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Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 12:11:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

a lil diddy my wife just sang to me

My God's bigger than your God, My God's bigger than yours, My God's bigger, My God's better, My God's bigger than yourrrrs .. *chuckles ... probably best to just be atheist nowadays


Yes indeed, but since we are a minority its best for us to choose wisely who we surround our selves with. That's why I moved to America, separation of state and church even though conservatives can't seem to grasp that concept.. Since 911 our whole attitude has changed towards the obvious and very real threats. We got a Muslim apologist in office and it's only a matter of time to where a real Muslim is in office. Our constitution will change to sharia law which already is making headlines here in Texas. They have no interest in our way of life they won't assimilate. Practicing any form of law besides fedaral or state law is unconstitutional! Yet sharia law is practiced in mosques around the country on a daily basis. Why should I care about people that don't? Their religion is impressive to basic human rights and simply does not mesh well with the western world. Nothing will change that.




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 12:24:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Islamophobia works on the stupid quite well, especially people who haven't read the koran or the bible, or even compared them, when it comes to violence the koran has NOTHING on the bible...


the violence you refer to in the bible is the historical record of the old testament; they are not the prescription by which Christians today are admonished to live. to my knowledge, the same cannot be said about the Koran, where explicit commandments involving "violence" are still in practice today.

liberals are fond of (unjustly & wrongly) accusing Christians of adhering to some parts of the bible while ignoring others. in my experience that is often founded in their, that is the liberals', ignorance of the bible and the difference between the testaments. its happily ironic they are not looking at the moderate muslims and telling them the same thing.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Some people are incapable of learning from history


that, is a common and extremely well deserved criticism by conservatives of liberals.

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Islamophobia


whatever liberals don't like--they attach a name to it to turn it into a pejorative. unfortunately, when they do that, since they tend to see everything in terms of race, gender, sexual orientation, class, etc, and believe conservatives are racists, sexists, etc, etc, they are incapable of even hearing or understanding the actual legitimate arguments, positions and values the other side has.


This is exactly why I'd rather live amongst Christians than Muslims! Even though I get called all kinds of names for my non belief at times I don't risk a beheading. Christians have evolved! To throw out a single instance of Christian extremism to justify what's going on with Muslims is an idiocracy! How ever much I would like to trust them, looking at the last 1400 year's I simply can not since jihaad is still practiced to this day on a daily basis. What Christians did to Europe's pagan religions and the American Indians I can't condone but at least the vast majority has changed its ways. Muslims still live in the dark ages.




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 12:42:03 PM)

Have you read both books?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
And to be fair... You should know that most of the violence is in the old testament not the new one... Old testament = pre jesus new = Jesus... Also you must note that no Christian or Jewish nation still bases their laws on the old or new testament. What form of law is practiced in Muslim nations?




LadyConstanze -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 1:08:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Islamophobia works on the stupid quite well, especially people who haven't read the koran or the bible, or even compared them, when it comes to violence the koran has NOTHING on the bible...


the violence you refer to in the bible is the historical record of the old testament; they are not the prescription by which Christians today are admonished to live. to my knowledge, the same cannot be said about the Koran, where explicit commandments involving "violence" are still in practice today.

liberals are fond of (unjustly & wrongly) accusing Christians of adhering to some parts of the bible while ignoring others. in my experience that is often founded in their, that is the liberals', ignorance of the bible and the difference between the testaments. its happily ironic they are not looking at the moderate muslims and telling them the same thing.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Some people are incapable of learning from history


that, is a common and extremely well deserved criticism by conservatives of liberals.

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Islamophobia


whatever liberals don't like--they attach a name to it to turn it into a pejorative. unfortunately, when they do that, since they tend to see everything in terms of race, gender, sexual orientation, class, etc, and believe conservatives are racists, sexists, etc, etc, they are incapable of even hearing or understanding the actual legitimate arguments, positions and values the other side has.


This is exactly why I'd rather live amongst Christians than Muslims! Even though I get called all kinds of names for my non belief at times I don't risk a beheading. Christians have evolved! To throw out a single instance of Christian extremism to justify what's going on with Muslims is an idiocracy! How ever much I would like to trust them, looking at the last 1400 year's I simply can not since jihaad is still practiced to this day on a daily basis. What Christians did to Europe's pagan religions and the American Indians I can't condone but at least the vast majority has changed its ways. Muslims still live in the dark ages.



That's why on this side of the pond there are mental asylums for people like you, shame that Saint Ronny closed them down and you are still allowed to roam wild. Luckily you don't amount to much, the rabid rabble who hates everybody because they never had education and need to look down on somebody even lower on the scale (or who they thought was lower on the scale) was always there throughout history. History hasn't changed much, hope somebody gives you bread and games to make you feel better, you are obviously in sore need of it, though you could always get viagra.

You just have NO idea about society, but it's not your fault, I wouldn't expect somebody who never learned basic things to be able to handle cutlery or move among people who don't raid bins for a living. I really pity you, your life must be very very one dimensional. Try to look up the history of Christianity (libraries are free, so is the internet, so it shouldn't put you out of pocket), burning people for saying the earth is not the center of the universe, torturing people to admit to "consorting with the devil" so the church could confiscate their belongings... Holy Inquisition rings a bell? People targeting funerals in the name of Christ....

Read the bible? Read the OT? Yeah, Christianity mellowed a lotm had to to survive, Islam is 600 years younger, go back 600 years in the history of Christianity and you find barbarism and slaughter like you can't imagine. A few extremists support ISIS, a few extremists support the Westboro Baptist Church, the majority of Muslims is peaceful, apparently the fact that ISIS killed mostly Muslims and isn't popular amongst Muslims completely escaped you, I don't blame you, you obviously lack the education and IQ to process information.

Yes I have read both books, I happened to invite a Muslim girl to share my house a while ago and we had plenty of discussions about religion and read both books, you should try it, reading I mean. It honestly doesn't hurt.




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 1:19:33 PM)

Ladyconstaze,

If you're trying to reply to my comment which I believe you areh I must inform you that my phone is no longer accepting post from misguided children. I wish you the best of luck in your futile attempts of attempting to degrade others. I am no longer listening. Bye bye now!




MariaB -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 1:53:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

OK you still haven't given me an example of where Christians have killed Muslims simply because they are Muslim
...

There ya go, something very recent https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/tens-of-thousands-of-muslims-flee-christian-militias-in-central-african-republic/2014/02/07/5a1adbb2-9032-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_story.html
and http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/un-muslims-ethnically-cleansed-car-2015196546788288.html

and a snippet from our history books:
Emperor Alexius asked Pope Urban II for assistance. On 1095-NOV-27, the Pope called on Europeans to go on a crusade to liberate Jerusalem from its Muslim rulers. "The first and second wave of Crusaders murdered, raped and plundered their way up the Rhine and down the Danube as they headed for Jerusalem." 1 The "army" was primarily composed of untrained peasants with their families, with a core of trained soldiers. On the way to the Middle East, they decided that only one of their goals was to wrest control of Jerusalem from the Muslims. A secondary task was to rid the world of as many non-Christians as possible - both Muslims and Jews. The Crusaders gave the Jews two choices in their slogan: "Christ-killers, embrace the Cross or die!" 12,000 Jews in the Rhine Valley alone were killed as the first Crusade passed through. Some Jewish writers refer to these events as the "first holocaust." Once the army reached Jerusalem and broke through the city walls, they slaughtered all the inhabitants that they could find (men, women, children, newborns). After locating about 6,000 Jews holed up in the synagogue, they set the building on fire; the Jews were burned alive. The Crusaders found that about 30,000 Muslims had fled to the al Aqsa Mosque. The Muslim were also slaughtered without mercy. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_cru1.htm




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 2:16:27 PM)

How did Jerusalem become Muslim ruled? I thought it was Jewish first! Yes war was brutal back then but it was a defensive war. The crusades were to protect and defend Christians in the holy Land from Muslims. Regardless I was talking about in recent history lets say the past 100 years for staters... When have Christians raped, beheaded or fine anything to muslims? I urge you to watch the video I posted a link to it will put things into perspective. It talks about the crusades and all. And please don't ever use the crusades to justify jihad it shows you have no real knowledge of history and what the crusades were actually about....




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 2:20:34 PM)

Both those are about the same instance in africa! Not a western nation... And I must add that the Muslims invaded africa just as they did the middle East. Muslims originated in the Arabian peninsula remember?




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 2:27:03 PM)

Let's compare shall we?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/christianattacks.htm




MariaB -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 2:54:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

How did Jerusalem become Muslim ruled? I thought it was Jewish first! Yes war was brutal back then but it was a defensive war. The crusades were to protect and defend Christians in the holy Land from Muslims. Regardless I was talking about in recent history lets say the past 100 years for staters... When have Christians raped, beheaded or fine anything to muslims? I urge you to watch the video I posted a link to it will put things into perspective. It talks about the crusades and all. And please don't ever use the crusades to justify jihad it shows you have no real knowledge of history and what the crusades were actually about....


If I say black, you will say white. You think you have an answer to everything...time to accept you simply don't!
We don't know what the Christians did to these people but we do know they were particularly brutal and they did commit rape and mass murder against Muslims.




MariaB -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:00:58 PM)

And lets take a look at Iraq and Afghanistan because although we don't believe Iraq and Afghanistan was a Christian crusade, you can bet the Muslims living there believe it was. What we see is a war on terror, what they see is 4 million dead Muslims killed by the Christian west.




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:03:47 PM)

Well Reding that list I posted it doesn't surprise me at all that Christian controlled CAR had enough of Muslims... So you're saying that Muslims taking over the holy Land destroying their temple and killing thousands of Jews was OK but not when Christians came to defend Christians? You make a lot of sense buddy...




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:07:44 PM)

Again how many did they kill when Muslims crawled out of Arabia and conquered iraq and Afghanistan or any other country that wasn't theirs in the first place? The crusade in the iraq region was launched again in defense against Muslims slaughtering Christians in the region! How dense are you?




BamaD -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:13:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

And lets take a look at Iraq and Afghanistan because although we don't believe Iraq and Afghanistan was a Christian crusade, you can bet the Muslims living there believe it was. What we see is a war on terror, what they see is 4 million dead Muslims killed by the Christian west.

They make it about religion, we don't, that means that while thier actions can be asscribed to their religious beliefs ours cannot, no matter how bad they want to believe it.




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:14:45 PM)

Oh sorry you mean the oppressive regimes we toppled in order to bring democracy and some form of civilized life? You mean the one where America had enough? The one after 9/11? Or when Saddam invaded Kuwait? I think Kuwaitis and people that had to live under that oppressive fuck are quite thankful. The problem is we didn't see it through like we did with Germany. Again letting them come to our country is not going to solve that mentality you mentioned! And thanks for confirming what I've been saying all along Muslims can't get over history they want revenge for the crusades which they them selves caused with their religion of Peace!




Termyn8or -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:15:33 PM)

Religion has been poisoning this planet for way too long.

T^T




Cuckingcurious -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 3:31:34 PM)

I completely agree... Can't wait till every one is an atheist! Sadly that won't happen in my lifetime. The world would be alot more peaceful that's for sure.




thompsonx -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 4:35:20 PM)

ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

How did Jerusalem become Muslim ruled? I thought it was Jewish first!



I am pretty sure the history books will dispute your imagination.





thompsonx -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 4:43:50 PM)


ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

Oh sorry you mean the oppressive regimes we toppled in order to bring democracy and some form of civilized life?

The usa started out as thirteen states hugging the eastern seaboard...Which part of amerika did the usa not acquire by force of arms or the threat there of?



You mean the one where America had enough?

Enough of what>

The one after 9/11?


The facts are that the folks who are accused of 9/11 were our allies or did you not know that?

Or when Saddam invaded Kuwait?

Kuwait is and has been for quite some time part of iraq or did you not know that either?

I think Kuwaitis and people that had to live under that oppressive fuck are quite thankful. The problem is we didn't see it through like we did with Germany.

Do you really think the usa defeated germany? Have you ever read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?






thompsonx -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/19/2015 4:45:00 PM)


ORIGINAL: Cuckingcurious

I completely agree... Can't wait till every one is an atheist! Sadly that won't happen in my lifetime. The world would be alot more peaceful that's for sure.

Why is a self proclaimed athiest using religion to justify anything?[8|]




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