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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/15/2004 2:44:18 PM   
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hi there abboy4u i am too figureing the same thing the SM life is apart of the baby lifestyle i think so too cuz i think that is how the mommy/dom thinks to treat us like babies again and control everthing we do like the SM world does they like to be controled but the babies like me and you be controled wearing diapers and outfits that we love to wear all the time like i love to do bye for now baby chris.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/15/2004 2:51:59 PM   
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hey there abboy4u i agree i think the same way on this subject me think the SM is apart of the baby lifestyle too cuz that is what mommy/dom wants to do control everything that you do but the differnce is we want to be put in baby clothes again and wear diapers and be loved and cared for like a baby again i just hope there are a few dom/mommies in this place that is looking for a real person to be with and treat them as a baby again bye for now baby chris.




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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/16/2004 7:06:48 AM   
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i have somethings to say here i do not want to make anyone mad but i just do not understand why girls/doms/mommies allways wants a sissy baby instead of a real baby boy like me for instead. I am a nice person i wish people would tell me why we do not get picked they allways want a sissy i do not think that is right there are a few like me that do not want to be a sissy just want to be the baby boy again and we get pasted up i have seen it happen alot over the years i just want to be happy with someone and that person would treat me as a baby boy again bye for now baby chris.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/23/2004 3:58:28 PM   
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hello Maam i just want to be accepted for who i am sometimes i say too much or the wrong things i have a problem with that. I am a nice person just wish people would give me a chance to show that but i am a adult baby that loves to be treated like a baby again please bye chris.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/23/2004 4:23:13 PM   
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The title of the thread is "baby sub or adult sub which gives more?" So far, I've heard about what adult babies want and need. I want to be a baby. I want someone to treat me like a baby as a lifestyle. I want to be treated as my gender and not as a sissy. I want I want I want. . .I need I need I need. That's all cool and dandy. Put your adult thinking cap on for a second and tell me what it is that an adult baby actually *gives* So far it seems like I've seen a list of demands/wants/needs for little or no return.

I'm all for supporting "fringe" lifestyles and fetishes. . .but with comments like
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just do not understand why girls/doms/mommies allways wants a sissy baby instead of a real baby boy like me
you'll probably lose the few supporters that you *do* have.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/23/2004 5:21:31 PM   
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The title of the thread is "baby sub or adult sub which gives more?" So far, I've heard about what adult babies want and need. I want to be a baby. I want someone to treat me like a baby as a lifestyle. I want to be treated as my gender and not as a sissy. I want I want I want. . .I need I need I need. That's all cool and dandy. Put your adult thinking cap on for a second and tell me what it is that an adult baby actually *gives* So far it seems like I've seen a list of demands/wants/needs for little or no return.


You took the words right out of my mouth. I suppose this might be a satisfying lifestyle for some few. But the exchange seems pretty much one-sided.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/24/2004 10:43:55 AM   
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hello Maam the true meaning of the adult baby lifestyle is to be loved and cared for like we were when we were born. There are alot that are in the baby lifestyle cuz of things that happend in are lifes that we did not have when we were that age like me i was born different from normal people so this is how i have found my life it is just being treated as a baby again but we are in adult bodys but people that have not heard or understand the meaning would ask the silly questions. We just want to live are lifes like babies or toodlers again to be loved and cared and treated as a kid again there are alot of us out there that do understand and welling to try to help out and let people understand the true meaning maam baby chris.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/24/2004 10:52:31 AM   
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And you still list what YOU want to do and what YOUR needs are. What does an adult baby GIVE back to the relationship or the D part of a D/s relationship? From the way you put it. . .it seems like the AB is actually the one running the entire show.

It is a non-sequitur how the people because involved in the lifestyle per se. The title of the thread changed to "who gives more?" Gives more what? Grief and headaches? Since YOU indentify as an adult baby. . .what is it that ABs "give?" To put it another way. . .I can see the the benefits of having an adult sub. What are the benefits of a person having a baby sub?

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/24/2004 11:41:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Solaise

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But the exchange seems pretty much one-sided


Solaise

In short I will say maam that an adult baby gives it all!! Complete TPE Maam.
Maam to have the control of your life comletely taken over by a Domme Mommy is no differant than a slave is being taken complete control of except an adult baby doesnt have the pleasures of being an adult they remain a baby to give the Domme Mommy what she wanted when they entered into a DOmme Mommy/baby relationship Maam.
An adult baby would be treated as a baby and have no say so or choice in what they wear,say,eat,where they go,what they do,when they sleep all choices are made by the Domme Mommy.
There is spanking involved to help correct the baby to chastise him from thinking or acting as an adult which would include long term orgasm denial,crossing set boundaries,saying words not allowed to say etc.
The Domme Mommy would have complete control and in any relationship Maam there is always give and take Mam. A baby knows not to asky questions or throw tantrums or they will be punished.
Also in some realtionship the baby is an adult when ever Domme Mommy chooses and they can live an open realtionship in public as a couple but the baby knows at all times they have no control at all and at any time the Domme Mommy can humiliate himand reduce him back to his baby state Maam.
There is also enema training and conditioning and all things in any relationship Maam can an most often would be considered maam.
It is just what the Domme Mommy sets forth in the relationship Maam>
Hope this has helped explain this to some degree Maam.
baby Larry

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/24/2004 12:41:36 PM   
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hello Maam the true meaning of the adult baby lifestyle is to be loved and cared for like we were when we were born. There are alot that are in the baby lifestyle cuz of things that happend in are lifes that we did not have when we were that age like me


This is what I am talking about when I say that this appears to be a very one-sided arrangement. babychris - I bet you got some gnarly nappies. I don't see an exchange in what you are suggesting.

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Also in some realtionship the baby is an adult when ever Domme Mommy chooses and they can live an open realtionship in public as a couple but the baby knows at all times they have no control at all and at any time the Domme Mommy can humiliate himand reduce him back to his baby state Maam.
There is also enema training and conditioning and all things in any relationship Maam can an most often would be considered maam.


This sounds a little bit more like there is some exchange going on. I would find it exceedingly difficult to have a relationship in which there was no adult conversation. That's the problem that I have with this - as a 24/7 arrangement - I think I would burn out on it pretty quickly.

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/24/2004 2:06:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Solaise



I would find it exceedingly difficult to have a relationship in which there was no adult conversation. That's the problem that I have with this - as a 24/7 arrangement - I think I would burn out on it pretty quickly.


Solaise Maam
yes I am sure that you would burn out not having an adult to converse with but as with complete control of the baby you would have the control of when and where they were allowed to be an adult. set certain days and hrs such as work time, set hrs for adult togetherness such as dining,going to see a movie ,travel etc.
The control is the factor here Maam that is the exchange a complete TPE always the Domme having control of the babys life in every way.
There are alot of variations of the lifestyle Maam. Some are married and have very much a baby/mommy relationship but they also have an adult life to handle the responsibilities also.
Then there is the Domme Mommy/baby relationship which is according to the Domme Mommys' wants maam.If the Domme Mommy decides she wants an adult then she gives permission for the baby to be an adult with her. The Domme Mommy decides when,where,whats of the babys life completely.
This is the power exchange Maam Domming an adult to helplessness of a child (a baby) Maam.
In a baby/mommy relationship it is mostly love and caring and alot of adult interaction and building adult lifes around the feelings they have as mommy/baby Maam.
In a Domme Mommy/baby relationship the Domme is in complete charge and plans the babys life as she wants it ,the baby has no say so unless allowed to ,Maam. There is no adult decisions chose by the baby always the Domme Mommy.
I myself am more of an infantilist I still have my baby desires within me that are very strong but along with my baby desires I also have a need of strict discipline and authority in my life from an female partner/mommy/Domme Mommy. Domme Mommys are the most logical of the three female roles Maam:)
baby Larry

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RE: baby sub or adult sub which gives more? - 12/24/2004 4:02:12 PM   
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some people choice to be a mommy/dommie was not puting anyone down i was just telling what i know about the adult baby lifestyle i know there will be people that will never understand the whole thing on the way we live are lifes. It is just my life i am just trying to get people to understand it is not a bad thing we just want to be accepted i know people think we are barking out orders we just want to be loved for who we are and there are a few that do not mind haveing someone like that in a relationship that is all what i was trying to say bye for now chris.

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Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 9:51:49 AM   
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Hi Mistresses
I guess because I have a babys heart and feelings I am easily taken in by the lazy money hungry women here on collarme.
I have gave money and once they recv the money I hear from them no more.
I am not the type of person to bother anyone so I dont write them and complain or tell them what I think I just let it be.
I guess that is the baby in me that loves all women even the ones that lie for money!!
I respect all women ,have all my, life but these I have no respect nor no use for!!
I am sure if you true Dommes knew who this was you would blacklist them Maam.
I am really in awe about thinking that women could even think about being close to what
a Mistress truly is and for them to think of theirselves Domme just hurts the inner core of true Female Supremacy!!
I wish there was a way that we all ,that need you so much for direction and guidance in our lifes ,could tell when we speak with ones on here if they are a true Domme or just a lazy money hungry woman!!
Maybe Mistresses you can enlighten me some on this aspect?
Thank you Maam.
Larry




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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 10:28:30 AM   
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Don't blame your stupidity on "having a baby's heart." (your words) That dog won't hunt because
1) The key word in the phrase "adult baby" is ADULT. Like it or not you *are* an adult. There will be many times in life that you will have to act like one. Just because you choose to self identify as an adult baby, that doesn't relinquish you from adult responsibilities.

2) Getting chumped or ganked (taken advantage of) online isn't exclusive to adult babies only. Everyone has to the potential to be taken advantage of. Even *I* get solicited to part with my money. I just don't.

3) If you were adult enough to make the money, then you are adult enough to keep it in your pocket. Once again. . .you are an ADULT. . .like it or not.

4) You wee "adult" enough to know that you were scammed and "adult" enough to know what a "lazy money hungry woman" is. Looks like you want to feign igmorance when it is convenient for you. You can't have it both ways.

Jules

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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 10:56:14 AM   
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[quote) You can't have it both ways.
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Jules
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Goddess Jules Maam I am an adult baby . As an adult I tend to believe people till they show me differant.
Yes I feel I have a babys heart or I would be walking thru this world with an attitude of disbelieving and self centeredness Maam.
I am not saying I havent the gift of discernment Maam what I am saying is that the women who fill they can do this is in no way a true Domme Goddess Jules and that I have no use for them even as women.
I am not that naieve I was just asked to prove myself real so I did so Maam.
I am very well aware of the monetary cost to reveal someones true self!!
It is their loss Maam not mine!!
Larry


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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 8:34:10 PM   
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Maam jules how can we we can have it both ways. this is how alot of us deal with both sides alot of the true ones out there have percentage rating on both sides one baby and one adult there are alot out there that are 50% adult 20% AB it just depends on the person there are a few that are 50% adult 50% AB and there are a few out there are 20% adult and 80% AB what that means the adult side you still take care of things like bills and normal adult things. The baby side is when you live in it 24/7 and be treated has a baby at all time when bad we knwo what will happen spanked or time out just like a normal baby or toodler would. What the Maam get out of it is to be there mommy self and jut be happy with each other babychris.

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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 8:36:08 PM   
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I responded to this thread much earlier, attempting to make it clear why I would not be interested in taking on an AB in a lifestyle capacity. Short term play can be fun, and as a Pro, I do charge more for AB play. But, as I said, I have already raised My kids, and I am more interested in an adult to serve Me in r/t 24/7. Babies don't cook, clean, work for a living, wash the car, drive, or do My laundry. The more I read here, as I follow this, the more one-sided it appears to be. Some adult conversation once in a while, going out to a movie, is not going to cut it for Me. I can already control an adult sub/slave. Why is having an adult baby so much easier or more gratifying? To Me it just sounds like a lot of extra work. I am a very nurturing person, but My goal in life is not to re-live My "mommy" days. I am sure there are Mommy Dommes out there who find this very gratifying, and it is all (??) they seek. I will repeat, My personal feeling is that they are few are far between.

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I am not that naieve I was just asked to prove myself real so I did so Maam.
I am very well aware of the monetary cost to reveal someones true self!!
It is their loss Maam not mine!!
Larry



Yes, I'm afraid you are that naive, as that is the oldest line..."Prove you are real" by sending money?? What is the monetary cost to reveal someone's true self? That one is going right over My head!


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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 8:48:37 PM   
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hi there Maam yes we still do that kind of housework i have a best friend that is a fulltime baby he been in a adult baby relationship for more than 15 years and he still has choicers to do around the house does what his mommy/wife wants done like take the trash but he is still a baby when he does his work around the house. We do not mind that kind of stuff just the different way we do it like different kind of clothing that is all and we do wear diapers some by fun and some have to wear them due to medical problems so i hope that asnwers that baby chris.

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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 8:59:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

Babies don't cook, clean, work for a living, wash the car, drive, or do My laundry.



Thank you for your reply Goddess Dusty Gold Maam.
Yes I guess I am naive to several Maam that know the ropes( pun not intended)
I am a submissive Maam much more I am an infantilist Maam.
It is hard for me to not do as someone asks even when it concerns the lye or the truth.
That may be hard for you to grasp as you are Domme Maam .
I have never ever said that I would not work Maam if I found my Domme Mommy.
I have a career and I intend to keep it Maam:)
It is just when the Domme wants it when she wants it and how she wants it Maam.
I am sure that the Domme would keep me as much of a baby as she could while taking
care of adult matters Maam but she would always have complete control and make the decisions not any less than a slave/sub Maam.
I have been called a baby slave before but never recognize that that is what I am.
I enjoy doing what I am told to do and I do have deep respect for the true Domme Maam.
On the other hand 'monetary value of revealing someones true self" simply means it cost them alot more than it did me Maam:)
Thank you for posting Goddess Dusty Gold.
Larry


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RE: Lying women or true Dommes Is there a way to tell? - 12/27/2004 10:04:56 PM   
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I do feel for AB's, but I have to put in my two cents here.

Not many are going to want a 24 7 adult baby they have to take care of,it's just too taxing.

I think what it really comes down to is that you are going to have to be willing to grow up part time to see to the needs of Domme.

And if you can't do that, the vast majority are just not going to see a balance worth bothering with.

You see, a baby is all about him. But for a relationship to work,it has to be about US.

For some strange reason, I have had to say this to a lot of fantasy obsessed male subs too......since they seemed equally self centered.

I wonder if there is a correlation? Is it a regression thing, with wanting a mommy?

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