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ExiledTyrant -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/14/2015 2:26:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ModAssistant5

Hello!

After a discussion with M3, we have decided to allow this thread to remain as it is. Please don't carry on the conversation with those that disrupted the thread as at least with those nicks they won't be back and any future nicks will not be remaining for long. Please enjoy the topic and thank you for your patience and understanding.

If you don't understand, please send all notes or input to M3 because she said she is the mean one and I am supposed to be nice. For now, anyway. [:D]

Thanks again!
MA5


Supposed to be nice... that's how they suck you in. The next thing you know your bank account is empty and she is enlarging her amazon wish list... you take on three more jobs just to satiate her blood lust and keep yourself from being executed.

Yeah, we know how this works.

Jus sayin



mnottertail -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/14/2015 2:30:36 PM)

No Germans were harmed during this sock-o-rama.

ASPCG Management.



ExiledTyrant -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/14/2015 2:32:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No Germans were harmed during this sock-o-rama.

ASPCG Management.



Although more than a few grammar Nazi's died from inner cranial aneurisms.



slvemike4u -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/14/2015 2:46:46 PM)

I come here for serious conversation and this is what I find....two(or is it three) amateurs trying to be funny.
Please leave comedy to the professionals(me),folks get hurt trying this shit at home



mnottertail -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/14/2015 2:47:22 PM)

Meh. ja, aber es macht nicht was soll es bedeuten. (Naturlich).

This is real german, kids, dont try this shit at home.



ThePrincessKali -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/14/2015 10:38:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gauge


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ORIGINAL: ThePrincessKali

And this is exactly why finsubs don't chime in. Believe me there are plenty of men out there who want nothing more than to buy gifts or tribute women. It's what they get off on. I can say that 100% certainty. I have two that I see regularly. I am not predatory in any way. They approached me. And honestly both have told me they wished I dehumanize them more. But harsh, judgemental posts like this are exactly what scares finsubs away from discussions such as this.



Forgive my tone, but do not let someone run you off because they are using language you find upsetting. I am finding the discussion very interesting, losing your input would be unfortunate.


I was referring to submissives who are into findom. They're out there. They're on this site. They get chastised when they comment here. Hence the reason they don't come on the message boards. At least that's my opinion.

And I'm happy to have a discussion but when people start being ignorant, rude, and naive I don't feel my opinions are necessary. I prefer civilized discussions. And Gauge not referring to you. It's directed at the young lady who apparently thinks Fin Dommes (or me since I identify as one) are ruining the world. Kind of defeats the purpose of a civilized chat.



dreamlady -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 12:01:53 AM)

Not true, my calorically-challenged troll. Men have been practicing hypergamy and making socially, economically, and politically advantageous marriage alliances throughout the entire historiography of civilization. No doubt before then, vying for the chieftain's daughter to win her hand in marriage.

Wives are now better educated than their husbands, on average, and this isn't just in Asia but worldwide. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Wives+now+better+educated+than+hubbies-a0306900366

Many women make more money than their male partners do and contribute more financially, as well as in the (traditionally lopsided not in favor of the female half of the couple's) division of household labor and with childrearing, than their husbands and boyfriends do.

Who do you think instituted the patriarchal practice of hypergamy? It's parents who have betrothed their children, often at a very young age (ref. India), who arranged and who still arrange marriages in many cultures. Who is the officially designated Head of Household in these families? The father or senior male family member.

Your outlandish premise fails.

Now, I have no issue with men being (love)slaves to women. They should be so lucky as to be found deserving of providing for a good woman's needs, wants, and desires in ensuring her happiness. There's a saying that goes like this: Happy Wife, Happy Life.

DreamLady



Moderator3 -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 12:30:57 AM)

FR

Please remember that we have had a couple of people enjoying a moment in what should be short lived and could very well bring on a bit more serious ramifications. If it is a new nickname and outrageous, please consider the source. The more worked up you get, your responses are fulfilling them and you are assisting them to work their magic and satisfy them.

There are parts of Terms of Service that really ought to warn the players off and might if they actually read it and knew what could happen as a result of their shenanigans. Most can be caught and it could be costly. What started as a challenge could work into something far more and when you aren't dealing with me anymore, you will see that I was actually the nice one, but some need to learn the hard way. What you mean for fun is actually starting to pay off for me and I'm having a good laugh, knowing whats shortly coming that will prove I was actually the nice one for a minute or two. [;)]



ThePrincessKali -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 1:55:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moderator3

FR

Please remember that we have had a couple of people enjoying a moment in what should be short lived and could very well bring on a bit more serious ramifications. If it is a new nickname and outrageous, please consider the source. The more worked up you get, your responses are fulfilling them and you are assisting them to work their magic and satisfy them.

There are parts of Terms of Service that really ought to warn the players off and might if they actually read it and knew what could happen as a result of their shenanigans. Most can be caught and it could be costly. What started as a challenge could work into something far more and when you aren't dealing with me anymore, you will see that I was actually the nice one, but some need to learn the hard way. What you mean for fun is actually starting to pay off for me and I'm having a good laugh, knowing whats shortly coming that will prove I was actually the nice one for a minute or two. [;)]


Who is this directed at?



Moderator3 -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 2:06:03 AM)

This is directed at all forum users that it applies to. The socks that are coming to post and stir things up and those responding to them, only as a reminder that the socks are playing others in an attempt to cause trouble on the forum.



ExiledTyrant -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 6:19:55 AM)

Can we have public executions yet?



slvemike4u -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 8:28:49 AM)

Interesting proposition Tyrant....would you be offering your services as high executioner (or sober ,if you prefer)



ExiledTyrant -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/15/2015 8:30:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Interesting proposition Tyrant....would you be offering your services as high executioner (or sober ,if you prefer)


Muhahahahahah I was built for the job ;)



MistressRage -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/16/2015 6:05:17 PM)

@OP

Just because a fetish is not in the DSM doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What it means is that not enough people have presented with it as a disordered behavior to have had it included in the most recent update. Updates are few and far between. That's not to say it won't be in the next DSM though. Also, the DSM is a GUIDE, it is not the end-all, be-all of psychology. How do I know? I am wrapping up my senior year as a psych major and I have discussed this exact topic with my human sexuality professor.

There are real time money Dommes and real time financial fetishists. Just because you haven't met them doesn't mean they don't exist. Would I say they are common? No. But, I have met them so I can vouch for their existence. Why don't many attend conventions? Maybe it's because of the exact attitudes exhibited on this thread. Some well known ProDommes engage in financial domination and they definitely attend events.

That's not to say that EVERYONE who claims to be a Findom or Finslave actually is one. Yes, there are absolutely people who are in it only for profit and don't give two shits about the fetish aspects; but, there are ProDommes who are the same way. Yes, there are hookers showing tits for cash tributes and calling it FinDom. Yes there are gals who spam people on sites like these, and that IS a shady, shitty business practice IMO. But there ARE people who do enjoy the power and control of it on both sides of the wallet so to speak. And not every FinDom is selling sex. In fact, the highest earning one out there doesn't show anything, doesn't strip on cam, etc.

The thing is, somebody is getting off on it because these ladies are consistently getting paid. I have personally known males (in real life) who DO get off on it sexually, and that makes it a fetish.

I find it silly how pissed off people get when BDSM and money cross over. That is an interesting reflection of our culture. I remember back in the days when AOL was new; many had the exact same attitude about ProDommes.



MistressRage -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/16/2015 6:11:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Gauge

One other point that I have yet to bring up is that financial domination appears to be a one way street, meaning simply that it appears that the dominants are exclusively female and the submissives are exclusively male. I find that to be oddly out of proportion respective to other parts of BDSM.



Nope, there are quite a few males doing it too. In fact, I once came across a site that is strictly for gay males into financial domination.



cloudboy -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/17/2015 5:48:51 AM)

You seem to be saying that the FINDOM is to FEMDOMs as the diaperist is to malesubs. (Speaking loosely, that is.)

I find this a pretty good insight. Either way, business planning and marketing aren't the sexiest activities in the world, and I'd want to be paid too.



MissWilt -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/17/2015 11:53:20 PM)

Hi all, just spent close to 2 hours reading this thread. As a Findom, I felt the drive to make a post.

Lets have a look at it this Findom in name. Financial- this is clear enough. Domination- is essentially to control or be controlled. So Financial Domination is to be controlled financially, just as a BDSM Mast/Mistress controls their subs/slaves. Do I believe that Findom falls under BDSM, yes I do. Because, it requires one participant to submit to the other.

I personally feel that Findom is indeed a true fetish, but due to all the "cash princesses" it has been given an entirely bad light. These cash princesses I have found are only around to try to make a quick buck for nothing. They gain nothing from the experience other than the cash.

When it comes down to my personal experience and kinks in Findom, I rather enjoy taking control of someones financials. No, not in taking it from them. But, in where and when it is spent. This is what I feel to be a true aspect of Findom. I currently have 2 subs, both of which approached me, who are what I class as Forced Budget subs. Essentially, the sub hands over control of their finances to me. I set a budget for them to follow, AFTER having discussed with them the kind of restriction we both would like to see. Much like in other D/s situations, the sub gets punished for disobedience, or in my case, for going over their budget. This punishment usually, for my subs, usually entails them relinquishing their "allowance" or "fun money" which I then put aside for them to earn back. I never use it for my personal enjoyment.

By now you all are probably wondering what happens with the excess that is not included in the budget. Am I right? Bet I am. Well, with my subs, I have them set up a savings account with their bank and all excess from the budget is placed into the savings account for their use at the conclusion of the determined service period.

I am going to say this now, and many will find it hard to believe, I NEVER request or demand a sub to give me their money. That is not my kink, at all. What gets me sexually excited, is knowing that I control their funds, and that they give this control to me of their own free will.

Any questions, feel free to message me!



ARIES83 -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/18/2015 1:02:02 AM)

I'm going to pop in here and add. Don't give anyone on this site any financial details or give anyone on the Internet access to your accounts ect... If you're stupid enough to do that. You deserve anything you get.

Besides that, I like financial control as a means to an end. Money means nothing to me. (Nothing erotic anyway)



NookieNotes -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/18/2015 3:15:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MissWilt
What gets me sexually excited, is knowing that I control their funds, and that they give this control to me of their own free will.


This, I get. In every way.



thishereboi -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (4/18/2015 4:24:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Elnard
Last I checked, Xena Warrior Princess didn't have a submissive male love interest. THAT wasn't even socially acceptable and you've just brought up the problem by trying to sarcastically come up with an answer. That's not a male's role, we need to save blonde girl because a homosexual female relationships (as fringe as it was when this show came out or whatever) is a hundred fold more acceptable than a male every taking the submissive role. I don't know, I didn't watch the show, I'm coming up with strange terms it looked like it sucked. But I can promise you two things without ever having seen it: either the blonde girl was the love interest, or the love interest was a kevin sorbo style hercules type man. There is no spot in again, hate to be a broken record, but there is no spot for a straight male to take that yellow haired girl role. "Edgy" as I'm sure the show tried to be.

I'm 99.9% positive you have never thought about that before. Just think about that. Mull it over and come tell me there's not a problem with society understanding men who crave that type of connection but aren't gay being ostracized. There's no need to even go any further what I've said has more emotional power and reason to it than going to refute whatever else you've decided to post.



Not sure what gave me the biggest chuckle. The fact that you are using a fictional story to prove a point about how real people act or the fact that you picked a show that you admit you have never watched to make it. Oh and just a fyi, she did have a little subby boy who followed her around in the show. Perhaps in addition to using all those big words to make yourself look smart, you could also have some idea of what you are talking about.



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