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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/16/2006 10:57:42 PM   
Sdarcy


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Am I the only one who had an instant replay of Rosie O'Donnell in "Exit To Eden" being asked by a beautiful nearly naked young male slave "Is there anything I can do for You, Mistress.....?" and having her look him up and down before replying - "Yeah. Paint my house."!

It's been a truism of mine for a long time that the expertise of the Dom is in inverse proportion to the length of time it takes for the blowjob to come up in negotiations <g>.

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Ms. Susanne D'Arcy

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 1:47:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ichana

If all sexual encounters are totally for your pleasure and the guy's pleasure is ignored or explicitly denied, I think that it can be a very submissive experience. I'm thinking about things like orgasm denial coupled with chastity when not having sex, using condoms layered on top of each other to deny the slave sensation during sex, etc.


Not to pick apart this post, but only as an example..  i see many comments that seem to imply if a slave enjoys the "serving"  it's no good.   Which is very close to the thread asking if being a masochist cancells out being a submissive.  My response over there is same as i am thinking here, Hey, if Master or Mistress buys you ice cream, and you just so happen to LIKE ice cream, what's so bad about that?

Am i reading a different expectation for male slaves than for female slaves?  IF i were a Domme..  and i'm not, so i'm just guessing... i wouldn't want a partner who was just "doing me" without enjoying the hell out of being with me.

Do male Doms like sex with partners who are not aroused in giving them pleasure?  i think not.  i wonder why we'd assume Dommes have no response to the passion of their slaves.

Anyone remember the movie with Donald Sutherland having sex with .. oh, i forget, hooker?  girlfriend who is a hooker?  anyway,  at some point, she is making all these faked out pleasure sounds, then steals a glance at her watch..   i'm betting if he'd have seen that,  it would have been dead-woody time.


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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 2:55:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sdarcy

Am I the only one who had an instant replay of Rosie O'Donnell in "Exit To Eden" being asked by a beautiful nearly naked young male slave "Is there anything I can do for You, Mistress.....?" and having her look him up and down before replying - "Yeah. Paint my house."!

It's been a truism of mine for a long time that the expertise of the Dom is in inverse proportion to the length of time it takes for the blowjob to come up in negotiations <g>.

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Ms. Susanne D'Arcy


Most eloquently stated.  Sums up pretty much what I was thinking as I read through these posts.  Kudos to you, Ms.  D'Arcy.

As for the whole post that induced the "heat stroke" replies...it ties into the "Paint My house" quote.  On the surface the work in the  sun  nude et al does appear to be foolish and downright dangerous.  I suppose such remarks must always be followed by the standard Disclaimer of safety and precautions.   However, reading it with the mindset of safe, sane and consentual practices, I thought it was clever. I have had several of My subs do very similar things. Again With Necessary precautions regarding health and well being  <insert Standard Disclaimer Here>  I have even had a sub dressed in his skimpy lingerie, chained up under the crawl space in My house in the middle of winter ..and here in New Hampshire, that's not walk in the park, so to speak.  Did I have him down there for hours on end? Did I leave him and not check on him the whole time? Of course not.  But did he learn the lesson I was teaching him? You betcha.  The bottom line is....there are MANY activities that on the surface are inherently dangerous...but if you educate yourself, and discuss the risks mutually...they are still activities that you may choose to engage in..again, with the necessary precautions.

However, I digress...bringing the post back round to the initial topic...Agreed..there are many submissives out there (gender neutral, you'll notice) that think D/s is just a novel new way to get kinky sex. Sure, it can be...but for many, the Lifestyle goes far deeper than that.  After being in the Lifestyle for a bit of time, it becomes pretty easy to be able to pick out those who's motivations do not match Your own.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 2:55:44 AM   
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greeting
 
this is how is goes a true male who wishes with his soul to serve me will not need to be tie up if i wish to tie him it part of the fun, you think that maybe some of the men are lining up to be a slave for sex no it is not for every male only the very few and the very strong. my slave is strong smart you see we do need to talk and i like my males smart who can go toe to toe with me in the thinking departemnet this is not all about sex it is about owning a sweet tender strong male who is being trained to do what i wish oh yes he will wear a chasity belt so no pleasure yet for him. If you have the wondeful chance to meet someone and he gave you his heart and soul to train and to do what you wished you letter would not be wo harsh towards males who a slave for sex i never is use the term sex slave he is never that trust me when treated kind and but with a firm hand you would be so surpised
 
take care i wish you well
 
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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 3:54:24 AM   
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Feel free to call me a weirdo, but I don't serve my Mistress in that way.  We have an amazing dynamic going but never in that way.  I truly have the need to submit to her and please her in anyway she requires, just not in that way.  We don't have sex, we get that from others in our lives. It is about the whole scene to me and not the saucy squidgy bits.  That type of thing may come into the relationship later, just not for now.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 8:18:25 AM   
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There are two great books that I "use" when I train by "Miss Abernathy". The Sex Slave is one of the categories you can train for but as the author of the books states, that is really a very limited role because when there's no sex going on, you aren't being useful and (in my opinion) you aren't being much of a slave.

The books recommend that anyone thinking they want to be "just a sex slave" needs to invest in other skills and services so they will be more attractive and have a greater chance of finding a partner.

Or to paraphrase Fox on this issue: Anyone who thinks that being a slave just do this or that is full of crap. Slaves have to be anything and everything an owner wants or her timetable. It isn't always fun, it isn't always sexy, it certainly isn't easy or mindless, but if it is the right path for you, it is always worth it.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 9:28:40 AM   
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I think I have found the words to explain this better.  The Domme should be aware of the submissive's personal "wish list".  That way she can surprise him for service well done, but at her desire, not his.  You always have to keep in mind the nature of the beast. And of course you really need to be on the same page to begin with!

I my case, it’s more of a joy for me AND my slave if I surprise him on occasion with one of his fantasies instead of him keeping a ticker of “I did this and this and this so she should give me this and that and that”.  I decide what and when. Does this help explain things a bit better?

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 10:10:46 AM   
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Well if you're going to be a "specialty" slave you damned well better be specialized, educated, willing, able and above all capable of performing everything in that specialty.

So if you're comming to me as a "sex slave" you better come with a degree in human sexuality (or the equivolent) as well as the practicle skills of the skills of a courtisan, the demeanor that enables you to make the most homely person in the world feel beautifull and desired above all others, The ability to determine from subconcious signals alone what the person enjoys why and how and have that sixth sense so fine tuned that you can figure out my fantasies and get into that role without letting me in on the fact that you are doing it on purpose.

That would make a sex slave.

In Leather

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 10:13:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

Well if you're going to be a "specialty" slave you damned well better be specialized, educated, willing, able and above all capable of performing everything in that specialty.

So if you're comming to me as a "sex slave" you better come with a degree in human sexuality (or the equivolent) as well as the practicle skills of the skills of a courtisan, the demeanor that enables you to make the most homely person in the world feel beautifull and desired above all others, The ability to determine from subconcious signals alone what the person enjoys why and how and have that sixth sense so fine tuned that you can figure out my fantasies and get into that role without letting me in on the fact that you are doing it on purpose.

That would make a sex slave.

In Leather

Archer


Yes, if one is going to play a role-they can at least try to do it competently.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/17/2006 12:55:25 PM   
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On the surface the work in the  sun  nude et al does appear to be foolish and downright dangerous.  I suppose such remarks must always be followed by the standard Disclaimer of safety and precautions.   However, reading it with the mindset of safe, sane and consentual practices, I thought it was clever.



I'm curious. You said 'on the surface' is appears to be foolish.  Can you expand a bit on how you would apply SSC to this situation to show those who are new that it's not foolish?

mow her yard, trim bushes, pick weeds while wearing a thong, 110 degree heat, chained down with a dog lead (not even a rope which could be cut through quickly if need be) .. and just to be nice, a steel dog dish placed in the sun to warm the water. That's the premise which she presented without any disclaimer.

I call it irresponsible, you call it clever. I added a link (and could have added 10 more because there is a lot of information out there regarding heat stroke) .. and I'm curious as to why you think it's clever.

Oh, the other thing, the person who posted that is not a dominant. She's a self-proclaimed Gorean kajira, BDSM slave and I took that knowledge into consideration as well .. obviously inexperienced in any role as dominant and lets just say that I take all her words with a hefty dose of salt. Generally she is just ignored as I would ignore a foolish child, but I made an exception in this case because she did not add a disclaimer for those who are new, lurking and may be uninformed.

Celeste

P.S. I don't embrace SSC myself, but as you do and used it as the mindset with which you read the post, that is the perspective that I am looking for here. Thanks in advance.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/20/2006 1:17:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:


On the surface the work in the  sun  nude et al does appear to be foolish and downright dangerous.  I suppose such remarks must always be followed by the standard Disclaimer of safety and precautions.   However, reading it with the mindset of safe, sane and consentual practices, I thought it was clever.



I'm curious. You said 'on the surface' is appears to be foolish.  Can you expand a bit on how you would apply SSC to this situation to show those who are new that it's not foolish?
SSC in this situation: Pre-hydration, Adequate SPF sunblock, Chained using a Quick Release Snap Lock (even quicker to release than cutting a rope) Warm water hydrates just as well as cold water, and has less potential for causing stomach cramps that cold can. Yard work done essentially nude, allows perspiration on the body to evaporate more quickly and efficiently than when wearing many articles of clothing, thus your body is cooled more efficiently, One need not work for hours on end in any activity without taking adequate breaks in either the shade, or a cooled area. 
mow her yard, trim bushes, pick weeds while wearing a thong, 110 degree heat, chained down with a dog lead (not even a rope which could be cut through quickly if need be) .. and just to be nice, a steel dog dish placed in the sun to warm the water. That's the premise which she presented without any disclaimer.

I call it irresponsible, you call it clever. I added a link (and could have added 10 more because there is a lot of information out there regarding heat stroke) .. and I'm curious as to why you think it's clever.
I personally think it's clever, because it is creating a scenario that again, "on the surface" seems like cruel,harsh and inescapable (thus the feeling of helplessness and usery) but that a responsible Dominant could easily have well-in hand. As a Dominant, I believe it is My place to ensure that whatever I use My subs for, I always keep them in safe working order..so that I have them as toys to play with another time.  Much of the planning for a scene is basic common sense and health precautions.  Which is why I made the remark "I suppose such remarks must always be followed by the Standard Disclaimer of safety and precautions. However reading it with the mindset of safe, sane consentual practices, I thought it was clever."
Oh, the other thing, the person who posted that is not a dominant. She's a self-proclaimed Gorean kajira, BDSM slave and I took that knowledge into consideration as well .. obviously inexperienced in any role as dominant and lets just say that I take all her words with a hefty dose of salt. Generally she is just ignored as I would ignore a foolish child, but I made an exception in this case because she did not add a disclaimer for those who are new, lurking and may be uninformed.

I wonder why you think that because she is a "self-proclaimed Gorean kajira, BDSM slave" she was "obviously inexperienced in any role as a dominant? I cannot find the original post to go back and read her profile to see if she indicates she has no experience either being one, or being educated by one or not. So I must take your word for it that she has no experience.  In addition, as I recall, I felt the post had a bit of "tongue in cheek" flavor to it...but I may have been mistaken.  I suppose "<insert Standard Precaution Clause>" should be a part of most, if not all posts, so that the inexperienced, and uninformed cannot claim misguidance...but I tend to prefer to allow individuals to be responsible for their own choices and actions. 
MMNH
(there's no special significance to this last part not being in the same font face-I've tried several times to adjust it..but it just stays the same)
Celeste

P.S. I don't embrace SSC myself, but as you do and used it as the mindset with which you read the post, that is the perspective that I am looking for here. Thanks in advance.

 


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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/20/2006 1:40:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

Anyway i do not need sympathy i need more dry towels.............and maybe knee pads........


Oh stop bragging, girl!! Some of us ain't getting any at the moment. 

Seriously, you're starting to make me consider looking for a dominant/dominant couple!  

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/20/2006 2:08:47 PM   
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Archer and Caretakr have made some interesting points about female sex slaves...but I think I need to start a new thread and not hijack this one.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/20/2006 3:17:57 PM   
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wow, I've been gone a few days and this thread has been all over the map it seems, so I am going back to the OP's statement--
 
I am so there with you Akasha, like THEIR oral service would make Me stop dead in My tracks, puhleez----along with the questions, " Mistress what do you want me to do?"--the slave that got My attention was the one who said to Me--"Mistress I have all these extra skills and talents--if you can use them somehow"---there was NO list of do-me's, no mention of sexual service---NONE, many service things were assumed--and he had all these extras---it made Me go ---wow!
 
Sexual service, puhleez----I can go to a bar, have a martini and lay someone if that's what I seek.

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RE: Where can I find a good SEX slave? - 7/20/2006 8:35:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leatherbndnloct

and thats the trick, When i think about wanting to be a male sex slave, the whole point would be to set up an orgasm imbalence.



That's an interesting concept, something my puppy was discussing with me the last couple of days, how his interest in sex has shifted to my pleasure only, and whether he orgasms or not has become irrelevant to my multiple ones. By the same token, he feels he's wearing a mental chastity belt; if I'm not with him, his orgasm becomes pointless, so he's stopped masturbating.

On the other hand, that's just a side-effect of his connection to me. He certainly wasn't selected to be a "sex slave."

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