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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/7/2006 4:27:44 AM

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Dont misinterpretate what i say.
Im not homophobic,people are entitled to live there lives how they wish as long as there not hurting anyone.

But some of you experts tell me,is it that many gay guys are contracting hiv/aids through anal sex or is it there just eating shit.

you experts tell me.

Anal sex is a lot more dangerous than eating scat.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/7/2006 7:16:12 AM

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Anal sex is a lot more dangerous than eating scat.

I Screwed a Transexual one night She was nice looking,
I knew Her from one of the clubs in Vegas.
But it wasn't untill I read Her full Profile
that I found out that She had Aids!!

I did not get Aids,
Thanks be to God. But Why Risk aything like that?

It's like the Mistress who always liked to have Her
Slave lick, eat and Swallow Her period!
Sick for some?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/7/2006 9:24:04 AM

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you experts tell me.

Anal sex is a lot more dangerous than eating scat.

Coprophagia is rarer than anal sex as a behavior. It is not safer. For AIDS to get into the body, there needs to be a path from the infected material to the blood stream. With anal sex this is usually via microtears in the penis. With coprophagia, it's from compromised gums througth brushing, eating food with sharp edges or gum disease. One advantage that anal sex has it that condoms provide excellent protection. There is no equivalent protection for coprophagia.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/7/2006 9:32:06 AM

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Dont misinterpretate what i say.
Im not homophobic,people are entitled to live there lives how they wish as long as there not hurting anyone.

But some of you experts tell me,is it that many gay guys are contracting hiv/aids through anal sex or is it there just eating shit.

you experts tell me.

If anyone does "misinterpretate" what you're saying, it's probably due to your unique writing style.

Patheticslave made an erroneous statement and I corrected it. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sorry of you can't deal with people stating that the act which you seem to base your purpose in life around could possibly cause you health issues, and serious ones at that. What you might have missed in your knee jerk response is that while facts might be pointed out, I'm not making any judgements about the act itself. If you want to chow down on feces, Bon Appétit!

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Anal sex is a lot more dangerous than eating scat.

John already handled this one.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/8/2006 2:25:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: fartsniffer
you experts tell me.

Anal sex is a lot more dangerous than eating scat.

Coprophagia is rarer than anal sex as a behavior. It is not safer. For AIDS to get into the body, there needs to be a path from the infected material to the blood stream. With anal sex this is usually via microtears in the penis. With coprophagia, it's from compromised gums througth brushing, eating food with sharp edges or gum disease. One advantage that anal sex has it that condoms provide excellent protection. There is no equivalent protection for coprophagia.

I can honestly say i have never been ill from eating scat.
Yet ive had gum infections before due to maybe cutting a gum while brushing my teeth,and something ive eaten has caused an infection.

I found when i first eaten shit it made me feel a bit queesy,but that i think was pyscological,the thought of what ide just done,etc

Im sure there will be someone that will get seriously ill from eating scat,just like the small minoritys that get ill from eating other things,or getting seriously ill from common illness.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/8/2006 2:35:50 AM

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If you want to chow down on feces, Bon Appétit!
[quote= fartsniffer]
I thought you was offering there.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/8/2006 5:38:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: fartsniffer

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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ORIGINAL: fartsniffer
you experts tell me.

Anal sex is a lot more dangerous than eating scat.

Coprophagia is rarer than anal sex as a behavior. It is not safer. For AIDS to get into the body, there needs to be a path from the infected material to the blood stream. With anal sex this is usually via microtears in the penis. With coprophagia, it's from compromised gums througth brushing, eating food with sharp edges or gum disease. One advantage that anal sex has it that condoms provide excellent protection. There is no equivalent protection for coprophagia.

I can honestly say i have never been ill from eating scat.
Yet ive had gum infections before due to maybe cutting a gum while brushing my teeth,and something ive eaten has caused an infection.

I found when i first eaten shit it made me feel a bit queesy,but that i think was pyscological,the thought of what ide just done,etc

Im sure there will be someone that will get seriously ill from eating scat,just like the small minoritys that get ill from eating other things,or getting seriously ill from common illness.

Now, that statement is a lot more accurate than your previous comparison of coprophagia vs anal sex.

Of course, person experience doesn't always reflect an external reality. When my dad was in England during the war, his ship was tied up to a temporary pier awaiting D day. There was a town near by so each night he'd slip away and walk cross country to the town for a few drinks. One night he fell asleep and didn't wake up until it was light. While he was hurrying back, he came across a line of signs he hadn't seen in the dark. Each one said "Danger! Minefield"

He'd been casually walking through a minefield each night.

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Completely off topic (was: human toilet) - 5/8/2006 9:22:57 AM

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if a snake bites before it is charmed there is no profit for the charmer~

Heh. An interestingly relevant quote.

Technically snakes aren't "charmed" in the sense that most people think they are. You can induce a vasovagal response ("hypnosis") in crocodilians, lizards and birds via specific physical manipulations, but the best you can do with a snake is behavior modification/manipulation. Like all snakes, cobras are technically deaf (no external ears) and cannot hear a snake charmer's flute. The response is visual, to the "ghara" or round bulbous protrusion of the traditional Indian musical instrument. Anything with sufficient surface area that vaguely mimicks a hood works just as well to fixate their attention. A baseball cap works fine. And no, don't try to test this bit of science at home.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/24/2006 2:23:21 PM

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Hi.. I read thru this thread out of sheer curiosity about how someone could want to do this act...
It has been interesting but sometimes baffling on opposing views.   I don't want to
summarize but basically a monogamous relationship is the only 'reasonably safe' way
to do this and to be aware what you eat and to be in general good health. And you may
still get sick. One comment from someone dying from a related sickness sounds rather
scary.. Surely it would not be common or this practice would not be as practiced as much.

Most of the thread deals with one partner 'sharing' themselves with their sub, which I fully
understand the feelings behind it, as I like watersports, but what about the act of the
sub eating their own feces?   For instance I think of 'ass to mouth'. How dangerous
is that type of act for the subbie? And, I just had a thought, would it be any safer
when enemas are done regularly?   Is there a way of mitigating the dangers for those
that like to 'feed their sub' by cleansing/fasting regularly?   I know that parasites can be
killed often by a number of means...All the best means in the Alternative health area.

(I would say 'cheers' but, considering the topic ...........)

Be safe
WilliamT

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/24/2006 11:14:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: knees2you
if a snake bites before it is charmed there is no profit for the charmer~

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Heh. An interestingly relevant quote.

Technically snakes aren't "charmed" in the sense that most people think they are. You can induce a vasovagal response ("hypnosis") in crocodilians, lizards and birds via specific physical manipulations, but the best you can do with a snake is behavior modification/manipulation. Like all snakes, cobras are technically deaf (no external ears) and cannot hear a snake charmer's flute. The response is visual, to the "ghara" or round bulbous protrusion of the traditional Indian musical instrument. Anything with sufficient surface area that vaguely mimicks a hood works just as well to fixate their attention. A baseball cap works fine. And no, don't try to test this bit of science at home.

- Naja k. charmer

Yes and some snake Charmers do get bit.
Maybe like a Slave...

BLOW ME A KISS Misty

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/25/2006 11:47:43 AM

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Scat no thanks,not something I do.Not something I think is safe to do.Even if your with only one person we all harbor bacteria naturally,some bacteria that doesnt bother us can effect someone in a bad way.I would think that even with enemas and eating certain things to "cleanse" before a sitting down to a snack,you would be taking a risk of disease and illness.But hey thats your thing go for it.

Pee play is fun,but I dont let everyone ingest it.Maybe a small sip to a special few.Other than that its on their body,which is free from cuts and scratches.I get the full array of tests every year and know I'm clean...but why take chances with someones life. Safe is the first word in the BDSM credo afterall.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/25/2006 10:52:29 PM

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I get the full array of tests every year and know I'm clean...but why take chances with someones life. Safe is the first word in the BDSM credo afterall.

Yes safety should be Numeral Uno!

I Don't like a profile that say's Swalling a
Master or Mistresses fluids
is a Privilage and that
The Domms fluids need to be inside the
Slave where they belong.
Their saying their replacing your fluids
with Theirs.
Without any regard of health "what so ever!"

BLOW ME A KISS Misty

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/27/2006 2:11:46 AM

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Well, if this were incredibly dangerous the guys featured in Yapoo (hardcore japan fetish videos) would have been dead long ago. The same few guys are featured eating very large portions of scat from many women... Sure there's a risk involved, but for that have the fetish, are healthy, and pursue it in moderation, the margin is probably in their favor.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/30/2006 10:09:20 PM

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I train human toilets, both golden and brown . Each sub/slave knows the limits they are willing to go to, as should you.
I have never had a problem with any of my sub/slaves getting sick because I am healthy. One can only pass a disease or
sickness if they are sick. It is about total submission, the ultimate way to serve beneath a Goddess or Mistress!

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 2:21:33 AM

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I train human toilets, both golden and brown . Each sub/slave knows the limits they are willing to go to, as should you.
I have never had a problem with any of my sub/slaves getting sick because I am healthy. One can only pass a disease or
sickness if they are sick. It is about total submission, the ultimate way to serve beneath a Goddess or Mistress!

With all due respect, your statement highlighted in red is not true.

Urine is generally sterile upon excretion, unless the person has an infection or is taking certain medications (e.g., antibiotics).

Feces, on the other hand, is never sterile. It is invariably toxic regardless of health. The toxicity of your feces is not necessarily related to your health. You are healthy precisely because your body is successfully able to process toxins and excrete them in your feces. Ingesting feces of a healthy person can and does cause many serious illnesses. Consuming one's own feces could have potentially harmful consequences, as the bowel bacteria are not necessarily safe to ingest. Risks include viral hepatitis and parasitic intestinal infections such as giardiasis, cryptosporidiosis, shigellosis, amebiasis and campylobacter. Anyone who regularly ingests feces and has not been ill has just been lucky to date. The odds are very high that such person will contract a serious illness that may irreversibly damage vital organs such as the liver and kidneys. I am not trying to discourage anyone from doing their thing, but ignorance on this subject is not bliss. People will still become human toilets, but the decision should be made with benefit of the objective facts, not wishful thinking. We all take risks, but we should at least know the risks we are taking.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 4:14:29 AM

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I have never had a problem with any of my sub/slaves getting sick because I am healthy. One can only pass a disease or
sickness if they are sick.

There is such a thing as asymptomatic infection. Think Typhoid Mary.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 4:35:53 AM

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I honestly am not opposed to being a Full Human Toilet. I've experimented with it a few times, and found the psychological/mental gratification wonderful. I suppose that is primarily the *main* reason behind serving as a toilet. However, this is just speculation on my part.

I can also say with a good amount of certainty, that if someone participates in ingesting urine to make very sure that before-hand, or afterward, they drink a fair amount of water. (Not sure how much though). In essence, urine contains ammonia compounds which are safe to the body, and these compounds, if I am not mistaken make it sterile. However, the ammonia acts also to somehow dehydrate the body in some cases. This is why it really *is not* reccommended to drink your own urine if you were stranded in the desert or something like that. (Not that anyone plans on taking a trip to the Saharra and sitting for a few weeks). I don't know if this 'dehydration' factor is dangerous under normal circumstances, but- just something to consider.

I suppose the main health issues with scat- and many of them have been touched on is of course transmit of disease. The human body does have a somewhat lacking ability to process/break down many harmful substances that other 'lower-life forms' can- simply because we do not have the *need* to. Adversely, our immune systems have developed some sort of tolerance to many of the lesser harmful effects. I would reccomend making sure that all your shots for Hepatitis (in all its form) are up to date- and to get regular physical check-ups.

IMO, being a full human toilet *can* be safe, if the proper precautions are taken. Just my lil schpeel. ^_^

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 5:05:03 AM

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. I would reccomend making sure that all your shots for Hepatitis (in all its form) are up to date

There are shots for all forms of hepatitis? Are there a new treatments? I understood that several forms of hepatitis have no immunization protocols.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 5:37:56 AM

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I was speaking of the Hepatitis shots that you could get. I know for a fact there are immunizations for:

A---
How is hepatitis A treated?
There is no special treatment for people with hepatitis A. However, a shot called immune globulin (IG) can be given to household members, sexual partners, and other close contacts of a person who is contagious for hepatitis A. IG is approximately 90% effective in either preventing of lessening the effects of hepatitis A when given within 14 days of exposure to the virus. IG can also be given to control outbreaks of hepatitis A, especially in institutional setting such as hospitals, daycare facilities, and correctional facilities.
How long is an infected person contagious to others?
The contagious period begins one to two weeks before the symptoms start and lasts seven to ten days following the onset of dark urine or jaundice. If no dark urine or jaundice appears, then a person is still considered contagious for at least two weeks after onset on the first symptoms.

B---

How is hepatitis B treated?
There are no specific treatments for the acute symptoms of viral hepatitis B. Doctors recommend bed rest, preventing dehydration, a healthy diet, and avoidance of alcoholic beverages.
Most people with mild to severe acute hepatitis begin to feel better in two to three weeks and recover completely with four to eight weeks. However, about ten percent of infected people may become chronic carriers of the hepatitis B virus. Most carriers remain infectious for life and can infect others with the virus. Carriers are also at a much higher risk of developing cirrhosis of the liver or liver cancer.
How can hepatitis B be prevented?
A vaccine to prevent hepatitis B is available. It is safe and effective. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that all newborns be vaccinated against the hepatitis B virus before leaving the hospital. This is an effort to eliminate chronic carriers. Hepatitis B vaccination series is also required for school entry in Utah.

(There is no vaccine for C)

D---

How can hepatitis D be prevented?
Because hepatitis D virus cannot be transmitted in the absence of hepatitis B infection, hepatitis B immunization protects against hepatitis D infection. Other effective means of preventing hepatitis D are to avoid contact with the blood and body fluids, including semen and vaginal secretions, of infected individuals.

I know that it says to prevent it, that you should stay away from such fluids as are present in scat/urine play-- but, there are also vaccines for them. (except for C)
((all info was taken from http://www.immunize-utah.org/provider/hepatitis/default.htm ))

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 6:58:28 AM

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There is such a thing as asymptomatic infection. Think Typhoid Mary.

I wish there were a way to show some sort of probability of this after taking reasonable precautions. Sure, there will always be a risk involved as there is with everything in life, but after a point don’t they become so slim that they are no longer applicable? If you, for example, are your partner’s only sexual partner, you are both very healthy, and enjoy being used as a HT on a rare occasion, surely the probability of getting seriously ill is low enough to be a silly concern.

I don’t believe anyone here is asserting people are safe doing this sort of activity with just anyone they meet on the street—just as it is not safe exchanging any sort of bodily fluid with random strangers.

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