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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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...why people seem to be so quick to kill and even in the gun threads no one seems to really want to address that.

Good point - though it takes us into deeper territory than people are used to re guns.
Do people have an especial fondness for killing in the USA? If so, why?

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I don't think it's a "fondness for killing" at all. Sure, there are some really twisted fucks out there, but I highly doubt the vast majority of killings are done because one enjoys killing.

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I didnt realize anyone was stupid enough to think someone used facebook while carrying an armed attack........ As per normal it didnt take long for me to be proved wrong. My thanks to CD for again showing how creative he can be.

Really? Prove it. Because the mainstream media here made note of it. So bring forth your source that says she did not.

If you're referring to minutiae like "well, she did pledge her allegiance but it wasn't during the attack, it was during the episode" or "she didn't pledge allegiance, only her support and that was just to the group's leader", then you're full of shit.

Tashfeen Malik, 27, vowed her support for the terror group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, on the site at around 11 a.m. Wednesday just as the first 911 calls were made by workers at the attacked Southern California facility.

The message, later scrubbed by Facebook for violating its code of conduct, was posted under a different name
http://nypost.com/2015/12/04/killer-wife-in-california-massacre-swore-allegiance-to-isis/

The woman who helped her husband kill 14 people at holiday party in California praised the leader of the Islamic State group in a Facebook post just minutes into the attack.
A Facebook executive told The Associated Press that Tashfeen Malik posted the material under an alias account at 11 a.m. Wednesday. That was about the time the first 911 calls came in and when the couple were believed to have stormed into the San Bernardino social service center and opened fire.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/latest-relative-shooter-bad-person-not-radical-135655071.html

The woman, Tashfeen Malik, declared allegiance to the Islamic State on Facebook at roughly the time of the shooting on Wednesday, a Facebook spokesman said. At a news conference in San Bernardino, David Bowdich, the F.B.I. assistant director in charge of the Los Angeles office, said he was aware of the post, which was taken down by Facebook on Wednesday, but he would not elaborate.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/us/tashfeen-malik-islamic-state.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I can use my car keys as a weapon, I prefer my .45.

Why would you prefer your .45? Could it be that guns make much better weapons?

Can we finally ditch this 'Oh everything can be used as a weapon - why not cut off our fists, too?' argument? I know gunsters love it - but that doesn't stop it being possibly the most stupid I've heard (and that's up against some really stiff opposition for stupid pro-gun arguments).

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I didnt realize anyone was stupid enough to think someone used facebook while carrying an armed attack........ As per normal it didnt take long for me to be proved wrong. My thanks to CD for again showing how creative he can be.

Really? Prove it. Because the mainstream media here made note of it. So bring forth your source that says she did not.

If you're referring to minutiae like "well, she did pledge her allegiance but it wasn't during the attack, it was during the episode" or "she didn't pledge allegiance, only her support and that was just to the group's leader", then you're full of shit.

Tashfeen Malik, 27, vowed her support for the terror group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, on the site at around 11 a.m. Wednesday just as the first 911 calls were made by workers at the attacked Southern California facility.

The message, later scrubbed by Facebook for violating its code of conduct, was posted under a different name
http://nypost.com/2015/12/04/killer-wife-in-california-massacre-swore-allegiance-to-isis/

The woman who helped her husband kill 14 people at holiday party in California praised the leader of the Islamic State group in a Facebook post just minutes into the attack.
A Facebook executive told The Associated Press that Tashfeen Malik posted the material under an alias account at 11 a.m. Wednesday. That was about the time the first 911 calls came in and when the couple were believed to have stormed into the San Bernardino social service center and opened fire.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/latest-relative-shooter-bad-person-not-radical-135655071.html

The woman, Tashfeen Malik, declared allegiance to the Islamic State on Facebook at roughly the time of the shooting on Wednesday, a Facebook spokesman said. At a news conference in San Bernardino, David Bowdich, the F.B.I. assistant director in charge of the Los Angeles office, said he was aware of the post, which was taken down by Facebook on Wednesday, but he would not elaborate.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/us/tashfeen-malik-islamic-state.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

I see in a later post you changed the goalpost and claimed you were talking about "the whole episode".

I pulled you on what you actually said, because.......... thats what you fucking said....

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A guy that went from Baltimore to NYC and murdered 2 officers (last year? Earlier this year?) tweeted his intentions beforehand.

The guy that killed the news crew a while back was using social media at the time. Even uploaded the graphic video as he made his getaway. So it really isn't so farfetched that terrorists would do the same.

Have you touched a recent model of a smartphone, Tweeka?

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...why people seem to be so quick to kill and even in the gun threads no one seems to really want to address that.

Good point - though it takes us into deeper territory than people are used to re guns.

Do people have an especial fondness for killing in the USA? If so, why?

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I don't think it's a "fondness for killing" at all. Sure, there are some really twisted fucks out there, but I highly doubt the vast majority of killings are done because one enjoys killing.

I'd be more persuaded, DS, were it not for the fact that the USA not only loves its guns, but also seems to love its capital punishments. From the outside, to me - and I suspect to a lot of non-Americans - there are frequent and quite visceral shocks at the numbers of people who get killed ("righteously" or otherwise) in the USA and the way Americans seem to take all such killings in their stride. I'm not just talking about lefties in the UK who get shocked in this way. I'm talking about everybody here, right across the political spectrum. The USA looks very, *very* unusual in the way it puts up with killing, to us in Europe and probably Aus and NZ, too.

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Perhaps if you folks in Europe and probably Aus and NZ too really understood how life is over here you wouldn't think it so unusual. But it is obvious from your posts that you really don't.

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I don't think it's a "fondness for killing" at all. Sure, there are some really twisted fucks out there, but I highly doubt the vast majority of killings are done because one enjoys killing.

I'd be more persuaded, DS, were it not for the fact that the USA not only loves its guns, but also seems to love its capital punishments. From the outside, to me - and I suspect to a lot of non-Americans - there are frequent and quite visceral shocks at the numbers of people who get killed ("righteously" or otherwise) in the USA and the way Americans seem to take all such killings in their stride. I'm not just talking about lefties in the UK who get shocked in this way. I'm talking about everybody here, right across the political spectrum. The USA looks very, *very* unusual in the way it puts up with killing, to us in Europe and probably Aus and NZ, too.

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No, I didn't claim that, you liar. I explained that I meant the whole episode. Saying it occurred during the attacks...even though that's what all three accounts--including FACEBOOKS OWN account--said...was giving a squirrel like you too much of a nut to play with.

Funny...I've yet to see your source denying that she did this. Or was it just the semantics that got you all fired up because you couldn't bear the truth of her pledge?

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Perhaps if you folks in Europe and probably Aus and NZ too really understood how life is over here you wouldn't think it so unusual. But it is obvious from your posts that you really don't.

What, if I understood life there better, I'd learn to like all the killing? Nup. Not likely.

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No, you would learn that they don't love killing any more than people in other countries do, but maybe I am giving you too much credit?

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
No, you would learn that they don't love killing any more than people in other countries do, but maybe I am giving you too much credit?

Oh come on, THB. You yourself brought up the subject of people wanting to kill each other and how people ignore it on gun threads. Surely you can do better than your tired old usual of 'lefties and non-Americans get it all wrong'? It won't hurt you to venture at least an idea, will it?

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We have an entire generation that has been told that nothing they do it their fault.

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And I think they may be teaching the next generation the same thing Bama, except it will probably find a way to be worse.

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In Mississippi it’s a crime to carry a concealed deadly weapon. The term “deadly weapon” includes switchblade knives, dirks, bowie knives, stilettos, blackjacks, slingshots, pistols, rifles with a barrel length of less than 16 inches, shotguns with a barrel length of less than 18 inches, firearms silencers, and automatic firearms.

However, it isn’t a crime to carry a concealed deadly weapon if the holder has concealed weapons permit. (See Open and Concealed Gun Carry Laws in Mississippi for more information.)

It’s also not a crime for people to carry a concealed deadly weapon while in their home, place of business, or vehicle; or when participating in, or travelling to or from, a sport shooting activity.

Concealment of a deadly weapon in Mississippi is a misdemeanor or felony offense, depending on the circumstances.

(Mississippi Code section 97-37-1)

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We have an entire generation that has been told that nothing they do it their fault.

One generation? You've had lots of generations of gun-manufacturers and their supporters.