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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 4:57:29 PM   
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Actually - using Master, Mistress and submissive implies a power dynamic relationship and for most of us, our default is set to something that isn't just an online interaction.

So, in other words if you are not currently in a relationship you cease to be a master/mistress/submissive/whatever-the-fuck-you-identify-as?

I did not say that.

I was speaking to this particular case, which is: A submissive accepting tasks from a Master would be a power dynamic by virtue of the titles used and the actions created.

Honestly, if he had started the thread with "Hey, I'm creating an eBook that contains games that online people can play" - the thread would have gone a lot differently.

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:03:05 PM   
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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:03:22 PM   
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You asked what people in real m/s relationships do. We told you.

Actually he didn't. He prefaced his question with "If you are a Master who provides subs with tasks".
Nothing in there about it being any specific type of relationship.

Actually, he did. He specified "Masters" who have "subs". That's pretty specific in terms of what kind of relationship he was referring to.




ThatDizzyChick, actually Wayward5oul is right. I was asking for Masters who provide subs with challenges etc, I didn't specify that it had to be their subs. My intention is to provide those who seek such challenges with a source.

This thread (and many others I've witnessed) has been hijacked by the 'if it doesn't walk like us, talk like us, or quack like us' then its wrong brigaid(!). Well, you're all quakers.




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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:05:21 PM   
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Actually, he did. He specified "Masters" who have "subs". That's pretty specific in terms of what kind of relationship he was referring to.

I hate to be pedantic (no I don't, I love it)


You might want to stick to your day job.

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, but he did not. He did not say anything about them having subs, only that they provide tasks for subs. Based on what he posted the subs could be anybody's sub at all, as long as that hypothetical master provided them with tasks.
So, let's say my boss at the pub identifies as a master, and he tells me to take over the bar for the rest of the shift. Well he qualifies, as he is a master who has provided a sub with a task.


He specifically said " your subs".

As you are so fond of telling others, try reading it again and see what was actually said.


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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:10:30 PM   
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Honestly, if he had started the thread with "Hey, I'm creating an eBook that contains games that online people can play" - the thread would have gone a lot differently.


My original question was a valid one. It was simple and concise. You mudded the water, with your pedantic twaddle and hijacked the tread possibly because you love the sound of your own voice.

I might be wrong, what do I know, being a newbie and all.

Here's a new challenge: Stop trying to make everyone fit in the same hole as you do. (that was a lot ruder the first time I wrote it)

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:10:41 PM   
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That doesn't mean that you would not get useful answers from a post like this. There have been those who have asked similar questions and have gotten useful feedback. But you have gone from asking the general forum population of Masters to only those who do it online for fun to looking for feedback for creating a game to writing an eBook about it, and we are still on the first page of the thread.

It's hard to take an approach like that seriously.

Just sayin'.


Thank you for your response Wayward5oul, I appriciate it. In reply to your last paragraph. I asked a simple question, hoping for a simple answer from Masters who provide subs with challenges. Instead I got a lot of questions that hijacked the tread and left me defending my post.

I asked the original question, as research for content within the game, and the game is in the form of an eBook. (Not sure where you got the idea that I was writing a book ''about the game', the ebook IS the game.

The "it" I was referring to was feedback to your post, not the game. I can see how that would be confusing. My bad.

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:12:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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That doesn't mean that you would not get useful answers from a post like this. There have been those who have asked similar questions and have gotten useful feedback. But you have gone from asking the general forum population of Masters to only those who do it online for fun to looking for feedback for creating a game to writing an eBook about it, and we are still on the first page of the thread.

It's hard to take an approach like that seriously.

Just sayin'.


Thank you for your response Wayward5oul, I appriciate it. In reply to your last paragraph. I asked a simple question, hoping for a simple answer from Masters who provide subs with challenges. Instead I got a lot of questions that hijacked the tread and left me defending my post.

I asked the original question, as research for content within the game, and the game is in the form of an eBook. (Not sure where you got the idea that I was writing a book ''about the game', the ebook IS the game.

The "it" I was referring to was feedback to your post, not the game. I can see how that would be confusing. My bad.



You see what they've gone and done - dragged us both down to their level.


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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:21:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ClubErotica


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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You asked what people in real m/s relationships do. We told you.

Actually he didn't. He prefaced his question with "If you are a Master who provides subs with tasks".
Nothing in there about it being any specific type of relationship.

Actually, he did. He specified "Masters" who have "subs". That's pretty specific in terms of what kind of relationship he was referring to.




ThatDizzyChick, actually Wayward5oul is right. I was asking for Masters who provide subs with challenges etc, I didn't specify that it had to be their subs. My intention is to provide those who seek such challenges with a source.

I am the one that said you specified " their" subs, not TDC. And i said that because you said "your sub".

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This thread (and many others I've witnessed) has been hijacked by the 'if it doesn't walk like us, talk like us, or quack like us' then its wrong brigaid(!). Well, you're all quakers.

As someone who does not "walk like us, talk like us, or quack like us" I would disagree. I do this purely for sexual enjoyment and only in the bedroom, yet I generally have no problem getting along in these forums just fine and most people take me seriously at least I think so. I have found that when you speak clearly and concisely and your posts don't leave all kinds of room for all kinds of interpretation , you can usually get along pretty well here.



Edited for clarity, lol.

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 5:24:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ClubErotica

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Honestly, if he had started the thread with "Hey, I'm creating an eBook that contains games that online people can play" - the thread would have gone a lot differently.


My original question was a valid one. It was simple and concise. You mudded the water, with your pedantic twaddle and hijacked the tread possibly because you love the sound of your own voice.

I might be wrong, what do I know, being a newbie and all.

Here's a new challenge: Stop trying to make everyone fit in the same hole as you do. (that was a lot ruder the first time I wrote it)


I don't try to make everyone fit in the same hole. Never have. I have friends that are involved in D/s with no BDSM. I have friends involved in BDSM with no D/s. I've had a switch relationship with another woman. I know people that engage in service contracts. And I know service Tops and bottoms. I have no problem with any of them.

You used terms that referred to a specific dynamic, when that's not what you meant. Then tried to control the thread when people called you on it.

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” Congratulations for sinking to this level.


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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:00:04 PM   
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Just to be very clear, this is your original. The word "tasks" appears. The word "challenges" does not.

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Hello Masters

If you are a Master who provides subs with tasks, what are the tasks you set that are most likely to be completed (or at least attempted) by your sub, and what proof do you ask of the sub that they have done so?

I mean, since we're going to talk about who said what and all.

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ORIGINAL: ClubErotica
I'd ask you to understand that this idea of creating a 'Sub/Slave/Sissy Challenge Game' is a new one, so I haven't got all the answers right now. (Others might have done this sort of thing in the past, however, being new to the scene, I'm not aware of them, and so this is an original idea for me).

Let me assure you that it's not original, which is exactly why tasks/show verification is very popular in the pay for play realm. If we are talking about het folks, women, both Dominant and submissive, are more likely to seek financial compensation for participating in this kind of thing.

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Origins: I noticed that a lot of subs where asking potential Mistresses/Masters for challenges to perform, and thought I would see if I could create an eBook containing original and inventive challenges.

You're seeing a lot of het females looking for male Masters looking for challenges to perform? Really? I see a lot of this kind of stuff for pay ('come on baby, tell me what to do for $X.xx per minute) but not a lot of females who have trouble finding men to watch them on cam for free. Without compensation, I don't see a lot of female Dominants willing to see random guys complete tasks. This is why paying for time/watching cams has become a pay realm for het folks. Where you *might* gain more ground would be m/m.

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I've seen a lot of these requests shot down by other members (referring to them as 'wank' bank material). Instead of judging these individuals for 'their' kinks, simply give them the eBook, tell them to perform the tasks and provide proof that the tasks where performed.

I'm giving you credit just because you used the term 'wank bank'.

As to judging, I'm giving you an honest assessment of what I see. The reason you are seeing these requests are because the other half of the equation just isn't there. Just not as many people willing to do this (for free) on the other side (the voyeur) that are female. If you're seeing male s-types with so many requests of 'watch me do this,' it's because the women aren't that vested in watching the tasks be performed. The lack of willing recipients is exactly why pay for play is so huge on this site.

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This will help satisfy two goals. Firstly, for the 'Wank Bank' crowd, it'll provide then with a source material for their kink. For the Dommes, it would (could, maybe) weed out those who are serious about submitting.

As a female Domme, my personal opinion is no it doesn't. The book and the tasks are there before I ever showed up. How is that submitting to me? They are doing stuff that they are wanting to do, anyway, because I'm not a part of the equation. Do what I tell you to do? That's submitting to me.

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As I said, this is a work in progress, and might not go anywhere.

Personally, it's also a lesson in marketing.

As to a lesson in marketing, you're target is really the male s-types. It's the exactly business plan that MystressWorld used. (Feel free to google it.) They made a nice chunk of change off of this very thing. Problem was, except for the women writing the tasks and making the money, Dominant women weren't interested in these 'signs of submission' in the least.

Now, if you do want to put together a book of just random tasks, here are some ideas where you can get your ideas:

Creative Writing: Look specifically for fantasies related to humiliation, sissification, and the like.

Journals of findommes: In some cases when they do get folks to pay them for encouraging their fantasies, you'll often see journal posts about it. Terms I'd look for are 'good lil cocksucker on cam,' anything to do with anal, and again, those kinks associated with humiliation.

Journals of male subs: Anything in the lowly worm category.

Watch the Mistress board: Any posts of 'why can't I find a woman to FORCE me to do X? By the way, most of the women on that board hate that crap.

That should get you started with some reference material.





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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:14:01 PM   
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Now, if you do want to put together a book of just random tasks, here are some ideas where you can get your ideas:

Creative Writing: Look specifically for fantasies related to humiliation, sissification, and the like.

Journals of findommes: In some cases when they do get folks to pay them for encouraging their fantasies, you'll often see journal posts about it. Terms I'd look for are 'good lil cocksucker on cam,' anything to do with anal, and again, those kinks associated with humiliation.

Journals of male subs: Anything in the lowly worm category.

Watch the Mistress board: Any posts of 'why can't I find a woman to FORCE me to do X? By the way, most of the women on that board hate that crap.

That should get you started with some reference material.




I think something else to be aware of (judging by the ideas he threw out on the Ask a Submissive forum) - he needs to be aware that some of his ideas need to have a RACK warning. Allowing recordings of yourself engaging in sex games to be posted on the internet can have massive repercussions in life: relationships, employment, community standing, etc. He also needs to stop and consider if the suggestions involve people outside of the people playing the game.

With the litigious nature of our world, he could find himself in a massive lawsuit because someone took his suggestions.


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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:40:29 PM   
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I did not say that.

Actually you did. You may not have meant to do so, but you did.

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I was speaking to this particular case, which is: A submissive accepting tasks from a Master would be a power dynamic by virtue of the titles used and the actions created.

No. Not so.

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:41:45 PM   
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the ebook IS the game.

Dafuq?

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:43:54 PM   
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ThatDizzyChick, actually Wayward5oul is right.

And yet....
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I didn't specify that it had to be their subs.

That is what I said. If what I said is correct, then how is it I am incorrect?

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:44:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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ThatDizzyChick, actually Wayward5oul is right.

And yet....
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I didn't specify that it had to be their subs.

That is what I said. If what I said is correct, then how is it I am incorrect?

Yeah, he's all over the place. He literally said "your sub".

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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:45:51 PM   
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I think something else to be aware of (judging by the ideas he threw out on the Ask a Submissive forum) - he needs to be aware that some of his ideas need to have a RACK warning. Allowing recordings of yourself engaging in sex games to be posted on the internet can have massive repercussions in life: relationships, employment, community standing, etc. He also needs to stop and consider if the suggestions involve people outside of the people playing the game.

With the litigious nature of our world, he could find himself in a massive lawsuit because someone took his suggestions.

I'm old. Do you remember all of the disclaimers that were in the front of just about everything published by Greenery Press? The standard "I'm not recommending you do these things but if you choose to engage for fun <blah, blah, blah>. I was thinking it would work the same.

I did go and read the other thread. That voice mail thing? I don't see that going over terribly well with friends, family, employers, or business associates. (Seriously, my female off-spring just called as I was typing that. LOL.)



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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:46:31 PM   
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He specifically said " your subs".

Really?
from the OP, here is the part where he specifies for whom the question is designed.
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If you are a Master who provides subs with tasks



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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 6:57:31 PM   
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If you are a Master who provides subs with tasks, what are the tasks you set that are most likely to be completed (or at least attempted) by your sub, and what proof do you ask of the sub that they have done so?


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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 7:00:24 PM   
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That voice mail thing? I don't see that going over terribly well with friends, family, employers, or business associates. (Seriously, my female off-spring just called as I was typing that. LOL.)




Yeah, "I can't come to the phone right now because I'm tied up and getting fucked up the ass with a really big Dildo. Leave a message. <beep>" It would go over great with Mom or the boss.


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RE: A question for Masters who provide subs with tasks ... - 5/2/2016 7:04:36 PM   
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Yes, but that was not where he specified who the question was for, now was it. :)

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