn't have the capacity to become transmitted in water droplets. To get that capability it would need to get some additional genes from somewhere. That would make it larger which would slow its reproduction rate and also make it more easily detected by our bodies immune system. Ebola is a very nasty disease and there are real reasons to be concerned but basing those concerns on various movies about global pandemics wiping out humanity are not those reasons. It has spread to a fifth country. Likely due to over kissing and handling dead primates on international flights. The incubation period is 2 to 22 days and the expansion is exponential now that it is loose. The time bombs should explode shortly but you need not panic because everything is under control. Benin is treating a Nigerian who may have Ebola. Nigeria was already one of the nations where the disease was occurring so this was a single man who traveled before showing symptoms. Your paranoia really is amazing.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Are we dead? (8/7/2014 5:01:13 PM)
Someone who, most would think, knows what they're talking about seems to think it's inevitable: CDC Chief Warns Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me?

Musicmystery -> RE: Are we dead? (8/8/2014 11:46:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: KYsissy It's not like viruses can mutate rapidly. . . . . It will more than likely be just fine, but if it isn't, things could get bad real fast. Really?? Try telling that to the 'Flu virus that mutates several times a year. That's why any 'Flu vaccination can only boost against last year's variety. Admittedly, not every virus is quite that bad, but we don't know an awful lot about Ebola either. Who is to say that it can't mutate and re-attack just like the various Bird 'Flu viruses did? We won't know until it happens. ETA: Ebola's 90% kill rate ain't to be sniffed at - that's some serious deaths to consider! Um, I believe KYs was employing deliberate irony. Slow down a tad, Keyboard Warrior.

Sanity -> RE: Are we dead? (8/8/2014 12:23:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Um, I believe KYs was employing deliberate irony. Slow down a tad, Keyboard Warrior. We'll just have to start calling you 'thunder' (I pointed that out six days ago).

BecomingV -> RE: Are we dead? (8/8/2014 10:38:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Someone who, most would think, knows what they're talking about seems to think it's inevitable: CDC Chief Warns Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? I really would have loved to have been wrong about this! Thanks for the link, DaddySatyr! If you don't usually click on links, you might want to make an exception just this once! ^^^

Arturas -> RE: Are we dead? (8/18/2014 1:52:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Don't be a douchebag, Arturas. Say what, douchebag? Today... quote: The number of dead and sickened by Ebola may 'vastly underestimate the magnitude of the outbreak,' the World Health Organization said. Tomorrow...

Arturas -> RE: Are we dead? (10/2/2014 10:01:00 PM)
...Tomorrow is here.

mnottertail -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 7:14:55 AM)
There can be only one. Highlander.

Zonie63 -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 8:03:57 AM)
Highlander was good, but the film that comes to my mind with all of this is Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman and Donald Sutherland. Kind of a so-so flick overall, but it had its moments.

Aylee -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 9:33:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail So they have dead primate orgies on Senegal Air or what? Well. . . it is difficult to get into the Mile High Club. Folks gotta do what they gotta do.

Aylee -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 9:35:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 Highlander was good, but the film that comes to my mind with all of this is Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman and Donald Sutherland. Kind of a so-so flick overall, but it had its moments. I was thinking the second Empire book by Orson Scott Card.

Aylee -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 9:37:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic In 2012, there were about 207 million malaria cases (with an uncertainty range of 135 million to 287 million) and an estimated 627 000 malaria deaths http://www.who.int/features/factfiles/malaria/en/ 612 deaths were attributable to RMSF in the United States during 1983--1998 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5319a1.htm Table: Chronology of previous Ebola virus disease outbreaks 2014----so far nearly 900 Year Country Ebolavirus species Cases Deaths Case fatality 2012 Democratic Republic of Congo Bundibugyo 57 29 51% 2012 Uganda Sudan 7 4 57% 2012 Uganda Sudan 24 17 71% 2011 Uganda Sudan 1 1 100% 2008 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 32 14 44% 2007 Uganda Bundibugyo 149 37 25% 2007 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 264 187 71% 2005 Congo Zaire 12 10 83% 2004 Sudan Sudan 17 7 41% 2003 (Nov-Dec) Congo Zaire 35 29 83% 2003 (Jan-Apr) Congo Zaire 143 128 90% 2001-2002 Congo Zaire 59 44 75% 2001-2002 Gabon Zaire 65 53 82% 2000 Uganda Sudan 425 224 53% 1996 South Africa (ex-Gabon) Zaire 1 1 100% 1996 (Jul-Dec) Gabon Zaire 60 45 75% 1996 (Jan-Apr) Gabon Zaire 31 21 68% 1995 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 315 254 81% 1994 Cote d'Ivoire Taï Forest 1 0 0% 1994 Gabon Zaire 52 31 60% 1979 Sudan Sudan 34 22 65% 1977 Democratic Republic of Congo Zaire 1 1 100% 1976 Sudan Sudan 284 151 53% 1976 Democratic Republic of Congo a total of 1561 deaths since 1976 -2012(WHO http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/) Lucy, the fear of mutation has increased because of the increased number of those contracting Ebola. When it was just a few a year, no big worries. Having a whole bunch all at once makes it (easier? more likely?) on the virus to mutate.

thompsonx -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 9:53:31 AM)
]ORIGINAL: Arturas Ebola patients are heading to or are currently in the U.S. in a plastic room to keep the deadly virus from killing at least sixty precent of the U.S. should it get out of containment. So, given jihad terrorists willingly blow themselves up to achieve their goal, isn't this their opportunity to attack the hospital and effect the spread of this virus to the general U.S. and eventually the North and South American continents? How easy we have made it for them, we actually brought the 'bomb' here ourselves and protected it with plastic. Have you been a moron long or is this a work in progress?

thompsonx -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 9:56:51 AM)
ORIGINAL: Sanity Observant Muslims would NEVER purposely catch ebola then slip through our porous southern border, that would be like flying a jetliner into a skyscraper or something Observant christians ("my hero is jesus")would never attack a soverign nation for the purpose of stealing their shit and fucking their women[8\|]

thompsonx -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 9:58:45 AM)
ORIGINAL: Arturas Silly me. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

thompsonx -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 10:00:58 AM)
ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr "Arguing with liberals...it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious." -- Anonymous Claiming you know how to play chess with a pigeon would speak directly to your intelligence.

Lucylastic -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 10:12:38 AM)
Coming from the guy who puts libs on hide faster than a hooker gives a hand job he wouldnt know how to argue with any liberal. what a marroon

DomKen -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 7:24:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Lucy, the fear of mutation has increased because of the increased number of those contracting Ebola. When it was just a few a year, no big worries. Having a whole bunch all at once makes it (easier? more likely?) on the virus to mutate. It does but not by all that much. Ebola is a very simple virus so almost any mutation makes it less effective in some way. It would take an awful lot of mutating, most of which would result in viruses that were very unfit before any Ebola strain could mutate into something substantially more dangerous than Ebola is now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_landscape

Aylee -> RE: Are we dead? (10/3/2014 8:39:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Lucy, the fear of mutation has increased because of the increased number of those contracting Ebola. When it was just a few a year, no big worries. Having a whole bunch all at once makes it (easier? more likely?) on the virus to mutate. It does but not by all that much. Ebola is a very simple virus so almost any mutation makes it less effective in some way. It would take an awful lot of mutating, most of which would result in viruses that were very unfit before any Ebola strain could mutate into something substantially more dangerous than Ebola is now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_landscape I read about virus mutations in an alternative history science fiction novel. We are all doomed!

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Are we dead? (10/4/2014 3:57:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Ebola isn't easy to catch. It's only spread by bodily fluid exchange. you guys can relax. and avoid any fruit bats if you see any. You are sooooooo (unbelievably) uneducated (as is anyone who is under the impression that it can only be transmitted by bodily fluid exchange). I'm guessing that's why those they can deduce these people have come in contact with are now quarantined for 21 days and why everyone that comes in contact with them in any fashion at all are in a Space suit.....because they fear that anyone that comes in contact with them will be doing the tongue dance with these people or having sex with them (or....on that flight....have, did or, might have). Must have been a hell of a fun flight. GAWWWWD......the lack of education on this planet is extraordinary.

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