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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:16:21 AM   
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Well thats kinda funny cuz I find the idea of a woman domming a man rediculous but a woman domming a woman fine, it seems we have the exact opposite mind sets. As everything in life people's opinions vary and everybody thinks they are right and others are wrong but BDSM is a big umbrella that contains many different kinks, and for the common good of everybody we are tolerant and united because we have a bigger problem than us tolerating each other: society tolerating us.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:17:54 AM   
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I try to be respectful of both male and female Doms regardless of their race, religion, and background.  
I think that preferring a woman over a man would be just like going to a doctor.  I prefer a woman doctor to a male doctor.  I also a Domme, but sub occassionaly in a Dungeon setting.
I have yet to meet a male Dom that I would consider sceening with.   I have no problems Doming male subs or female subs.  
I guess what I am trying to say is there is probably a male dom out there that would fit my life abilities which is Switch.  I have not met that individual yet.  Most of the ones I have talked with are wanting sexual gratification which for me is not what the life is all about. 

Respectfully,

Mistress_Jan

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:17:55 AM   
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While I don't think I need therapy,


Wether or not you need therapy, you need reading lessons. 'Ask a Mistress' forum is one down from here.

Mistake or delibrate trolling?


While you may think I need reading lessons-you definitely need help spelling "whether"!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:20:49 AM   
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GAWD DAMN!!!!

I love a good shit-slinger..........everybody give me a moment here, and I can come up with something.........

I LOVE this FUCKIN' TOWN!!!!

LOLOLOL,
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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:21:36 AM   
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OK... its official...troll alert...this person has nothing to discuss.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:23:15 AM   
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So by a Freudian slip of sorts my post appears here and it is jerks like you who reinforce my views.For the record I would never deign to want your attention!


I think thou doth protesteth too much....Ha Ha

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:27:22 AM   
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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:29:00 AM   
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Always wondered.
Troll is masculine, so is a female Troll a Trollop?

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:35:42 AM   
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Amazing the most civilized and balanced responses came from Ladyhugs and juliaoceania! While I can understand that the men here would be defensive being nasty and obnoxious is not going to enhance your manhood.I do not personally know any male dominants and clearly recognize that my attitude may stem from this fact and was hoping to be presented with other perspectives as a learning experience. Some women prefer to be dominated by men as expressed here and some men find the idea of being dominated by a woman to be risible but they expressed their opinions with calm and reason.I'm sure as this thread continues there are those who will seek to crush the little woman who dared to present  such a topic here-albeit in error.I will be shaking in my boots-not!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:37:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

Always wondered.
Troll is masculine, so is a female Troll a Trollop?


Trollup would be a compliment in my book, just as is "slut" "whore" "jezabel", or as my Daddy calls me "Strumpet".. how about trollette (sounds similar to toilet)

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:38:47 AM   
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^5 mistressrose10

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:39:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: mistressrose10

So by a Freudian slip of sorts my post appears here and it is jerks like you who reinforce my views.For the record I would never deign to want your attention!


I think thou doth protesteth too much....Ha Ha

My succinct response: Whatever!!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:47:30 AM   
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Well, you got what you wanted, we all paid attention to you. You can now crawl off to your hole and marvel at your new-found glory and we can get on with life.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:48:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistressrose10

Amazing the most civilized and balanced responses came from Ladyhugs and juliaoceania! While I can understand that the men here would be defensive being nasty and obnoxious is not going to enhance your manhood.I do not personally know any male dominants and clearly recognize that my attitude may stem from this fact and was hoping to be presented with other perspectives as a learning experience. Some women prefer to be dominated by men as expressed here and some men find the idea of being dominated by a woman to be risible but they expressed their opinions with calm and reason.I'm sure as this thread continues there are those who will seek to crush the little woman who dared to present  such a topic here-albeit in error.I will be shaking in my boots-not!


When you post something that is worth more than "you are a fucking idiot" maybe you will generate more civilized responses.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:51:24 AM   
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Amazingly enough when you start reading her profile and journal she is not doing to well with the submissive males either.

Your original title, "Why do I detest Dominant men?".  How should we know why you do something.  If you had actually wanted opinions from Dominant Males you would have asked, "Why shouldn't I detest Dominant Men?"  Your only answer is, Why the hell would any of us care?

Where is Benji when you need a leg pissed on?

K

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 10:58:59 AM   
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I strive to be tolerant but for me there is no such thing as a Dominant man.The thought of being whipped or ordered around by a man raises my hackles and makes me shudder in disgust.I work for a male and even he shows me great respect in communicating with me because I will have it no other way.Don't get me wrong, I'm not a female supremacist , some women are superior and some not. I love and respect men in general but I have been contacted by a few so called Dominant men and wondered what the hell are they thinking?I seem to have no problem with the concept of a male dominating other males,but dominating women? Nuh uh.

I've also found responses from some on this forum to be quite obnoxious.While I don't think I need therapy, it bothers me a little that I should have this prejudice for this is obviously what it is.


I would like to hear from Mistresses how they view the concept of males being dominant over females.



Seems like you've hit a nerve, doesn't it mistressrose10? 

Let me just respond in general to your post comments.

I strive to be tolerant but for me there is no such thing as a Dominant man.The thought of being whipped or ordered around by a man raises my hackles and makes me shudder in disgust.

I strive to be tolerant as well, but for me the thought of a Dominant woman in a personal relationship with me is ... painful.  The thought of being whipped or ordered around by a woman raises my hackles and makes me shudder in disgust.

I work for a male and even he shows me great respect in communicating with me because I will have it no other way.

I've had dominant women (and dominant men and submissive men and submissive women) work for me, but I always show them great respect in communicating because I will have it no other way.  To me, however, the more that someone "demands" respect, the more I preceive that they have a basic weakness of personality of some sort.  I don't give respect because they demand it.  I give them respect because I demand it of myself.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a female supremacist , some women are superior and some not.

I have a little bit of a problem squaring this sentence with your first sentence:  for me there is no such thing as a Dominant man.  While it's possible that there is a logical way to square these two statements, on the face of it, this appears to be a conflict in your reasoning.  Perhaps it is an unresolved dilemma in your personality or understanding of human nature.  I don't know.  But if there is no such thing as a dominant man ... and some women are superior (does that mean dominant in your mind?), then what is the only logical conclusion?  Please enlighten me, as I accept the possibility of less than full understanding of your beliefs.

but I have been contacted by a few so called Dominant men and wondered what the hell are they thinking?

I would suspect that no "dominant men" have contacted you at all, if - as I suspect -  the men contacting you have been interested in establishing a relationship and/or "hooking up" for a physical relationship.  I suspect that you have had contact with only hng's and dishonest men masquerading as "dominant" men.  So ... please do not judge "dominant men" on the basis of the false sample that you have had contact with.

I seem to have no problem with the concept of a male dominating other males,but dominating women? Nuh uh.

I personally do not "get" men who allow women to dominate them.  But it's their lives, and their choice, so I don't sweat it.

I've also found responses from some on this forum to be quite obnoxious.

Yup.  Lotsa negative people post here.  But some pretty smart and observant ones do as well.  You have to learn how to sift through all the BS to find the jewels.  Just like everywhere else in life.  Just like in your search for a good submissive man.

While I don't think I need therapy, it bothers me a little that I should have this prejudice for this is obviously what it is.

Good bit of self knowledge, rose, and why I do not think you deserve all the negative comments above, and I think I've actually answered the question you are asking, which is: Are there really any such thing as a dominant man?

Yes, there are.  However, there are more hngs, masqueraders and less than honest submissive men than there are dominant men.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:00:06 AM   
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I'm still trying to work out what it is - yikes!

Scary!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:00:53 AM   
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I am humbled by your eloquence-take a bow!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:01:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistressrose10

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistressrose10

So by a Freudian slip of sorts my post appears here and it is jerks like you who reinforce my views.For the record I would never deign to want your attention!


I think thou doth protesteth too much....Ha Ha

My succinct response: Whatever!!



I have read profiles of certain dommes that have posted in the forums to try to understand the hostility they seemed to exhibit against me, as a submissive woman with an opinion... then after reading their profiles I came to understand that they may feel I was a traitor, or less, because of my submissive nature. This tends to rankle me because I feel that I am superior to these very narrow minded women with a superiority complex that think that just because a submissive male will call them a Goddess and bow to them, the rest of humanity should too.

It was only after coming into contact with women like MistressGa, tallblackullfig, and Lady Hugs (just to mention a few) that I realized not all dommes are this way. I find it irksome that because there are so few sub males that this female supremacy paradigm stretches beyond a domme's submissives, and into the realm of male dominants and female submissives, as if you are superior to them. You aren't... you may find many male submissives that will agree with your worldview... but this sub is just as likely to tell you to stick it for that attitude.

I love dominant men, I adore my Daddy, and I have never encountered being treated as less than because of my submissive nature by the dominants that I choose to have discourse with...

This is just a forum, your attitude doesn't piss me off or anything.. actually I just think that you should go back to the world in which no one will challenge your views and will not take offense when you are so obviously offensive.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:05:04 AM   
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What about a woman who looks like a man topping women? Is that ok?
What about a man in drag topping a pre-op FTM transexual? Is that ok?

Some people eat ketchup on everything. I find this to be highly distasteful and think there oughta be a law. However, I dont hang out in front of the Heinz plant at quitting time and present this belief for friendly discussion.

Know what I mean?


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