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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:06:14 AM

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Well said, julia. Well said.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:06:42 AM

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All hail the drama queen...

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:07:53 AM

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Well being bi, and a Switch, I don't rightly care who dominates me. When I'm in the mood I just hope someone does.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:10:47 AM

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I will not be wasting my time responding to everyone of the tired responses here but you all invited to read my journal and arrive at the same ridiculous conclusion.Actually, I'm doing much better, thank you very much.I have little to vent about so I've not updated my journal for awhile.Your concern is so touching though! So how are YOU doing?
Why don't you all take alumbrada's advice and conclude that I'm a troll and ignore me? I asked Mistresses to respond and placed it in the wrong forum-so sue me!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:34:09 AM

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We always have a choice in life.

1. Ignore the positive and concentrate on the negative or,

2. Ignore the negative and concentrate on the positive or,

3. Take to heart the positive but consider the negative without the rancor, for any hidden wisdom it might have.

Which do you seem to do in your life?

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:34:23 AM

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Okay I just had to put in My 4 and a half cents. ( two is never enough) As a primarily dominant minded female who loves men, women, and most things with a pulse, I find the OPs original queary faulty.
If She discounts the reality of the presence of dominant men, it could just as easily be said there are no dominant women. The universe exists in a balanced state from My perspective.There are those who are ment to lead, and those who are ment to follow. Without the existence of both society cannot function.
I admit to meeting far fewer dominant men I can relate too on an intellectual or personal level, but I don't think they don't exist. I think perhaps My search process may be faulty.
I submit as a cause of the OPs negative perspective, one single word. Ego. It is difficult for two people of dominant inclination to exchange ideas without some superiority issues coloring the discussion, in My experience.
I do think that it is the mark of a highly evolved individual to be able to take the opinions of others, however accusatory, and turn them into a valid reason for introspection. I can see that this was not the case in this discussion.
This was a thinly veiled attempt for attention, negative or positive. Just like all other venues that come from the desire to communicate, one must expect the presence of those with less than noble intentions.
Tolerance is the key to an evolved soul. Without tolerance there can be no indiviuality or evolution of ideas.
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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:46:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: Flame73

Okay I just had to put in My 4 and a half cents. ( two is never enough) As a primarily dominant minded female who loves men, women, and most things with a pulse, I find the OPs original queary faulty.
If She discounts the reality of the presence of dominant men, it could just as easily be said there are no dominant women. The universe exists in a balanced state from My perspective.There are those who are ment to lead, and those who are ment to follow. Without the existence of both society cannot function.
I admit to meeting far fewer dominant men I can relate too on an intellectual or personal level, but I don't think they don't exist. I think perhaps My search process may be faulty.
I submit as a cause of the OPs negative perspective, one single word. Ego. It is difficult for two people of dominant inclination to exchange ideas without some superiority issues coloring the discussion, in My experience.
I do think that it is the mark of a highly evolved individual to be able to take the opinions of others, however accusatory, and turn them into a valid reason for introspection. I can see that this was not the case in this discussion.
This was a thinly veiled attempt for attention, negative or positive. Just like all other venues that come from the desire to communicate, one must expect the presence of those with less than noble intentions.
Tolerance is the key to an evolved soul. Without tolerance there can be no indiviuality or evolution of ideas.
That which does not kill Me, only serves to make Me stronger.

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There is none so blind as he/she who will not see! I give up explaining that I meant this question for MISTRESSES in the appropriate forum which is clearly not this one! So bring it on, heap all all the crap you can come up with to outdo each other in responding to the interloper.Already the personal and racist attacks have surfaced-how predictable! Now I shall check in now and again to see the fun as you all get your panties in a knot over a misplaced post! Let the fun begin.I shall enjoy the attention. You are ALL hereby ordered to respond to me with your smartest repartees.Don't disappoint me!Who's next?

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 11:53:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: mistressrose10

I will not be wasting my time responding to everyone of the tired responses here but you all invited to read my journal and arrive at the same ridiculous conclusion.Actually, I'm doing much better, thank you very much.I have little to vent about so I've not updated my journal for awhile.Your concern is so touching though! So how are YOU doing?
Why don't you all take alumbrada's advice and conclude that I'm a troll and ignore me? I asked Mistresses to respond and placed it in the wrong forum-so sue me!

Good!
No doubt!!
Uhmmm.... maybe not?
Not any more...
We did...
Great idea!!
Ooops, forgot to read the forum guidelines... or misplaced them with your own caveats?

Not much else is there to say..... been there done that, seeya wouldn't wannabe ya... asta la taco... bon voyage!
Now, where were we?

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:00:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: mistressrose10
I strive to be tolerant but for me there is no such thing as a Dominant man.The thought of being whipped or ordered around by a man raises my hackles and makes me shudder in disgust.I work for a male and even he shows me great respect in communicating with me because I will have it no other way.Don't get me wrong, I'm not a female supremacist , some women are superior and some not. I love and respect men in general but I have been contacted by a few so called Dominant men and wondered what the hell are they thinking?I seem to have no problem with the concept of a male dominating other males,but dominating women? Nuh uh.
I've also found responses from some on this forum to be quite obnoxious.While I don't think I need therapy, it bothers me a little that I should have this prejudice for this is obviously what it is.

I would like to hear from Mistresses how they view the concept of males being dominant over females.

I don't understand why this OP would place this thread in the "Ask a Master" section. (Baiting perhaps?) Anyway, as you would never be with a dominant man...I could never be with a woman, nor a Domme. Dominant men are the sexiest creatures alive

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:08:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sab

As it's an open board, shivvy, your point of view is welcomed. :)

This comment is only valid apparently when it agrees with you

I think the only real 'flaw' in the OP was that it was posted in the wrong forum. It's her views, and is no worse than any other question proposed on these boards regularly. I believe SirKenin posted in another thread recently, agreeing with how silly it is to get pissed off when you disagree with the words posed by another.... I believe "puppets" was the word used in that thread when reacting to (or being controlled by) such a post.

I love men.... and I have even come to know a couple of Doms who I enjoy, despite their cockiness. However, I can't get past the 'traditions' of our society where women are battered and thought of as second class citizens, when I think of male Dom/female sub relationships. I certainly don't agree with it, and the thought of it doesn't sit too well with me... but that's okay, it's not my relationship.

I listen to those who disagree with FemDom relationships.... I tolerate the Doms who contact me thinking I would be happier as a submissive... and it would be nice to see others who would have resorted to simply disagreeing, with the OP, instead of insulting her.... it only made her point that much more valid.... in my opinion.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:09:58 PM

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How unfortunate that you placed this in the wrong forum. I will give you the same answer here that I would have given you there.

I don't see dominance or submission as a gender based quality or characteristic. I see them as human qualities or characteristics. No one is superior to another not because of gender, race, creed, religion, and so on. While supremacy is fun to play at, it would make a very sad reality regardless of which sex was deemed superior.

I have the pleasure and privilege to know quite a few Doms that are pleasant, kind, and not the least bit arrogant. IMO they make up the majority of Dominant men. Some of them are even here on CM.

It's sad that you chose such harsh words to express your feelings. Regardless of where you posted this, you would have been met with resistance.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:10:27 PM

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I can identify with what you say you feel - that nauseated feeling when thinking about bending will and being ordered about - but perhaps personalizing this feeling into a generalization has more to do with your perspective based on the exposure, (or lack thereof), you've had to Dominant men.

There was a time I felt like this too, and it was for two reasons: submission did not naturally appeal to Me, and My exposure to Dominant men in the local Scene had been infrequent and somewhat unpleasant. It took Me a while to realize, after meeting people, watching scenes, and playing with a multitude of all different types of both genders, that sexuality is individual but one thing is always the same: W/we like what W/we like! Thus, while I didn't have interest per se in submitting, I met wonderful and skilled male Dominants whom I grew to have a great respect for - both as people and as Dominants. Nowadays, many of My friends within the lifestyle are male Doms - I find them generally very witty, good friends, and an invaluable sounding board for exchanging wicked ideas as well lending the male perspective on the dynamics of everything from scening to male-female relationships. To be so different, and yet the same. ;)

That said, one cannot confuse a sincere, skilled lifestyle male Dom with one of the obnoxious wankers who probably wrote to you. Please don't allow that feeling - the one of disgust when you occasionally get one of those sexually demanding and insulting e-mails - to be applied as a generalization to ALL male Dominants. Those e-mails are not indicative of a true Dom - who carries himself with dignity, intelligence and a respect for others, regardless of orientation...in other words: like a person! Someone who approaches in that manner has shown themselves for what they are and can be dismissed as a wanker; they should not distort what a 'good' Dominant has to offer, personally or within the lifestyle. Just because it is not your cup of tea doesn't mean it has less value, and I'm dismayed to see this lumped in as an unnecessary judgement on others' lifestyle and desires...as it is so unneeded in the greater scheme of things. It's not in your bedroom, after all.

Once you release the need to personalize this feeling - as if all male Dominants want to bend your will or feel superior to you - it becomes easier to, at the least, appreciate their role and skillset, and see them as three-dimensional people instead of one-dimensional, aggressive threats to your own chosen role. *grins*

I could go on here and elaborate that all this digging within Myself, meeting others, letting Myself grow, feel and experiment also likely led to My current playmate - a male switch I am very fond of - but that'd just be fuel to the fire. *chuckles* All in all, people like what they like - find what works for you, and try always to see someone as a person first and *then* their sexual identity......one does not equal the other, nor is defined by it.

Best,

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:10:53 PM

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Good boy! Who's next? I require at least a hundred responses-"gentlemen" and others, start your keyboards!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:12:32 PM

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Your bigotry is showing.

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:27:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

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ORIGINAL: Sab

As it's an open board, shivvy, your point of view is welcomed. :)

This comment is only valid apparently when it agrees with you

I think the only real 'flaw' in the OP was that it was posted in the wrong forum. It's her views, and is no worse than any other question proposed on these boards regularly. I believe SirKenin posted in another thread recently, agreeing with how silly it is to get pissed off when you disagree with the words posed by another.... I believe "puppets" was the word used in that thread when reacting to (or being controlled by) such a post.

I love men.... and I have even come to know a couple of Doms who I enjoy, despite their cockiness. However, I can't get past the 'traditions' of our society where women are battered and thought of as second class citizens, when I think of male Dom/female sub relationships. I certainly don't agree with it, and the thought of it doesn't sit too well with me... but that's okay, it's not my relationship.

I listen to those who disagree with FemDom relationships.... I tolerate the Doms who contact me thinking I would be happier as a submissive... and it would be nice to see others who would have resorted to simply disagreeing, with the OP, instead of insulting her.... it only made her point that much more valid.... in my opinion.

Thank you for your sane response.It is natural that I would be met with resistance here as would a male posing the opposite question on the Ask A Mistress forum.I was gratified to see that there were a few responses from the men an women who disagreed and expounded on why including their own feelings about female Dommes. These I took seriously as well as the wisdom of the Mistresses who responded.After trying in vain to prove I was no troll however, the claws came out.If the Obnoxious want to continue slinging mud here they now have my permission to do so.Let's hope they see the irony of it!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:30:38 PM

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Good boy! Who's next? I require at least a hundred responses-"gentlemen" and others, start your keyboards!

Pathetic attempt at flattering yourself babygirl, lol!
With a mind like your's though anything is possible eh?

Other readers also pointed out that even had you somehow managed to post your swill in the Ask A Mistress forum you would have received the same replies. Sometime in between rants, READ the message board guidelines and don't try to make them up as you attempt to steal second base betwen innings... duh?

Your last two posts were made as I replied to yet another of your previous posts... slow down and play fair if you want to play...

... otherwise get out the twinkies and diet pepsi, and throw yourself yet another pity party! good girl!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:33:53 PM

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Keep 'em coming ,nasty boy.I love an obedient man!

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RE: Why do I detest Dominant men? - 7/11/2006 12:42:07 PM

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