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All Things Ebola - 10/13/2014 7:15:11 PM   
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I am posting this to give notice in this forum there is a thread about another thread in the Religion and Politics forum on Ebola which useful information on the topic of Ebola. There are two at present.

Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged countries?
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4739687/tm.htm

Ebola transmission
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4740688/tm.htm

The first one is getting considerably more attention. The forum moderator may want to move the second one to this forum.

I am considering reproducing some of my posts there here because the doctors in the news are beginning to talk about what I brought up, infectious dose. An unusually low infectious dose is needed to catch Ebola. This is something people to know about in order to stay safe.

The matter at hand should be of interest to this community in that the disease is like AIDS, but worse. Hopefully, it won't become a problem for those in the Western or Eastern world, but if it does it may be helpful to know something about this monster that is attempting to crawl up the mountain.
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RE: All Things Ebola - 10/13/2014 7:25:22 PM   
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I am cross posting this to "Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged countries?" http://www.collarchat.com/m_4739687/tm.htm Medical data here, political argument there.

In the Health and Safety forum I started a the "All Things Ebola" thread http://www.collarchat.com/m_4741065/tm.htm. I am proposing to tie this thread together with that one and run them in parallel. The feisty political dialog here and the more academic type medical data there. While arguing various points no doubt people will bring up information much as I have that should be reproduced there and vice versa. You may find something there helpful to build a credible argument here.

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RE: All Things Ebola - 10/13/2014 7:49:58 PM   
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Why does infectious dose matter? One person in particular tried to argue that it is of no importance. I am not an expert, but I try not to be a dummy either. As I pointed out in the other thread Ebola is different from most infectious agents doctors and hospital staff are accustomed to coping with. The unusually low infectious dose is sufficient to explain the problems they have encountered. Typically small discretions are of no consequence because the infectious dose is high. Suppose you are treating people with influenza A variant. The infectious dose for influenza A variant is greater than 790 organisms http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/influenza-a-eng.php. With Ebola it is 10 http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php. You have to receive a dose that is at least 79 times greater to catch the flu than you do with Ebola. The margin of error is considerably smaller.

In a typical day you may come into contact with say 200 flu organisms despite the precautions you have taken. I'm just pulling a number out of a hat to help illustrate my point. 200 isn't enough to make you sick. The precautions you took didn't spare you from the disease; it kept you from receiving a dose sufficient to get you sick. But what if the dose is less than 200? You would go merrily go about your business thinking everything is fine when it isn't. There are all sorts of vulnerabilities, ways for the disease to get to you, that you never really paid much attention to. With this disease, a caregiver has to be on top of their game, a star player. You and your team seriously have to have your act together. You are going to have to take serious pride in getting it right because if you die who is going to replace you? Society needs you and your expertise.

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RE: All Things Ebola - 10/13/2014 7:54:14 PM   
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We do not need another Ebola thread at this time. Between the other two, all things Ebola are covered.

Thank you

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