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Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 1:51:04 PM   
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I recently discovered my Dom husband of 25 years who is faithful to me has been secretly being an online bull and is active in cuckold communities online. I don't know what to make of this. He is very jealous and has never wanted to be with another woman or in any kind of three way. But it appears he likes the idea of acting like a cuckhold bull online. Can anyone advise me?
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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 1:54:25 PM   
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You need to:

1) Have an honest conversation without accusations to find out exactly what is happening.

and...

2) Figure out if you feel that online is being unfaithful to your relationship. If you do feel that way, you're going to need to make some heavy decisions about your relationship.

That's the best I can do. The hard work is going to fall on the two of you.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 2:08:00 PM   
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Thank you. All insights would be appreciated still so please give your 2 cents if you have a minute.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 4:31:04 PM   
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How do you feel about this?

Why is he only interested in being with another woman if it humiliates another man? Are you okay with that?
Are you sure he is only interested in online? Have you talked to him about this or did you discover it without him telling you?

Figure out what you feel about this.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 4:33:13 PM   
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Did you find this out by accident?

If so, what else don't you know about? Once people start shit like this - the rabbit hole can go on forever.
I'd go get std tested if I were you. Hes not honest so you can't believe him even if you did ask him.
Just make sure you keep YOUR health in tact.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 4:56:46 PM   
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I found out by accident and then looked at his posts and comments. I may be wrong but my initial thoughts are he wants to fantasize only about being with other women, dominate them to "be a manly Dom" and humiliate the men to feel more power. He has always had a problem with online porn and chatting but this is breaking my heart. Yet he's been happier with me lately than ever and our sex is outstanding. Is he embarrassed? Afraid or ashamed I'll judge him? He knows the online shit kills me and he's almost lost me recently over online chatting. There's so much involved. I'm summing up as best as possible.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 5:29:24 PM   
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Oh and I would love to find out his password so I could see exactly what he's doing in PM's. Anyone an expert hacker here?? Seriously! I'm desperate to find out what I'm actually dealing with here.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 5:29:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Confusedsub64

I found out by accident and then looked at his posts and comments. I may be wrong but my initial thoughts are he wants to fantasize only about being with other women, dominate them to "be a manly Dom" and humiliate the men to feel more power. He has always had a problem with online porn and chatting but this is breaking my heart. Yet he's been happier with me lately than ever and our sex is outstanding. Is he embarrassed? Afraid or ashamed I'll judge him? He knows the online shit kills me and he's almost lost me recently over online chatting. There's so much involved. I'm summing up as best as possible.


He's sucking up cause he knows he's been busted. Embarrassed? He SHOULD feel like a jerk, ashamed and guilty as hell for looking for sexual entertainment with other people either online or wherever behind your back if that's not the deal between you two. I'm going to go ahead and assume it's NOT just by you posting this in the first place.

And you should judge him. Why wouldn't you? He's jeopardizing your trust, security and whatever positive feelings you have for him.
If he's already almost lost you over online shit & now it's escalated to this - and yeah this is worse than chatting, then he obviously doesn't give.a.shit. Otherwise he would of knocked it off.

Im thinking he damn well knows he can do anything and you aren't going to leave. Youre what is considered all bark and no bite.
A doormat.

By reading this last post - you are putting his fragile feelings above yours - are you kidding me?
Stay if you want, but he's going to kiss your ass temporarily and just continue because he knows you're not going anywhere.


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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 6:20:46 PM   
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He doesn't know he's busted yet. I'm still sleuthing to try to find the extent of whatever he's doing. I think he doesn't see it as cheating... many don't. But I do and he knows it. I'm trying to figure out what to do. I wish I had his password.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 7:41:15 PM   
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Tell him you found out. Demand his password or it's over immediately.

But be prepared to end it if you find out that he has been having sex with strange women.

Since this is an ongoing problem you need to see a marriage counselor. And a divorce lawyer so you know what your options are should you need to call it quits.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/19/2015 7:46:47 PM   
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You're generous. I wouldn't even give him the chance to explain himself. 25 years of marriage and he doesn't think you're worth the truth.

Hear that? YOU'RE NOT WORTH A CONVERSATION to him.

Let that sink in.

Get a lawyer and start proceedings. Serve his coward bitch ass.


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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 12:49:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Confusedsub64

Oh and I would love to find out his password so I could see exactly what he's doing in PM's. Anyone an expert hacker here?? Seriously! I'm desperate to find out what I'm actually dealing with here.

You want to sneak around, steal his password, and spy on him? Seriously?

Yeah, no.

K.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 1:12:03 AM   
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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 1:16:04 AM   
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*runs in panting* Has anyone called shenanigans yet?

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 1:54:58 AM   
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You really dont wanna find his password. Believe me. If you go looking, what you find may destroy you completely.
While you may get the unvarnished truth about his "cheating" you are only going to punish yourself, PLUS he is gonna counter accuse you of spying, lying, and sneaking into his"personal stuff"
WHIle you can use his personal stuff in a divorce, personally I would cut losses and walk. Even after 25 years.
Have you thought that his focus may not be ....just fucking the chick, but the fact that he is being watched by another bloke?
Im not suggesting that is true for anyone in cuckold relationships, but its just a thought.
My computer, phone and purse is off limits to everyone but me.. my husbands computer, phone and wallet are just as private to him. Even before cell phones and chat rooms.
You need to decide what you want and need, but if he cant tell you the truth, you are lost, will you trust him if he does tell you the truth.
how m uch truth will be enough for you to take a stand?





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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 2:52:44 AM   
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Unless he is actually physically involved offline with others then treat it has his hobby interest. You snoop on you're husband obviously.What would be you're reaction if he was snooping on you? Are you denying him physical intimacy? A man needs to exercise his genitals regularly for prostate health and to enjoy the bumps and curves of the female body. You should sit down with him and ask him without causing argument. Why do you need strangers help? Advancing age can change are needs. Perhaps you are less interested in sexual intimacy now. Unless illness decreases libido and a man cannot get erect he will always want to exercise his genitalia be he 13 are 93. You are his woman so tender to his needs and vice versa. Stop snooping and start Shagging.

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 3:28:46 AM   
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What utter bullshit, chattelmansub sock!!

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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 4:49:58 AM   
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I'm not sure I'm buying this in the way it's being presented.

He recently almost 'lost you' because of online chatting/porn viewing. Evidently, it wasn't that big of a deal to him because now you've "recently" discovered he's now into being an online bull. (Gee, you'd think somebody would at least have been more careful if it was going to cost a 25 year marriage, so that shows the lack of value there.) It was a big deal to you, so you went looking. (Obvious lack of trust.) Confirmed that something was up. Now, you wish you had his passwords so you could find out the extent...

This is the person you want to be submissive to? The person you don't trust.

I'm sure the sex is great lately. He's having sex with his fantasy in his head. You just happen to be the warm body. Now, that's cool if that's what you want and find it acceptable. If it is and it doesn't bother you that this huge amount of deception is going on, have a great time. Right up until the next time he's doing something that you know he's not coming clean about. (You might want to seriously consider Janah's suggestion about the STD test and plan on doing them every six months.)

You think he needs to feel "more powerful" by engaging in humiliating other men online? Not enough power and control with the submissive he's lived with for 25 years? I'm not buying that. You won't know that until you actually talk to him. Don't be surprised if that's not the only possible answer because combined with what might be sex/porn addiction, it sounds like his own feelings of lack of power/control.

I'm thinking you guys need a serious talk where you start being honest with each other and cut the BS. You might want to consider that some marriage counseling would be a good idea because this isn't going to go well if it's left unresolved.


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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 5:34:58 AM   
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I just want to say, really sorry to hear you are going through all this. 25 years is a very long time together. I see some super human folks say just walk away from it, and that's it! But I believe for most ordinary human beings, 25 years relationship, isn't something you just walk out of. Something was working great to have lasted so long.

But the issue is the inability to be transparent and total honest with each other after so long together. And you need to find a way to have a heart to heart talk. Tell him you can't trust him anymore unless he comes clean on what's going on, surrender his password to you on the spot and let you look what his been up to. I think you should at least find out exactly what is going on, before you decide to walk or work with him about it.

If he gets defensive, upset, refuses to show you, then you have a difficult decision to make, you can simply tell him, you can't trust him anymore, and you can't be with someone you can't trust, and his not willing to show you, that you have nothing to worry about.

You mentioned you used to get upset with him about online stuffs in the past, so..., did he promise to stop and carried it on behind your back? And frankly speaking, if this is so, moving forward, if you want to continue, you may have to decide if you can tolerate some of these in his life, because even if he promised not to do it again, clearly, his addicted to it enough to do it behind your back. I don't know if he can stop.



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RE: Please answer I need help. - 12/20/2015 6:07:21 AM   
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I just want to say, really sorry to hear you are going through all this. 25 years is a very long time together. I see some super human folks say just walk away from it, and that's it! But I believe for most ordinary human beings, 25 years relationship, isn't something you just walk out of. Something was working great to have lasted so long.

My OH walked out of her 15 year marriage because her partner at the time was being an ass.
Early one Sunday morning, he said something that just broke the camel's back.
She just packed a bag and walked out on him with barely a word said; that was 8 years ago.

I think most people stay with their marriage because they trust each other and in general are safe, reliable, stable, and to a certain degree, predictable.
If your very foundation for the relationship has crumbled or been severely undermined, as per OP's posts, it is very easy to just walk away.
And like most people that walk out - it's not usually over a one-time event but an accumulation of things.

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But the issue is the inability to be transparent and total honest with each other after so long together. And you need to find a way to have a heart to heart talk.

This is the issue - if we are to believe what OP is telling us.
Her partner has effectively been unfaithful (in her eyes) after 25 years of monogamous trust.
Not just the once, but many times and continues to do so behind her back.
That's one helluva trust wall to be willfully wrecking into oblivion.

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Tell him you can't trust him anymore unless he comes clean on what's going on, surrender his password to you on the spot and let you look what his been up to. I think you should at least find out exactly what is going on, before you decide to walk or work with him about it.

This is not good advice.
It's like opening a can of worms. You cannot 'unsee' what you have seen.

In our relationship here, we are 100% completely transparent.
She can look at what I do and vice-versa; we have no secrets.
But we don't go looking out of respect for each others' space and privacy.
And that's where complete trust in each other comes in - the trust that neither of us will overstep the boundaries or find the need to go looking.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
If he gets defensive, upset, refuses to show you, then you have a difficult decision to make, you can simply tell him, you can't trust him anymore, and you can't be with someone you can't trust, and his not willing to show you, that you have nothing to worry about.

The fact that she has found out what she has so far and it has freaked her out is more than enough to be worried about.
The sheer fact that her partner hasn't even broached the subject of his indiscretions is showing that he is not even thinking about her. As Pandora said, she doesn't even warrant a conversation about it.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
You mentioned you used to get upset with him about online stuffs in the past, so..., did he promise to stop and carried it on behind your back? And frankly speaking, if this is so, moving forward, if you want to continue, you may have to decide if you can tolerate some of these in his life, because even if he promised not to do it again, clearly, his addicted to it enough to do it behind your back. I don't know if he can stop.

I think her partner has already shown that even though he knows it upsets her, he still does it behind her back.
Whether he promised not to do it or not isn't the problem here - it's the abuse of trust.


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