RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare?

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BenevolentM -> RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare? (9/9/2014 1:33:06 PM)
If the subsidy were 50 50 it would make more sense, but it isn't. The government is picking up like 80 90 percent of the cost of the insurance. I didn't run the numbers, but I know enough to feel reasonably confident that it is a lot more than 50 percent. If you can pick up 80 to 90 percent of the cost, you can pick up 100 percent of it unless it is the principle of it, but you are asking the poor to pick up the remaining 10 to 20 percent which is like demanding blood.

BenevolentM -> RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare? (9/9/2014 1:52:40 PM)
Concerning whether or not it was originally a Republican plan, it does not mean all Republicans agreed on such a course. Notice please the Republican party didn't back it. There is evidence that elements of the Republican party tested the waters, however, but didn't run with it in a big way. Only the Democrats did. The plan could also be construed as Democrat bait. I figure that if you are going to do it, it is best to get the job done right. Why not really screw the American public by declaring it the equivalent of automobile insurance. Aren't the Republicans behind automobile insurance? That will not be the law of the land because it would produce riots. Who is hurt most by mandatory automobile insurance? The poor. Perhaps it would be better to invest the money into replacing the automobile. We are already on the verge of producing autonomous automobiles. That could save a lot of money, more than solar could at least in the short run. Solar is a long term bet. Notice please how everyone steered clear of mandatory automobile insurance when discussing the future of healthcare. It is a place that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats want to go. Let's talk financial responsibility people. Let's get the police to track down all those people who aren't applying for ObamaCare and put them into concentration camps. The Democrats created the open door for a Republican administration to step in later to go where no Democrat would be willing to go. Republicans fear Republicans. That is something the Democrats don't seem to get.

shiftyw -> RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare? (9/9/2014 3:55:49 PM)
This is the stupidest place for this- doesn't this really belong in P&R?

BenevolentM -> RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare? (9/11/2014 12:03:36 AM)
quote: https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/modified-adjusted-gross-income-magi/ Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) The figure used to determine eligibility for lower costs in the Marketplace and for Medicaid and CHIP. Generally, modified adjusted gross income is your adjusted gross income plus any tax-exempt Social Security, interest, or foreign income you have.

MrRodgers -> RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare? (9/11/2014 12:33:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM quote: https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/modified-adjusted-gross-income-magi/ Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) The figure used to determine eligibility for lower costs in the Marketplace and for Medicaid and CHIP. Generally, modified adjusted gross income is your adjusted gross income plus any tax-exempt Social Security, interest, or foreign income you have. Look, I think you have this worded wrong. Once a person becomes 65, they are required by law to...sign up for Medicare. After that, I wouldn't know about income vs benefits...if any at all. I don't think there are any.

BenevolentM -> RE: How much money can someone make and still be eligible for Medicare under ObamaCare? (9/14/2014 2:22:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Look, I think you have this worded wrong. Once a person becomes 65, they are required by law to...sign up for Medicare. After that, I wouldn't know about income vs benefits...if any at all. I don't think there are any. I looked into whether or not I could edit the title of this thread to change the word Medicare to Medicaid, but I found no way to do it. I did come across something that I thought to post, but didn't that explained how Medicare and Medicaid are administered by the same government agency. You are in effect receiving Medicare if you fall below a certain financial threshold provided your state has agreed to Medicaid expansion. One of the problems is it is unclear what the financial threshold is. It is possible to get a table of numbers, but they appear to be trying their best to make ObamaCare under Medicaid unobtainium. If their Silver Plan was as expensive as their Bronze Plan it would make better sense. As a tax ObamaCare is as I pointed out earlier is less tolerable than the income tax and there are people who feel the income tax is intolerable. I am not one of them, but that is not the point. The income tax is in many respects fair and thoughtful. I do not see the same fairness and thoughtfulness in ObamaCare.

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