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BamaD -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 5:35:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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“I cannot imagine the horror that could’ve occurred if people were sitting around with concealed weapons, this thing started and you had a full-scale gunfight,” he told host Ed Schultz. “You might not even have three survivors.”

Imagine what could have happened.

You might have one dead gunman rather than nine dead innocent people.


Probably about the same, I'd think. Who sits in a church, worshipping, with their hand on a gun, watching and waiting for someone else to pull out his own gun and begin shooting?



He made a speech before he started shooting.




lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 5:41:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Who sits in a church, worshipping, with their hand on a gun, watching and waiting for someone else to pull out his own gun and begin shooting?


For the answer, see post #: 374




Lucylastic -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 5:42:05 AM)

victim blaming at its finest.




lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 5:53:12 AM)

I'm not sure how you're coming up with that Lucy.




PeonForHer -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 5:53:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Who sits in a church, worshipping, with their hand on a gun, watching and waiting for someone else to pull out his own gun and begin shooting?


For the answer, see post #: 374


You mean, an armed church security guard, rather than an armed congregation.

Bloody hell, though, you really want to go down that road? Armed guards in churches, armed guards in schools?

Jeez: guns breeding like rats, infesting everywhere ... though far more dangerous ....




Lucylastic -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 6:00:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

I'm not sure how you're coming up with that Lucy.

oh really.
do you think I was commenting on your comment or bamas? clarification isnt really hard to ask for.




lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 6:07:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Who sits in a church, worshipping, with their hand on a gun, watching and waiting for someone else to pull out his own gun and begin shooting?


For the answer, see post #: 374


You mean, an armed church security guard, rather than an armed congregation.

Bloody hell, though, you really want to go down that road? Armed guards in churches, armed guards in schools?

Jeez: guns breeding like rats, infesting everywhere ... though far more dangerous ....



Ya got a better idea how to stop these random gun murders ? What's wrong with a member of the congregation packin heat ? There are instances where heat packin church members stopped this sort of thing.




lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 6:10:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

I'm not sure how you're coming up with that Lucy.

oh really.
do you think I was commenting on your comment or bamas? clarification isnt really hard to ask for.


Bamas, but yes, I was trying to get a clarification.




PeonForHer -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 6:22:43 AM)

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What's wrong with a member of the congregation packin heat ?


Well, people want to be in church to worship, and that takes a special sort of mindset, so I understand. You need to have much more than just a gun, you need to be tuned in and ready to use it. Aren't those two different wavelengths somewhat contradictory?




lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 6:54:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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What's wrong with a member of the congregation packin heat ?


Well, people want to be in church to worship, and that takes a special sort of mindset, so I understand. You need to have much more than just a gun, you need to be tuned in and ready to use it. Aren't those two different wavelengths somewhat contradictory?


You're making too much more out of it than there is. If a church member can bring his weapon out within about 1 to 3 seconds, the armed individual or better yet individuals are participating in church and shit happens, he or she will know it. They will also have the advantage of surprise as an attacker won't know who out of a number of people might return lethal force.




kdsub -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 7:37:20 AM)

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Just twisted evil fucks, the most overrepresented minority in the world.


I don't believe you should assign a minority to twisted evil. It has been shown time and time again through history how an evil idea, for instance exterminate Jews, can take hold in a normally rational compassionate population of millions.

Butch




bounty44 -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 7:41:10 AM)

this is interesting...

http://www.amazon.com/Pistol-Packin-Preachers-Circuit-Riders/dp/1589792009

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Circuit riders and other early preachers confronted dangerous outlaws, Indians, wild animals, and Texas' unpredictable weather. Their stories chronicle bringing one element of civilization to early explorers and settlers. Some fought for Texas independence with a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other




kdsub -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 7:45:29 AM)

Wouldn't you just love to go back to those days...oh wait that's where we are headed now... Pistol packen preacher... yep God will just love this.

Butch




Owner59 -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 9:04:45 AM)

The nra campaign to mainstream carrying weapons in public is disturbing as it is ridiculous.

The nra types imagine everything falls their way when more guns are added. They don`t. It`s the good guy with a gun that accidentally kills his daughter who learns that the hard way.

Fairytales of how " good guy w/ a gun" might have saved the day.

Maybe.........maybe not.

The coward nra types won`t tell you that a gun in the house is more likely to be used against a family member either by accident or during a fight.

Or of the mounting stories of kids shooting kids with guns they find. Or of the "good guy with a gun" who kills an innocent.

Just that guns are the answer to every gun problem.

The nra is covertly trying to mainstream what most people don`t want. It won`t work and will only make the nra types seem craven and callous, especially after blaming one of the victim.

For Christ sake the pastor wasn`t even buried yet.

Most Americans don`t want to go to church with AK-47s everywhere. It`s their right to have it so. I`ve no doubt that there is a gun nut church somewhere for who want that. 





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There`s been a bit of a scuffle with these "open carry" morons lately, who get a rise out of going into stores/malls and restaurants armed with semi-auto pistols and rifles.

If you haven`t been watching,you wouldn`t know that one store/restaurant chain after another has gone though having to specifically ban guns from their properties because of the provocative and pretty fucking scary shit they do.

Go on you tube and search "open carry" or "open carry Texas" and see the reaction of normal folks, when eight gunmen walk in. 

That`s part of their fun......as well as arguing/ranting about their 2nd Amendment rights yada yada....

1st comes the assault ,walking in with M16s over their shoulders and then phony outrage when they`re asked to leave the guns in the car.

Then comes the threats of  boycott these adult babies.<squeak>[:D]

Eventually corporate is forced to make a decision and for the most part, the gunuters lose.Then their web site declares war against the store yada yada....No one important gives a fuck.

The folks at corporate who manage national chains don`t want these pretend soldiers causing problems. They give zero fucks about "open carry" types.

And they don`t need the few bucks they`ll lose either.

They are more worried about the money they`ll won`t earn b/c mommy and the children don`t want to shop with armed nutters in their aisle.

Economic democracy at it finest .[:D]

Someday conservatives will learn that freedom cuts both ways.[;)]








HunterCA -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 9:57:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

I'm not sure how you're coming up with that Lucy.

oh really.
do you think I was commenting on your comment or bamas? clarification isnt really hard to ask for.

The dense card.




HunterCA -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 10:01:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

The nra campaign to mainstream carrying weapons in public is disturbing as it is ridiculous.

The nra types imagine everything falls their way when more guns are added. They don`t. It`s the good guy with a gun that accidentally kills his daughter who learns that the hard way.

Fairytales of how " good guy w/ a gun" might have saved the day.

Maybe.........maybe not.

The coward nra types won`t tell you that a gun in the house is more likely to be used against a family member either by accident or during a fight.

Or of the mounting stories of kids shooting kids with guns they find. Or of the "good guy with a gun" who kills an innocent.

Just that guns are the answer to every gun problem.

The nra is covertly trying to mainstream what most people don`t want. It won`t work and will only make the nra types seem craven and callous, especially after blaming one of the victim.

For Christ sake the pastor wasn`t even buried yet.

Most Americans don`t want to go to church with AK-47s everywhere. It`s their right to have it so. I`ve no doubt that there is a gun nut church somewhere for who want that. 





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There`s been a bit of a scuffle with these "open carry" morons lately, who get a rise out of going into stores/malls and restaurants armed with semi-auto pistols and rifles.

If you haven`t been watching,you wouldn`t know that one store/restaurant chain after another has gone though having to specifically ban guns from their properties because of the provocative and pretty fucking scary shit they do.

Go on you tube and search "open carry" or "open carry Texas" and see the reaction of normal folks, when eight gunmen walk in. 

That`s part of their fun......as well as arguing/ranting about their 2nd Amendment rights yada yada....

1st comes the assault ,walking in with M16s over their shoulders and then phony outrage when they`re asked to leave the guns in the car.

Then comes the threats of  boycott these adult babies.<squeak>[:D]

Eventually corporate is forced to make a decision and for the most part, the gunuters lose.Then their web site declares war against the store yada yada....No one important gives a fuck.

The folks at corporate who manage national chains don`t want these pretend soldiers causing problems. They give zero fucks about "open carry" types.

And they don`t need the few bucks they`ll lose either.

They are more worried about the money they`ll won`t earn b/c mommy and the children don`t want to shop with armed nutters in their aisle.

Economic democracy at it finest .[:D]

Someday conservatives will learn that freedom cuts both ways.[;)]






It's nice to have specific targets to hate isn't it. Especially when your politcal philosophy covers for you and redefines that hate as "intolerance against hate". Then you can really sleep soundly at night knowing all your lefty friends approve of your "intolerance".




Owner59 -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 10:02:12 AM)

The latest twist.......republican presidential  candidates panicking to return donations to the "Council of Conservative Citizens"  who as it turns out,was one of the main white supremacy influences of the Church shooter. Beside the right`s ugly narrative that George Zimmerman with the victim.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/council-of-conservative-citizens

How long before we hear that Obama is behind all this ,pulling the strings to fuck ted cruz in the ass.....[:D]





lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 10:04:47 AM)

I'm
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ORIGINAL: HunterCA


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

The nra campaign to mainstream carrying weapons in public is disturbing as it is ridiculous.

The nra types imagine everything falls their way when more guns are added. They don`t. It`s the good guy with a gun that accidentally kills his daughter who learns that the hard way.

Fairytales of how " good guy w/ a gun" might have saved the day.

Maybe.........maybe not.

The coward nra types won`t tell you that a gun in the house is more likely to be used against a family member either by accident or during a fight.

Or of the mounting stories of kids shooting kids with guns they find. Or of the "good guy with a gun" who kills an innocent.

Just that guns are the answer to every gun problem.

The nra is covertly trying to mainstream what most people don`t want. It won`t work and will only make the nra types seem craven and callous, especially after blaming one of the victim.

For Christ sake the pastor wasn`t even buried yet.

Most Americans don`t want to go to church with AK-47s everywhere. It`s their right to have it so. I`ve no doubt that there is a gun nut church somewhere for who want that. 





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There`s been a bit of a scuffle with these "open carry" morons lately, who get a rise out of going into stores/malls and restaurants armed with semi-auto pistols and rifles.

If you haven`t been watching,you wouldn`t know that one store/restaurant chain after another has gone though having to specifically ban guns from their properties because of the provocative and pretty fucking scary shit they do.

Go on you tube and search "open carry" or "open carry Texas" and see the reaction of normal folks, when eight gunmen walk in. 

That`s part of their fun......as well as arguing/ranting about their 2nd Amendment rights yada yada....

1st comes the assault ,walking in with M16s over their shoulders and then phony outrage when they`re asked to leave the guns in the car.

Then comes the threats of  boycott these adult babies.<squeak>[:D]

Eventually corporate is forced to make a decision and for the most part, the gunuters lose.Then their web site declares war against the store yada yada....No one important gives a fuck.

The folks at corporate who manage national chains don`t want these pretend soldiers causing problems. They give zero fucks about "open carry" types.

And they don`t need the few bucks they`ll lose either.

They are more worried about the money they`ll won`t earn b/c mommy and the children don`t want to shop with armed nutters in their aisle.

Economic democracy at it finest .[:D]

Someday conservatives will learn that freedom cuts both ways.[;)]






It's nice to have specific targets to hate isn't it. Especially when your politcal philosophy covers for you and redefines that hate as "intolerance against hate". Then you can really sleep soundly at night knowing all your lefty friends approve of your "intolerance".


Not only that but the bat shit crazy stick up the ass card.




HunterCA -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 10:07:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

The latest twist.......republican presidential  candidates panicking to return donations to the "Council of Conservative Citizens"  who as it turns out,was one of the main white supremacy influences of the Church shooter. Beside the right`s ugly narrative that George Zimmerman with the victim.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/council-of-conservative-citizens

How long before we hear that Obama is behind all this ,pulling the strings to fuck ted cruz in the ass.....[:D]



Ya, if only Hillary would recognize she is sitting on Ill gotten gain from selling the US and return that. But, for some reason that okay and then when someone on the right finds out where ill gotten gain comes from and returns it, that's evil. What a twisted mind.




lovmuffin -> RE: Unidentified Man attacks Black Church in SC (6/22/2015 10:15:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

The nra campaign to mainstream carrying weapons in public is disturbing as it is ridiculous.

The nra types imagine everything falls their way when more guns are added. They don`t. It`s the good guy with a gun that accidentally kills his daughter who learns that the hard way.

Fairytales of how " good guy w/ a gun" might have saved the day.

Maybe.........maybe not.

The coward nra types won`t tell you that a gun in the house is more likely to be used against a family member either by accident or during a fight.

Or of the mounting stories of kids shooting kids with guns they find. Or of the "good guy with a gun" who kills an innocent.

Just that guns are the answer to every gun problem.

The nra is covertly trying to mainstream what most people don`t want. It won`t work and will only make the nra types seem craven and callous, especially after blaming one of the victim.

For Christ sake the pastor wasn`t even buried yet.

Most Americans don`t want to go to church with AK-47s everywhere. It`s their right to have it so. I`ve no doubt that there is a gun nut church somewhere for who want that. 





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There`s been a bit of a scuffle with these "open carry" morons lately, who get a rise out of going into stores/malls and restaurants armed with semi-auto pistols and rifles.

If you haven`t been watching,you wouldn`t know that one store/restaurant chain after another has gone though having to specifically ban guns from their properties because of the provocative and pretty fucking scary shit they do.

Go on you tube and search "open carry" or "open carry Texas" and see the reaction of normal folks, when eight gunmen walk in. 

That`s part of their fun......as well as arguing/ranting about their 2nd Amendment rights yada yada....

1st comes the assault ,walking in with M16s over their shoulders and then phony outrage when they`re asked to leave the guns in the car.

Then comes the threats of  boycott these adult babies.<squeak>[:D]

Eventually corporate is forced to make a decision and for the most part, the gunuters lose.Then their web site declares war against the store yada yada....No one important gives a fuck.

The folks at corporate who manage national chains don`t want these pretend soldiers causing problems. They give zero fucks about "open carry" types.

And they don`t need the few bucks they`ll lose either.

They are more worried about the money they`ll won`t earn b/c mommy and the children don`t want to shop with armed nutters in their aisle.

Economic democracy at it finest .[:D]

Someday conservatives will learn that freedom cuts both ways.[;)]







In addition to being pro Second Amendment, I'm also very conservative, pro life, anti big spending out of control government and anti police state. I don't care much for NY or CA politics.

How else may I piss you off today ? 😎




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