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Agree 100% Women Do not want "HI" or simple reply's, Do you know how hard it is to reply to say 3 or 4 women in a different way,As not to copy paste to sound witty and intelligent just to have them not even read.You want Men to put the effort into dazzle you yet will not even bother to read it? You cannot have it both ways.I find it funny a woman says I am a sub I like to be told what to do. So a man simply commands with an Email me..And the woman thinks what a silly,lazy,simple message it's not worth my time. Did you not just say you like to be told and commanded what to do? This proves its a switch you turn on or off. The cards are already stacked against us 50-1 I too would LOVE a simple "No Thanks" hell I would pay to get an actual reason. Maybe it's something I need to change to fix any confusion or creep factor.

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So a man simply commands with an Email me..And the woman thinks what a silly,lazy,simple message it's not worth my time. Did you not just say you like to be told and commanded what to do? This proves its a switch you turn on or off. The cards are already stacked against us 50-1 I too would LOVE a simple "No Thanks" hell I would pay to get an actual reason. Maybe it's something I need to change to fix any confusion or creep factor.

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ORIGINAL: Davd1973
Agree 100% Women Do not want "HI" or simple reply's, Do you know how hard it is to reply to say 3 or 4 women in a different way,As not to copy paste to sound witty and intelligent just to have them not even read.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
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I don't happen to be a submissive, but even if I was, I sure as sh^t wouldn't be jumping through hoops to do anything some Dumbinant decided to order me to do via email. It's crud like that which, if I were a guy, would offend me because it's nonsense like this that makes it harder on the decent ones.
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ORIGINAL: betataster
I'm not a Dom looking for a sub, but I am a guy, and I just had a conversation on this very point with the woman I'm currently developing a relationship with. No, I am not at all angry with the wankers that send women unsolicited pictures of their private parts, or can't manage to string more than five words together, or think a snazzy introduction to a non Pro is "I will pay you x amount of dollars to do y to me."

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ORIGINAL: betataster

Thanks.

Yes, I can see how the large number of inappropriate messages from men can turn a woman off from even reading incoming emails and limiting her interaction on the site to making the initial overture herself. Certainly, that can affect my options and perhaps it already has, I have no way of knowing. Maybe 50% of the introductions I send out elicit no reply and I just assume that they are not interested in me in particular but perhaps they are not responding to anything originating from men. Either way, it makes no difference to me.

You're welcome.

There used to be a couple of posters here who would put up links from OKCupid when they would do their surveys and data collection. I seem to recall there was something about X amount of folks who sign up to dating sites pretty much just split. At the one year mark, there's another decrease. Folks who make a match just don't bother deleting the profile, etc. Those emails, you're just sending out to dead cyber space.

Anyway, OKCupid compiled all of these various studies and now it's a book. I think ReMakeYou has the link for it.

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Regarding your response rate to introductory emails that you send out, well, of course, you know we're talking a completely different situation as regards supply and demand. Submissive men, or perhaps better, men who present themselves as submissive, are a drug on the market and to an extreme degree when taken in comparison to the number of real, non-professional dominant women looking for a monogamous or alpha sub/Domme relationship, which is what I'm looking for. There are plenty of them out there, especially if relocation is an option, but they form only a minor percentage of the total number of dominant women on the site. Luckily, they also seem to be among the women who are most receptive to a well-written introduction.

I pin it on some other stuff, too. I do participate in my local community. I teach topping skills. I've lived in several locations since being a member here. I'm a forum participant. These things add up.

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Regarding sub males responding to dominant women, and speaking only for myself, I respond politely to every message I received. Even if it's from some random woman in the Philippines asking if I want to be her slave. I'll respond and ask her if she's read my profile. The follow-up from her usually is just a repeat with no indication that she has read my profile and my blocking her comes soon after. That is an extreme case. Just this last Sunday, I took a Domme to brunch who had reached out to me from my profile. I explained to her that I was developing a relationship with someone else and not interviewing for anything but I would be happy to spend some time with her and learn something about the lifestyle. Which we did, and I learned something and made a friend.

I happen to be of the opinion that the above is a good thing to do, just going out and meeting people on a friendly basis. It's really not all about dating, play, or having a relationship with everyone you meet. I've actually met up with other forum participants who just happened to be in town for a day or two because it would just be fun to say hi.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Took the word right out of my mouth

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ORIGINAL: betataster

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick
Took the word right out of my mouth

And like that... poof... it's gone
with apologies to Keyser Söze.

Apparently, a mod removed the entire exchange and rightly so.

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my new fave question.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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my new fave question.

Sometimes it really is all one can say. :)

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ORIGINAL: TheRomanticDomme
As a bisexual woman, I have certainly noticed that there's differences in how people respond (or not). There's also a divide between the kinky and not kinky sites. For example, on here women will often not respond, but men nearly always will, though a significant chunk of the men will "ghost" after a few days to a week of messaging. While neither is awesome or ideal, personally I actually prefer to not get an initial response because there's no hope it might lead to something. On the vanilla sites like OkC or POF, men often won't bother with a response but women will send a "No thanks" if they're not interested. The cynic in me believes that the men here respond because talking with a woman is rare enough they want to at least jump on the chance to get some sexy chat, even if they're not into her, but even my cynical side isn't pissy enough to believe that's the case with all, or even most of them. Probably because I'm sure men have, after some back and forth, told a woman (or most likely many) that they're just not interested in moving forward and got some pretty nasty responses back. In the end, while everyone's kind of coming at this from a Men vs Women angle (because that's what happens when you're discussing dating/sex/relationships) at the end of the day, it's really more like most people are just kinda shitty at being decent human beings and has very little to do with gender.

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Ain't dat the truth! What gets me is that I can't figure out what either you, or possibly LP, or betataster might have posted which would have compelled a Mod to swoop down in the span of 2-4 hours to remove from this thread, given that this topic has covered the gamut.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

It was a post by Teentie that betataster quoted that got deleted, and because he quoted it, his post of "dafuq" was also deleted.

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ORIGINAL: TheRomanticDomme

As a bisexual woman, I have certainly noticed that there's differences in how people respond (or not). There's also a divide between the kinky and not kinky sites. For example, on here women will often not respond, but men nearly always will, though a significant chunk of the men will "ghost" after a few days to a week of messaging. While neither is awesome or ideal, personally I actually prefer to not get an initial response because there's no hope it might lead to something. On the vanilla sites like OkC or POF, men often won't bother with a response but women will send a "No thanks" if they're not interested. The cynic in me believes that the men here respond because talking with a woman is rare enough they want to at least jump on the chance to get some sexy chat, even if they're not into her, but even my cynical side isn't pissy enough to believe that's the case with all, or even most of them. Probably because I'm sure men have, after some back and forth, told a woman (or most likely many) that they're just not interested in moving forward and got some pretty nasty responses back. In the end, while everyone's kind of coming at this from a Men vs Women angle (because that's what happens when you're discussing dating/sex/relationships) at the end of the day, it's really more like most people are just kinda shitty at being decent human beings and has very little to do with gender.