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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 7:22:44 AM

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Consuming one's own feces could have potentially harmful consequences, as the bowel bacteria are not necessarily safe to ingest.

Really? Out of curiosity, what are the risks involved in eating your own?

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Risks include viral hepatitis and parasitic intestinal infections such as giardiasis, cryptosporidiosis, shigellosis, amebiasis and campylobacter.

This assumes (again) that your partner has one of these diseases.

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Anyone who regularly ingests feces and has not been ill has just been lucky to date. The odds are very high that such person will contract a serious illness that may irreversibly damage vital organs such as the liver and kidneys.

What information are you using to make claims about odds?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 10:12:38 PM

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Just a curiosity question (I've read through all this, really interesting read BTW); How does someone 'train' for this?

Basically, someone posted that the hardest part was learning not to vomit...how's that happen?

Is it sort of like with semen? How (usually) a person needs time to enjoy it, 'acquired taste' syndrome, overcoming the gag reflex, etc. To those who've done it and enjoy it, would you say this is the same process with scat play?

Edited to add:
Not just semen, that was a personal bias lol I had to adjust to semen, but was fine with the tast of women from the start. I'm sure there are many though who go through the acquired taste syndrom with women's fluids also, sorry to sound judgemental

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 10:18:27 PM

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Is it sort of like with semen? How (usually) a person needs time to enjoy it, 'acquired taste' syndrome, overcoming the gag reflex, etc. To those who've done it and enjoy it, would you say this is the same process with scat play? Timeoutgurlie

Semen takes a little while to get use to, but then it
becomes natural. unless your swalling a Hung 10 inches
or more!

Scat play is harder to swallow because of the Smell
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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 10:20:12 PM

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Training with noseplugs maybe?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 5/31/2006 11:02:00 PM

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Training with nose plugs?
Only if the Dom would allow it.?

Make sure Your clean of diseases
and they are too!

Always, Ant.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 12:06:33 AM

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slaveofbeauty,

I understand that the increased risks include viral hepatitis and parasitic intestinal infections such as giardiasis, cryptosporidiosis, shigellosis, amebiasis and campylobacter.

Medicine is not my profession, but I have discussed this very question numerous times with friends who are doctors.

Let me just clarify where you are coming from: do you contend that ingesting substantial amounts of a healthy person's feces on a frequent basis does not increase the odds of contracting a serious illness? Is that your position?

If you want the most convincing proof, ask any doctor - ask anyone and everyone you ever met who is licensed to practice medicine - the following question: if someone ingests substantial amounts of a healthy person's feces on a frequent basis, will that increase, decrease or not affect that persons's odds of contracting a serious illness?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 2:45:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: malakas
Consuming one's own feces could have potentially harmful consequences, as the bowel bacteria are not necessarily safe to ingest.

Really? Out of curiosity, what are the risks involved in eating your own?

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ORIGINAL: malakas
Risks include viral hepatitis and parasitic intestinal infections such as giardiasis, cryptosporidiosis, shigellosis, amebiasis and campylobacter.

This assumes (again) that your partner has one of these diseases.

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ORIGINAL: malakas
Anyone who regularly ingests feces and has not been ill has just been lucky to date. The odds are very high that such person will contract a serious illness that may irreversibly damage vital organs such as the liver and kidneys.

What information are you using to make claims about odds?

I understand that the increased risks include viral hepatitis and parasitic intestinal infections such as giardiasis, cryptosporidiosis, shigellosis, amebiasis and campylobacter.

Medicine is not my profession, but I have discussed this subject more than once with friends who are doctors.

Let me just clarify where you are coming from: do you contend that ingesting substantial amounts of a healthy person's feces on a frequent basis does not increase the odds of contracting a serious illness? Is that your position?

If you want the most convincing proof, ask any doctor - ask anyone and everyone you ever met who is licensed to practice medicine - the following question: if someone ingests substantial amounts of a healthy person's feces on a frequent basis, will that increase, decrease or not affect that persons's odds of contracting a serious illness?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 7:34:43 AM

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Just a curiosity question (I've read through all this, really interesting read BTW); How does someone 'train' for this?

I have never ingested feces, so I can’t comment on that part of it, but I have recently begun drinking my mistress’s pee.

Personally, I found the flavor of this to be tolerable enough to suppress my gag reflex, so this has not been an issue for me. However, my system does have a cutoff point where I will throw up if I go beyond it.

Also, I find it 100 times easier to tolerate if my mistress has been drinking a lot of water. If she’s been drinking alcohol too, the flavor of the alcohol will sometimes completely overpower the taist of the urin completely making it very easy to drink.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 9:26:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie
Just a curiosity question (I've read through all this, really interesting read BTW); How does someone 'train' for this?

I have never ingested feces, so I can’t comment on that part of it, but I have recently begun drinking my mistress’s pee.

Personally, I found the flavor of this to be tolerable enough to suppress my gag reflex, so this has not been an issue for me. However, my system does have a cutoff point where I will throw up if I go beyond it.

Also, I find it 100 times easier to tolerate if my mistress has been drinking a lot of water. If she’s been drinking alcohol too, the flavor of the alcohol will sometimes completely overpower the taist of the urin completely making it very easy to drink.

Thanks. Now you've got me wondering if people who are into scat start with urine first? Sounds like it may be 'easier' and sort of get them ready for the next step.

I find this all fascinating for some reason, even though I can't see myself ever really engaging in that part of play. I enjoy being peed on...maybe that's where it all starts

lol

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 9:42:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

Thanks. Now you've got me wondering if people who are into scat start with urine first? Sounds like it may be 'easier' and sort of get them ready for the next step.

Oh great, now the government is going to get involved because watersports is going to be classified as a 'gateway' kink.

~stef

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 1:03:19 PM

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If you want the most convincing proof, ask any doctor - ask anyone and everyone you ever met who is licensed to practice medicine - the following question: if someone ingests substantial amounts of a healthy person's feces on a frequent basis, will that increase, decrease or not affect that persons's odds of contracting a serious illness?

Let me put it another way... When getting into a car and driving to work you are putting yourself at a risk too.... If illiminating risk was the goal we'd all be standing in fields making like the wind right now wouldn't we? What I'm arguing is that I don't think the risk is as high as people are asserting (seemingly out of ignorance).

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 1:58:16 PM

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That's not exactly a valid comparison. People have to go to work, they don't have to eat shit. If you want to ingest fecal mater, knock yourself out, but you shouldn't get so defensive just because people point out the possibile increased health risk. Is there an increased risk? Almost certainly. How high is the risk? Until someone convinces the NIH to do a long term study of coprohagia, you're not likely to get any solid numbers.

Bon Appétit!

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 2:45:52 PM

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That's not exactly a valid comparison. People have to go to work, they don't have to eat shit.

Point well taken - the "getting into a car" was an exaggerated analogy.

If you have sever food allergies, a weak immune system, or are ingesting fecal mater from someone who has a disease which can be transmitted through bodily waste, than sure, you have a high risk of getting sick. If you can confidently say that all the previous conditions are false, than what is the risk of doing this occasionally? I am not saying that I personally would like to do it... just that I believe it can be a relatively safe activity for people who enjoy it as long as you take precautions.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/1/2006 5:42:03 PM

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Thanks. Now you've got me wondering if people who are into scat start with urine first? Sounds like it may be 'easier' and sort of get them ready for the next step.

Oh great, now the government is going to get involved because watersports is going to be classified as a 'gateway' kink.

~stef

lol ... I mean ... sorry

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/2/2006 7:15:32 AM

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Oh great, now the government is going to get involved because watersports is going to be classified as a 'gateway' kink.

~stef

Lets hope not.

I don't like a Domm who want's short term
or long term
Watersports and Scat play without mentioning
safety first, in their Profile. Meaning there is no
mention of it at all.

Does anyone agree?

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/2/2006 11:42:07 AM

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I don't like a Domm who want's short term
or long term
Watersports and Scat play without mentioning
safety first, in their Profile. Meaning there is no
mention of it at all.

Does anyone agree?

Maybe I'm too laid back, but I think safety should go without saying. My favorite profiles are the ones left enticing and moderately informative yet reasonably concise... Safety is one of those things you can talk about later IMHO. It would be like mentioning condom usage as a disclaimer next to a statement about how much you enjoy sex... tacky. I'm probably alone in that though.

Dex

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/2/2006 1:20:37 PM

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hello all ,
thank you for the chance to reply im toilet trained with my old Mistress, it was very hard to learn at first but her whip and my eagerness to learn and please her was more important , there was no upgrade with he ,,,but as it turned out she had a stroke and became brain loss,,,so I m here alone seeking a new Mistress,,,im sorry if i jumped off the point but a good sub/slave does as much as possible to expand the slaves pottential...ty all for the time

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/2/2006 2:40:42 PM

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Im going to comment on open-mindedness rather than scat, as it was touched on a few times in this thread. The thing about open-mindedness is that the tolerance has to flow in both directions If we are going to accept those who are trying to explain how wonderful and beautiful this is to them, then by the same token we have to accept those who say its disgusting to them. If someone should be able to express in this forum their preferences for such play, another should be able to express their dislike of it. Neither is right or wrong. Scolding people for having a *negative* opinion about something, while advocating those who have a positive opinion about the same topic, seems somehow hypocritical.

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/2/2006 3:49:05 PM

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Im going to comment on open-mindedness rather than scat, as it was touched on a few times in this thread. The thing about open-mindedness is that the tolerance has to flow in both directions If we are going to accept those who are trying to explain how wonderful and beautiful this is to them, then by the same token we have to accept those who say its disgusting to them. If someone should be able to express in this forum their preferences for such play, another should be able to express their dislike of it. Neither is right or wrong. Scolding people for having a *negative* opinion about something, while advocating those who have a positive opinion about the same topic, seems somehow hypocritical.

Hi marieToo,

Was this in response to a particular post? Very nicely said though.

Dex

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RE: Full human toilet?? - 6/2/2006 4:10:09 PM

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Im going to comment on open-mindedness rather than scat, as it was touched on a few times in this thread. The thing about open-mindedness is that the tolerance has to flow in both directions If we are going to accept those who are trying to explain how wonderful and beautiful this is to them, then by the same token we have to accept those who say its disgusting to them. If someone should be able to express in this forum their preferences for such play, another should be able to express their dislike of it. Neither is right or wrong. Scolding people for having a *negative* opinion about something, while advocating those who have a positive opinion about the same topic, seems somehow hypocritical.

I believe the point people are making is about tolerance, and to label something being done by consenting adults as "disgusting" is hardly a tolerant attitude. If you're disgusted, then why post on a topic you're disgusted by?

If someone were to see you with a collar on, and told you they found you disgusting, would you not be angry at their comments?

Nobody's saying you have to agree with the topic, rather that you should be able to say that it's personally disgusting for you, but everyone is entitled to do what they enjoy as consenting adults.

Personally, I think disgust should be reserved for those who engage in sex acts with children, animals, the dead or the disabled. Everything else is 2 or more adults agreeing to enjoy each other.

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