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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

I admit I have never understood this kind of mentality.

Perhaps that is because you do not wish to.


I remember the riots in the 60's and trying to understand why they were burning their own neighborhoods when they weren't the ones they were mad at.

They were burning down businesses owned by white people not their own homes you moron.


It just didn't make any sense and never solved anything.


South central today is a far cry from what it was in the 60's it is better but it aint good.


I also think a lot of people who were involved did it because they saw a good excuse to get some free shit while claiming the high moral ground.

Not at all unlike the boston tea party or similar acts by revolutionaries/terrorists


The ones I feel sorry for are their neighbors who have to live with this kind of bullshit.


Well of course you do[8|]

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Good God... can't you even let a man vent that lost his son...what a bitch.

Indeed. That's wholly unacceptable. What the hell is wrong with you tweakabelle? I don't think any of us care what names or imprecations you use against us personally, but you do NOT EVER go after the family. Basic decency.

She didn't go after his family.
She called into question his misrepresentation of the ideology of his sons killers.....and correctly so.
As for venting about his lost son......he has my sympathy and my condolences

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Yes, unarmed intruders in the home should be shot / killed (Alzheimers's patient, black man knocking on door of house, German exchange student in garage, man wanting to see a 3rd party in the home) but when an unarmed, 18 year old, black teenager, bound for college is shot dead for no reason by the POLICE, you feel well positioned to tell the victims to suck it up and behave.

From what I've read and gathered, this incident is not an isolated one in the community -- it's just the one that pushed everyone over the edge.

It's funny that the Heretic, one of the most absolutely tone-dead posters on race relations -- starts up this thread -- just moments after claiming Obama won the 2012 election based on Bigotry.

Here's what I notice. His lead is not outrage that POLICE shoot (with multiple bullets) an unarmed black teenager, no his umbrage is directed elsewhere (at the usual target.) Without the former, you don't have the latter.

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Whichever way it goes, I'm curious what people think of the assertion that looting and burning is the proper response.

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Peon you are not from around here... the relations between the police and citizens of Ferguson was very good... was no festering animosity.

There was just no excuse for looting... there own people... many businesses were black owned. These rioters are not interested in justice... only in a flat screen TV.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Riots are not like weather. When you mistreat people over a period of time, or when you commit a heinous act -- violent emotions are often unleashed. The problem is police misconduct -- so the answer -- the solution ----- is to correct that.

Sprinkle in other surrounding things like the repeal of the Voting Rights Act, Birthers, the baseless lawsuit against a black President, Voting Rights Restrictions, growing income inequality, the shrinking middle class, and the particular racial tension of that area --- and you have a BAD MIX.

Rioting is definitely preferable to the reign of terror enacted by the KKK after the blacks were emancipated.

Bad government, bad policies, and a racist police force will not yield civil peace and tranquility.

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Would any of this have happened if the police did not shoot (multiple times) and kill an innocent, unarmed black teenager bound for college?

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In an interview on Tuesday with MSNBC, Dorian Johnson, a friend of Mr. Brown’s, gave a description of the shooting. He said that he and Mr. Brown had been walking in the street when an officer drove up and told them to get onto the sidewalk. The two stayed in the street after telling the officer that they were close to Mr. Johnson’s house. The officer, who had passed them, then backed up, almost hitting them in doing so. He then tried to open his door, which hit Mr. Brown, and when the door bounced shut, the officer reached out and grabbed Mr. Brown.

“Mike was trying to get away from being choked,” Mr. Johnson told MSNBC. At that point, he said, the officer pulled a gun and fired, striking Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown “did not reach for the officer’s weapon at all,” he said.

Mr. Johnson said that he and Mr. Brown began to run, and while he ducked behind a car, Mr. Brown kept going. After Mr. Brown was shot a second time, Mr. Johnson said, he turned to face the officer with his hands up, the officer fired several more shots, and Mr. Brown fell.

Lesley McSpadden, the mother of Michael Brown, held a drawing of the two of them after a news conference in St. Louis on Tuesday. Mr. Brown, 18, was shot and killed Saturday in a confrontation with the police in Ferguson, Mo. Credit Whitney Curtis for The New York Times
Benjamin Crump, a lawyer representing the Brown family, said Tuesday that Mr. Johnson had yet to be called in for questioning by the police and wanted to speak only to federal authorities.

“He does not trust the local law enforcement community,” Mr. Crump said. “How could he? He saw his friend executed.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/us/ferguson-police-cite-safety-risk-in-decision-not-to-name-officer-in-shooting.html?ref=us&_r=0

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Riots are not like weather. When you mistreat people over a period of time, or when you commit a heinous act -- violent emotions are often unleashed. The problem is police misconduct -- so the answer -- the solution ----- is to correct that.

Sprinkle in other surrounding things like the repeal of the Voting Rights Act, Birthers, the baseless lawsuit against a black President, Voting Rights Restrictions, growing income inequality, the shrinking middle class, and the particular racial tension of that area --- and you have a BAD MIX.

Rioting is definitely preferable to the reign of terror enacted by the KKK after the blacks were emancipated.

Bad government, bad policies, and a racist police force will not yield civil peace and tranquility.

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cloudboy if it is proven it went down this way the officer needs to be prosecuted... but there is another story as you know but as usual you decided not to tell it...Why don't we wait until all the witnesses come forward and the evidence is analyzed by all three departments and charges are brought or dropped with an explanation.

Or would you rather take up a rope and hang him without due process?

Butch

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So, what is the answer? (No reply will be forthcoming on this one...)

I don't think anyone knows the answer.

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

So, what is the answer? (No reply will be forthcoming on this one...)

I don't think anyone knows the answer.

I have some thoughts on the subject, but not the time to really get into it tonight.

As for Cloudboy, that vile shitbag wouldn't get a reply from me if he was asking for directions out of a burning building.

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Whichever way it goes, I'm curious what people think of the assertion that looting and burning is the proper response.

Of course not. But isn't that like asking, 'Was it the proper response for the dog to bite if it had been poked with a stick?' Riots just do happen, like bad weather happens. That's how people just are on occasion.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Whichever way it goes, I'm curious what people think of the assertion that looting and burning is the proper response.

Of course not. But isn't that like asking, 'Was it the proper response for the dog to bite if it had been poked with a stick?' Riots just do happen, like bad weather happens. That's how people just are on occasion.

It's a tricky one, ain't it? Look at the question from the individual standpoint, and it's one answer, then from the broader perspective and it might be another.

I'll get back around to this when I can, but here is something I'm wondering about. Would Michael Brown's death have been at the top of the Google news page (until Robin Williams took over) if they Quik-E-Mart hadn't burned?