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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 4:17:01 PM

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 4:25:04 PM

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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 4:49:14 PM

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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.

Mad Max is a better analogy.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:01:14 PM

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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.

The best thing about Obama's presidency has been all the racial healing.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:05:58 PM

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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.

The best thing about Obama's presidency has been all the racial healing.

Dont forget about his fawning media, who got him elected and helped so much with the healing

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:11:57 PM

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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.

The best thing about Obama's presidency has been all the racial healing.

There has been so many teachable moments haven't there.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:24:42 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:33:31 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:34:34 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

Was the number 49 or 137? This was the hanging point if there were 75 cops how did they decide who to charge, draw names? I think you are mixing cases. The one I read that included the number 49 did not include all the details but said they charged the one cop because he continued to fire AFTER THE CAR HAD STOPPED. This means that the majority of the rounds were fired when the car was coming at them. He was acquitted because they couldn't prove that he was the one who fired the fatal round. The car was apparently their weapon so the fact that they didn't fire a gun is of no importance. Looks a lot like he was tried to make people like you happy, they should have realized that nothing but a conviction would count.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 5:38:44 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

lol yes, that is what i meant.. i musta had a brain fart....

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 6:02:15 PM

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The brutes are killing each other... The police are in the middle...

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 6:08:41 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

Wait. . . is this the case where there was the high speed chase that only ended because they turned into a dead end and that they rammed a police car? Cause. . . an almost 2 ton chunk of maneuverable metal is NOT unarmed. (hence there is this thing called "vehicular homicide.")

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 6:16:07 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

Wait. . . is this the case where there was the high speed chase that only ended because they turned into a dead end and that they rammed a police car? Cause. . . an almost 2 ton chunk of maneuverable metal is NOT unarmed. (hence there is this thing called "vehicular homicide.")

A general class of shootings I was berated for pointing out at the beginning of the thread.
Two people insisted that cops should just get out of the way and let them go since the weapon of choice was a automobile.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 6:48:55 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

Wait. . . is this the case where there was the high speed chase that only ended because they turned into a dead end and that they rammed a police car? Cause. . . an almost 2 ton chunk of maneuverable metal is NOT unarmed. (hence there is this thing called "vehicular homicide.")

No, they had stopped and parked in a parking lot when the cops fired upon them...

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 6:59:41 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

Wait. . . is this the case where there was the high speed chase that only ended because they turned into a dead end and that they rammed a police car? Cause. . . an almost 2 ton chunk of maneuverable metal is NOT unarmed. (hence there is this thing called "vehicular homicide.")

No, they had stopped and parked in a parking lot when the cops fired upon them...

If your information is accurate you are talking about a case with which I am unfamiliar. Every case of attempted vehicular homicide against cops generates at least one story claiming the "victims" were just sitting still minding their own business. You may not be, I remember articles telling us that Michael Brown was on his knees trying to surrender. You may well be depending on a source of equal veracity. You are going to have to tell us what case you are talking about and stop mixing them up. The 75 cops firing 137 rounds is less than two rounds per cop, that would mean that something triggered the shooting and the cops stopped almost instantly. It is also at odds with the 49 rounds fired which is a case with which I am familiar and they were not just sitting there minding their own business.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 7:09:43 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

Wait. . . is this the case where there was the high speed chase that only ended because they turned into a dead end and that they rammed a police car? Cause. . . an almost 2 ton chunk of maneuverable metal is NOT unarmed. (hence there is this thing called "vehicular homicide.")

No, they had stopped and parked in a parking lot when the cops fired upon them...

If your information is accurate you are talking about a case with which I am unfamiliar. Every case of attempted vehicular homicide against cops generates at least one story claiming the "victims" were just sitting still minding their own business. You may not be, I remember articles telling us that Michael Brown was on his knees trying to surrender. You may well be depending on a source of equal veracity. You are going to have to tell us what case you are talking about and stop mixing them up. The 75 cops firing 137 rounds is less than two rounds per cop, that would mean that something triggered the shooting and the cops stopped almost instantly. It is also at odds with the 49 rounds fired which is a case with which I am familiar and they were not just sitting there minding their own business.

I'm also going to point out that when I have something like four people on my porch shooting it gets real real busy. I'm also reminded that generally CQB is a five guy thing. I don't really see 75 guys all there at once unloading magazines o' fun or retribution.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 7:34:36 PM

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FYI, the cop who shot the man in the back has been charged with murder. Colour me stupid but I would think shooting a man eight times in the back is a bit unreasonable just because he was running away. Nothing in his actions gave the cop the right to kill him.

but in the US a cop being charged does not mean he will be found guilty of murder.. the cop that shot at the car (in my previous post's links) fired 49 bullets into the car (talk about unreasonable), he was charged but found not guilty.. there were 2 dozen bullets in each of the 2 dead people.. 75 cops fired a total of 137 bullets into the car when it was parked in a parking lot.. someones bullets killed them.. The problem is that even if cops are charged with assault or murder, they are very rarely ever found guilty of anything.. and of course the cops know that nothing or very little will happen to them..

What's the number that above is unreasonable and below is reasonable, especially if they are shooting at you and you have more bullets?

the couple in the car shot to bits did not have a gun, they never had a gun (if they had fired a gun there would have been gun powder residue on their hands and clothes) and they never fired at anyone.. they were parked (which i take to be that they were surrendering) when they were executed... so in this case any number above 1 bullet is unreasonable, imo..

I think you mean to say since they weren't armed zero bullets would have been reasonable.

Wait. . . is this the case where there was the high speed chase that only ended because they turned into a dead end and that they rammed a police car? Cause. . . an almost 2 ton chunk of maneuverable metal is NOT unarmed. (hence there is this thing called "vehicular homicide.")

No, they had stopped and parked in a parking lot when the cops fired upon them...

No department in the world is going to deploy 75 officers for two people sitting in a parking lot.
The closest thing to what you are talking about was when the CA cops mistook one for the car the cop killer was driving a couple of years ago. Nobody, not even the LA PD tried to justify that one son even with it you are on thin ice.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/11/2015 9:43:13 PM

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I believe this is the case being discussed.

"During the trial, prosecutors argued that Officer Brelo’s actions crossed the line from justifiable to reckless when he climbed onto the car’s hood, but the judge disagreed.

Before rendering his verdict, Judge O’Donnell spoke from the bench about widespread tensions between the police and African-Americans, mentioning Ferguson and Baltimore.

“In many American places, people are angry with, mistrustful and fearful of, the police,” he said. “Citizens think the men and women sworn to protect and serve have violated that oath or never meant it in the first place.”

But Judge O’Donnell said he would not let those sentiments cloud his verdict, and he found that Officer Brelo had reasonably perceived a threat from Mr. Russell’s car. The decision to continue firing from the hood was protected by law, he ruled, clearing Officer Brelo of all charges. The shooting was “reasonable despite knowing now that there was no gun in the car and he was mistaken about the gunshots,” Judge O’Donnell said.

“I reject the claim that 12 seconds after the shooting began, it was patently clear from the perspective of a reasonable police officer that the threat had been stopped,” he said, contrasting the prosecutors’ claims that the justifiable action ended when Officer Brelo climbed onto the hood."
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/michael-brelo-cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-of-manslaughter-in-2012-deaths.html?referrer=

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/06/police-shoot-137-times-into-car-after-chase-killing-unarmed-couple.html

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/12/2015 4:43:49 AM

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If you paid attention you would know that in most cases when all of the facts come out the truth is far more in favor of the police than in the original story. I often defend the police, and when the facts come out I am virtually always vindicated. There have been almost as many times that I have stated the police were wrong as when I said they were right. You and most of the left take "lets wait for all of the facts" as saying the police were right.
You on the other hand have never found an incident where the police were (in your Godlike opinion) right. You believe every accusation against them even after they are proven wrong.

Have you considered pretending you are an adult? While posts will never merit anything beyond the infantile label, with some good acting, some self belief, lots of chutzpah and (I know this is a big ask, but please bear with me) some occasionally intelligent content (feel free to copy and paste) you might actually be able to successfully masquerade as a thinking adult every now and then. Just think about that wonderful feeling of achievement you will experience!

I wish you the best of luck with this exciting project. Break a leg, as they say in show business!

He calls bullshit on your lies and this is the best you can come back with? Perhaps you could take your own advise and try to post like an adult and not an angry child.

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/12/2015 7:35:00 AM

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in both cases stated these people took off running now as yourself why

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