BamaD
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ORIGINAL: crazyml
God, how stupid do you have to be to make this post?
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
God, how stupid do you have to be to make this post.
Nowhere did I advocate toppling the government as it now stands.
How stupid do you have to be to infer that have claimed that you advocate toppling the government as it now stands?
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Yes I know you can change the government by voting (we went a long way in November toward doing just that) .
Where you capable of following the conversation you would know that no one would advocate overthrow unless the checks and balances and the rights of the people are cast away.
I know you're all huffy and puffy, munchkin, but getting all hissy with me over things you fabricate then claim I said just makes you look foolish.
Where have I claimed that people would advocate ovethrow in any other circumstance than tyranny.
The really difficult question I was asking, and I know that you may need a grown up person to help you to parse this gnarly concept was that the likelihood of armed insurrection being necessary (or effective) was next to nil.
I know you can't understand something as complex, but maybe you can get some help? Or perhaps you should sit nicely and watch while the grown-ups talk instead of yapping like a fool?
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She was talking original intent and like most of you on the left argued that since you don't think a revolt could succeed it didn't mean what it meant.
Even if she were correct, and she knows nothing of fighting, it would not affect the original intent. Can you get your head around that?
I am pretty certain that you know fuck all about fighting too. I don't make any claim to speak for the left, and if you think that I don't believe that the original intent of the 2nd was to enable citizens to rise up against tyranny, the you're every bit as stupid as I believe you to be. Perhaps you could point out where you believe I made that claim. It would be a useful exercise, since (given your previous confusion where you thought my saying something was "a shame" meant I was advocating it) I know you have a few problems with comprehension, perhaps I can help you improve your english?
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Remember in 1776 we didn't have a snowballs chance either.
Are you aware that in the intervening 200+ years a few things have change?
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Do you even understand what the word tyrannical means?
Yes thanks.
How are you getting on with your comprehension of "Law" and "Shame"?
Where on earth did I say you were advocating toppling any government? Where did I say that the 2nd was intended to help you topple the government as it now stands?
I'm ever so glad you've outlined the things that would make it justifiable to topple a government, now... halfwit... what is the likelihood that you would have to resort to armed insurrection in order to topple a government that took the checks and balances away?
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It's unlikely. As long as we keep the 2nd Amendment we probably won't need it for what it was intended.
When you tell me that all we have to do to change government is vote you are implying that I prefer insurrection to voting, that I want to go straight to violence. That is the problem with you, you make statement like that based on a falsehood and then pretend that's not what you said. She was still trying to prove that today's situation somehow affected original intent. When is the last time I said you should change your weapons laws? Return the favor.
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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine
People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.
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