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Lucylastic -> RE: Feminists Condone PC Rape (11/20/2015 6:40:44 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
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ORIGINAL: Tkman117
...but beliefs that women are superior is not a liberal philosophy, it's more akin to those of which are held by conservatives.
I don't recall anywhere above reading that "women are superior" as being central to the working definition of feminism.
but as to the part of your post I left quoted---see if you learned from the first time around: excuse me...what?
and while im here---there are ~92 different types/strains of "feminism"---the description you provided is a very good one that is shared by a great number of people on the right. the rest of them however, are firmly outside of conservative/libertarian thought.
List of conservative feminisms
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Some feminisms are considered more conservative than others.[1][2][3]
Because almost any feminism can have a conservative element, this list does not attempt to list feminisms simply with conservative elements. Instead, this list is of feminisms that are primarily conservative.
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1 List
2 See also
3 Notes
4 References
5 Further reading
5.1 Books
5.2 Articles
5.3 Blogs
List[edit]
This list may include organizations or individuals where a conservative feminism is more readily identified that way, but is primarily a list of feminisms per se. Generally, organizations and people related to a feminism should not be in this list but should be found by following links to articles about various feminisms with which such organizations and people are associated.
backlash feminism: see new conservative feminism in this list
balanced feminism: see right-wing feminism in this list
conservative feminism (in addition to various feminisms in this list and that are conservative):
Katherine Kersten objects "that in many of their endeavors women continue to face greater obstacles to their success than men do",[4] thus acknowledging that sexism exists,[5] and does not reject feminism entirely but draws on a classical feminist tradition and draws on, e.g., Margaret Fuller.[6] Kersten advocates for conservative feminism based on equality and justice defined alike for women and men and acknowledgment of historical and present injustice suffered by women.[6] She also advocates building on Western ideals and institutions, with reform pursued slowly and cautiously and accepting that human failings mean that perfection is unattainable.[6] Her concerns include crime and violence against women, cultural popular media's degradation of women, noncommittal sex, and poverty's feminization,[6] but opposing affirmative action and class action litigation.[7]
Sarah Palin "made her case for conservative feminism" in 2010, at a meeting of the Susan B. Anthony List.[8]
Richard A. Posner "suggest" "'conservative feminism' .... is ... the idea that women are entitled to political, legal, social, and economic equality to men, in the framework of a lightly regulated market economy."[9] Posner tentatively argues for taxing housewives' at-home unpaid work to reduce a barrier to paid outside work[10] (argued by D. Kelly Weisberg to be rooted in a Marxist feminist argument for waged housework)[11] and argues for sex being a factor in setting wages and benefits in accordance with productivity, health costs with pregnancy, on-the-job safety, and longevity for pensions.[12] Posner is against comparable worth among private employers,[13] against no-fault divorce,[14] for surrogate motherhood by binding contract,[15] against rape even in the form of nonviolent sex,[16] and for a possibility that pornography may either incite rape or substitute for it.[17] Posner does not argue for or against an abortion right, arguing instead for a possibility but not a certainty that the fetus is "a member of society"[18] because libertarianism and economics do not say one way or the other.[19][a][c][d] Posner argues that the differences between the genders on average include women's lesser aggressiveness and greater child-centeredness[20] and has "no quarrel" with law being empathetic to "all marginal groups".[21]
domestic feminism: see old conservative feminism in this list
equity feminism
individualist feminism was cast to appeal to "younger women ... of a more conservative generation"[22] and includes concepts from Rene Denfeld and Naomi Wolf, essentially that "feminism should no longer be about communal solutions to communal problems but individual solutions to individual problems",[22] and concepts from Wendy McElroy
Evangelical Protestant Christian profeminism ("Karen .... articulates the Evangelical [Protestant] profeminist position particularly well. Like profeminist Catholics and Jews, she feels that the women's liberation movement was a necessary response to the oppression of women. She praises the achievements of feminism in society as well as in Evangelical communities and insists that sexism persists and that further changes are necessary. Yet Karen, too, criticizes the movement for seeking to eliminate gender differences, devaluing motherhood and homemaking, and being led by extremists who do not represent ordinary American women, particularly with respect to the issues of homosexuality and abortion. Her comments on the latter two issues ... resemble ... closely the statements made by antifeminist Evangelicals.")[23]
National Woman's Party, in the U.S., was led by Alice Paul, described as "[articulating a] narrow and conservative version of feminism".[24]
new conservative feminism,[25] or backlash feminism,[e] is arguably antifeminist[26] and is represented by Betty Friedan in The Second Stage and Jean Bethke Elshtain in Public Man, Private Woman and anticipated by Alice Rossi, A Biosocial Perspective on Parenting.[27] These authors do not necessarily agree with each other on all major points.[28] According to Judith Stacey,[29] new conservative feminism rejects the politicization of sexuality, supports families, gender differentiation, femininity, and mothering, and deprioritizes opposition to male domination.
old conservative feminism or domestic feminism, from the 19th century[30]
postfeminism
right-wing feminism,[31] or balanced feminism,[32] includes the work of Independent Women's Forum, Feminists for Life of America, and ifeminists.net headed by Wendy McElroy. It generally draws on principles of first-wave feminism[33] and against both postfeminism and academic or radical feminism,[34] the latter being defined to include left and progressive politics, not only feminism based on gender oppression.[35] Right-wing feminism supports both motherhood and women having careers[36] and both individuality and biological determinism;[37] it accepts gender equality in careers while believing that numerical equality will naturally not occur in all occupations.[38]
state feminism
Womansurge: see Women's Equity Action League in this list
Women's Equity Action League (WEAL) was formed originally by some of the more conservative members of the National Organization for Women (NOW), when NOW was viewed as radical.[39][40] The members who founded WEAL focused on employment and education, and shunned issues of contraception and abortion.[39] Its founders called it a "'conservative NOW'".[40] Its methods were "conventional", especially lobbying and lawsuits.[40] The departures from NOW left NOW freer to pursue reproductive freedom and the Equal Rights Amendment.[40] "[T]he fragmentation process, as organizations broke up and reformed, .... retained women within the movement who might otherwise have left it. This is what happened in the case of NOW, when it split up over internal divisions, and new feminism was nevertheless able to retain the most conservative elements through the formation of WEAL. At first, in fact, WEAL called itself the 'right wing of the women's movement.' Another NOW spinoff, Womansurge, tended to attract older women, who felt more comfortable in it than in NOW, which was becoming more politically radical under the influence of a new younger generation of militants."[41]
I love it when wikipedia can send you off with something to learn. in cut and paste form. soo easy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conservative_feminisms
I would share with you information on libertarian feminism, but your poor head might explode.
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