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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/22/2016 3:34:45 PM

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Another good read on how liberals are surpressing science.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/04/climate_alarmism_and_the_muzzling_of_independent_science.html

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/22/2016 10:46:47 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-settled-science-consensus-du-jour/2016/04/22/46acd802-07de-11e6-a12f-ea5aed7958dc_story.html

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/24/2016 2:05:18 PM

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LOL. The nutsuckers are taking your science away.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/24/2016 4:41:34 PM

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I think the interesting thing is that the cost of electricity continues to rise while the cost of oil goes down because the rate payers are providing huge corporate welfare to the green energy.

Gobeldegook is not a language in which I am conversant. You seem to be saying that because of subsidies to green energy the price of oil is going down?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/24/2016 6:52:18 PM

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I think the interesting thing is that the cost of electricity continues to rise while the cost of oil goes down because the rate payers are providing huge corporate welfare to the green energy.

Gobeldegook is not a language in which I am conversant. You seem to be saying that because of subsidies to green energy the price of oil is going down?

No, he's saying that the average price of green renewable energy is 6 x the cost of fossil fuel energy. With the exception of hydro power, of course.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/24/2016 6:55:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
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I think the interesting thing is that the cost of electricity continues to rise while the cost of oil goes down because the rate payers are providing huge corporate welfare to the green energy.

Gobeldegook is not a language in which I am conversant. You seem to be saying that because of subsidies to green energy the price of oil is going down?

No, he's saying that the average price of green renewable energy is 6 x the cost of fossil fuel energy. With the exception of hydro power, of course.

Yet I have proved to you and your sock drawer that my solar power paid for itself a long time ago and I have been getting free electricity for the past 25 years.
Jesus you and he are sooooo phoquing stupid.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/28/2016 12:15:06 AM

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Temperature fabrication by global warming alarmists.

NOAA 14MSU is an older satellite that has drifted in its orbit, due to atmospheric drag.

NOAA 15MSU is a newer sattelite, in proper orbit, with greater calibration controls. The difference between the two satellites? .2 degrees per decade. from 1980 through 2015. Or more than the observed global warming - something I've alluded to several times

Google "comments on new RSS v4 pause" for article.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 4/28/2016 11:12:36 AM

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Temperature fabrication by global warming alarmists.

NOAA 14MSU is an older satellite that has drifted in its orbit, due to atmospheric drag.

NOAA 15MSU is a newer sattelite, in proper orbit, with greater calibration controls. The difference between the two satellites? .2 degrees per decade. from 1980 through 2015. Or more than the observed global warming - something I've alluded to several times

Google "comments on new RSS v4 pause" for article.

Also, in order to show more warming they are giving more weight to ship engine intake cooling water temperatures, which haven't been calibrated at all and tend to show warmer water.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 7:01:52 PM

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http://breakingenergy.com/2016/05/02/as-germany-curtails-wind-and-solar-billion-euro-grid-projects-help-bring-more-green-power-on-line/

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 7:25:14 PM

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http://breakingenergy.com/2016/05/02/as-germany-curtails-wind-and-solar-billion-euro-grid-projects-help-bring-more-green-power-on-line/

From your cite:

According to a recently updated government report, Germany curtailed about 1,581 gigawatt-hours of green energy in 2014, a threefold increase from curtailments in the previous year. While that’s only about 1.2 percent of the renewable energy eligible for payments,

Someone else has been snorting cordite.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 7:39:00 PM

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Because you're unfamiliar with developments in Germany?

I suggest you google the number of manual interventions into their grid per year over the last few years. The facts are pretty inescapable - although you will succeed in escaping them.

1. Instabilities in Germanies power grid are increasing.
2. Germany is cutting back subsidies for renewables.
3. German CO2 emissions have increased.
4. Germans have introduced a new word for poverty caused by high energy prices

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 8:00:32 PM

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Because you're unfamiliar with developments in Germany?

I suggest you google the number of manual interventions into their grid per year over the last few years. The facts are pretty inescapable - although you will succeed in escaping them.

1. Instabilities in Germanies power grid are increasing.
2. Germany is cutting back subsidies for renewables.
3. German CO2 emissions have increased.
4. Germans have introduced a new word for poverty caused by high energy prices

1.2%
Someone is still snorting cordite.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 10:00:52 PM

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You're just revealing ignorance.

So long as solar/wind dont' exceed baseline consumption, there is zero curtailment. As you exceed consumption
a) the value of the electricity goes negative.
b). The stability of the grid decreases.

Curtailments have at least doubled each of the last three years.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 10:01:53 PM

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So whats your answer, alarmists?

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2016/04/the-state-of-climate-science-no-justification-for-extreme-policies

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 10:05:34 PM

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The only valid answer is that you should probably consider getting your information from less right wing biased sources that have a track record of denying climate change while also having close ties to the oil industry. The Heritage Foundation? Really? How much more disingenuous can you possibly get?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/2/2016 10:19:38 PM

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Well you could do what you do - and attack the messenger, (ie defame Heritage ) while failing to address the issue at all - despite the fact that the same graph in the article was used in Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth. Not to mention more than 216 scientific papers.

So TKMan - I've posted the pretty picture for you. We've had temperature spikes every 100 K years or as far back as icecores go. So whats your explanation for them - certain it can't be man made. So what causes the temperature spikes TKMan?
Hmmm?

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/3/2016 3:37:59 AM

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You're just revealing ignorance.

So long as solar/wind dont' exceed baseline consumption, there is zero curtailment. As you exceed consumption
a) the value of the electricity goes negative.
b). The stability of the grid decreases.

Curtailments have at least doubled each of the last three years.

1.2%
Roflmfao
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/21/2016 9:37:30 AM

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I'd like to point out that, for the solar panels) on that entire land mass needed for the solar panels everything under the panels has to die.

Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Since the panels are installed to catch the sunlight and photosynthesis requires sunlight and the rest of the food chain requires the result of photosynthesis, all of that extra land used is basically denuded of life.

If the google on your computer is working perhaps you might look up those crops that grow in shade. That way you would not look so phoquing stupid when you post this moronic tripe.

Lol

Check the link. Look at the picture and see all of the stuff growing in the shade.

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-largest-solar-plant-just-torched-itself-1777767880

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/21/2016 12:01:38 PM

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Ok, I'm convinced. Let's abolish the EPA and end all regulations regarding the environment. Pollution doesn't exist and besides, profits are more important anyway.

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RE: So.. what moron said... - 5/21/2016 12:07:28 PM

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Ok, I'm convinced. Let's abolish the EPA and end all regulations regarding the environment. Pollution doesn't exist and besides, profits are more important anyway.

And your point is that since you are not intelligent enough, or have enough information, to discuss or argue a point, your best option is to try and ridicule?

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