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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 9:03:00 AM   
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I love taking on a cocky little bastard and bringing him to his knees. It's not that I want a zombie or a robot. More that I enjoy breaking in and taming something wild.



J, I'm curious. If what you enjoy is the breaking and taming, then aren't you bored after when he is tamed? If so, does this mean your relationships are always short lived?


Some people prefer to buy foal that is already saddle broke, others enjoy creating the bond of breaking it in themselves and then keeping it, although some people break in horses just to sell them to others.

It's about the same distribution of interests with D-types in my experience.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 9:16:45 AM   
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That seems like a good example to me of how those words can be really not useful.

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Brats: Actually resist doing as they are told, wanting to be forced to submit.

Smart Ass: Talks all manner of sass, but does as told. Sassing is usually to get some attention/engagement/punishment.


You see, I love to be forced to submit (by and to my master, not anybody else!) but challenging him would be inappropriate beyond the scope of punishment.



These are MY personal delineations. As such, they would apply to you only as I defined them, not as you chose to.

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I found I had no desire to disobey, or openly challenge them, or any of that. If I found someone that tugged at my submissive side, I was generally still a smartass and playful, which they loved. And I was still playfully challenging with them, which is part of what made me attractive to them. But I wanted to submit to them and I didn't pretend otherwise.


A classic Smart Ass Sub or SAS. One of my favorite kinds.

*smiles*


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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 9:17:50 AM   
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Now when my master just frowns at me I hurry to find out how I might have caused him any kind of displeasure.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 10:14:05 AM   
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These are MY personal delineations. As such, they would apply to you only as I defined them, not as you chose to.


Wow, I get it, reality isn't an option.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 10:56:33 AM   
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That seems like a good example to me of how those words can be really not useful.

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

Brats: Actually resist doing as they are told, wanting to be forced to submit.

Smart Ass: Talks all manner of sass, but does as told. Sassing is usually to get some attention/engagement/punishment.


You see, I love to be forced to submit (by and to my master, not anybody else!) but challenging him would be inappropriate beyond the scope of punishment.



These are MY personal delineations. As such, they would apply to you only as I defined them, not as you chose to.

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
I found I had no desire to disobey, or openly challenge them, or any of that. If I found someone that tugged at my submissive side, I was generally still a smartass and playful, which they loved. And I was still playfully challenging with them, which is part of what made me attractive to them. But I wanted to submit to them and I didn't pretend otherwise.


A classic Smart Ass Sub or SAS. One of my favorite kinds.

*smiles*



SaS=sass ooh I like that...Thank you! now to get Fet to put that as a role...

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 11:14:26 AM   
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These are MY personal delineations. As such, they would apply to you only as I defined them, not as you chose to.


Wow, I get it, reality isn't an option.



Do you get it? Really?

Because here's the thing... You can say you are a chicken. I will likely NOT define you that way. My reality is simple. I make my own determinations about people based on observation and experience.

I would imagine you do the same thing. In fact, I would bet on it. I have yet to meet a single person who does not.

So, if you are suggesting that people don't do that or should not do that, I would question your reality, because I am very happy in mine.


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SaS=sass ooh I like that...Thank you! now to get Fet to put that as a role...


You are quite welcome. *smiles*

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 11:57:45 AM   
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Do you get it? Really? [...] You can say you are a chicken. I will likely NOT define you that way. My reality is simple.


I think that I do get it, master sends his greetings and says that he is satisfied with me, thank you.
Defining stuff however means that you venture into the realm of science where definitions are not a personal issue.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 12:53:51 PM   
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Defining stuff however means that you venture into the realm of science where definitions are not a personal issue.


I'm confused...definitions can be scientific or non-scientific. What is this referring to?

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 1:27:00 PM   
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I'm confused...definitions can be scientific or non-scientific. What is this referring to?


No they can't. The definition of a definition is that a definition is the definition of the definition.

Being dominant doesn't make you smart or educated or wise for that matter. Being submissive does not make you stupid either.

I do, however, have an idea that some people claim their dominance as a way of getting away with their lack of character or willingness to work.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 2:08:52 PM   
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In my personal view, I use two different words for those others may see as "brats."

Brats: Actually resist doing as they are told, wanting to be forced to submit.

Smart Ass: Talks all manner of sass, but does as told. Sassing is usually to get some attention/engagement/punishment.

I don't do brats. I LOVE LOVE LOVE smart asses, and enjoy molding them.


Haha! I love that. I have often called my slave a brat, but she is really a smart ass... and, of course I've called her that too... or rather, asked her the question "You know what smart asses get?" to which she replies "Asses that smart" :)

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 2:15:43 PM   
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Do you get it? Really? [...] You can say you are a chicken. I will likely NOT define you that way. My reality is simple.




I think that I do get it, master sends his greetings and says that he is satisfied with me, thank you.
Defining stuff however means that you venture into the realm of science where definitions are not a personal issue.



Well... No. That is not correct. Even science may define a term in a unique fashion specific to a particular hypothesis or experiment (which is analogous to a personal - read unique- definition). Definitions do not have to be universally shared, they must simply be universally understandable... and if you define a term in a unique way, for a unique circumstance, and in a way that is comprehensible to anyone... you are still in the realm of science.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 2:28:58 PM   
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"You know what smart asses get?" to which she replies "Asses that smart" :)


I say: "Please please don't make me do that Sir. I beg you, please."
He says: "My, Danny, if it really seems that hard to you I sure won't make you do it."


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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 5:03:45 PM   
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actually I see brats as litle more than pains in the ass and not worth the s in sub. Few brats have I actually gotten along with. I'm not fond of spoiled twats


So just out of curiosity, what would you call a male who was seen as a brat?


Other personality traits would help determine that, along with the selected plan of correction.

Bastard fits most, along with the appropriate adjectives (little, smug, insolent, lazy, etc). Standard female references if there's a need to emasculate (bitch, twat, cunt, pussyboy, etc).

It's rare that I use the latter, because I am drawn to masculinity.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 5:11:52 PM   
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So just out of curiosity, what would you call a male who was seen as a brat?


Not worthy *duck*.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 5:30:02 PM   
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I am drawn to masculinity.


So am I and so is my master, he is proud of the fact that he can't make me cry.
He has tickled me to the point where my eyes watered and I asked him as nicely as I possibly could to please stop.

I know, however, that I don't bitch and whine because Master wouldn't let me get away with it.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 5:53:32 PM   
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I'm confused...definitions can be scientific or non-scientific. What is this referring to?

No they can't. The definition of a definition is that a definition is the definition of the definition.


Ok. Sure thing. You go with that.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 6:16:02 PM   
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I am drawn to masculinity.


So am I and so is my master, he is proud of the fact that he can't make me cry.
He has tickled me to the point where my eyes watered and I asked him as nicely as I possibly could to please stop.

I know, however, that I don't bitch and whine because Master wouldn't let me get away with it.



I don't see crying as inheritantly feminine, or at all negative. Merely a symptom of pain, whether physical or emotional.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 6:38:30 PM   
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I don't see crying as inheritantly feminine, or at all negative. Merely a symptom of pain, whether physical or emotional.


That's correct, I do cry (sentimental music!) and I love the fact that I can lean on my master's shoulders.

The manly thing in my mind is that I can refuse to be made to.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 6:59:54 PM   
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actually I see brats as litle more than pains in the ass and not worth the s in sub. Few brats have I actually gotten along with. I'm not fond of spoiled twats


So just out of curiosity, what would you call a male who was seen as a brat?


Other personality traits would help determine that, along with the selected plan of correction.

Bastard fits most, along with the appropriate adjectives (little, smug, insolent, lazy, etc). Standard female references if there's a need to emasculate (bitch, twat, cunt, pussyboy, etc).

It's rare that I use the latter, because I am drawn to masculinity.

Oh, I like pussyboy. I will need to add that to my repertoire.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 8:12:40 PM   
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Oh, I like pussyboy. I will need to add that to my repertoire.


Pussyboy likes you too. You seem to be a perfect fit for each other.

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