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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/1/2016 3:04:41 PM   
LilJuly76


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to me it doesn't matter what kind of Power Exchange relationship is, could be m/m, f/f, m/f, f/m etc most Dominants that I have come across like their submissives/slaves to know their self worth and to be some sort of intelligence.

It kind of defeats the purpose when a submissive comes along and says I want this, that and the other before they agree to submission.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/1/2016 8:43:41 PM   
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pg. 3... eyes and hair

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/1/2016 10:32:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

making fun and trying to trap people online like you try to do but fail miserably are two different things.

just finished reading that dribble entirely

you have no right to call women names, you have issues with women and you seem to take it out on all of us. You can not tell the fakies and users online because you haven't even attempted to be in the BDSM or kink lifestyles long enough to even figure out who are the wankers, users and fakes and that is why you keep being taken in by them and because they are women you blame it on all women.


You speak not nice and not smart.

You say I was sereous and not joking yet in that joke thread you were sereously complaning about men on and on with five or six seperete articles.

I put one article of "send me the money" joke (becasue entire article was a joke from the start of the person) and you then tell me I am sereous about wanting sex with the first poster.

You need help.
You man hate to much.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/1/2016 10:35:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Keep in mind that verbatimguy only gets hit on incessantly by gay men in bathroom stalls and rest stops, according to his OP in the P&R forum.

He doesn't have what it takes to attract us bloodsucking wimmens. Must be all that toxic morass oozing out of his pores.

Back to the OP. The eyes have it. A friendly smile and cheerful, upbeat personality. The real "It" factor is in the voice. Having a nice, full head of tuggable hair doesn't hurt.
Oh, and he should be tall, but that isn't carved into stone as long as he is a few inches taller than I am so I can wear heels. Being a little bit overweight isn't a problem, but being skinny as a rail is, as it tends to imply too much nervous energy and impatience.


Why if woman is creaped out by man in ladys restroom you dont blame victim but if man is creaped out by men in public bathroom you blame victim and make jokes about complaning not manly.

You carry a doulbe standard where you blame victim if victim is man but you simphathetic only if victim is woman.
Not very endeering a quality of you to blame victim only when victim is woman.

Are you smart enough to accept that self evadent truth?

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/1/2016 10:38:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: LilJuly76



just finished reading that dribble entirely

Stop punishing yourself.

I put him on ignore (along with the other idiot that lacks a grasp on reality) and the forums are much more enjoyable.



Wat you dont like is it so easy to see that women here are two faced.
They all blame victim if man is victim but they simphathize with women if woman is victim.

It is to easy to make women here shjow their truely two faced.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/9/2016 2:35:56 PM   
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Since there seems to be some disruption on the thread, I thought it better to just quote the original.
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Whether it be online or in person - assuming that said sub is too shy or polite to make the first move....

Ladies, what makes you stop and go -- ok, I want to approach this man and find out more.

This is one area where you and I differ, because we have different methods. (I'm not saying yours is wrong. We're just different.) While there is some debate within the kink community about the mono vrs poly numbers, I tend to view this as an overall perspective of the majority of people (to include kinky and non) being monogamous, so I tend to use that as a default. This means I tend not to approach people for relationships. I tend to assume that people fall into the monogamous majority, so I'm more likely not to pursue. Just for me, I don't want to offend monogamous folks with my advances.

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REAL LIFE (munches, parties, clubs)

If it is his LOOKS -- what about them? Interesting eyes, his attire (is it that he looks sharp? professional? something else?), how he interacts with other people? Something else?

I'm highly unlikely to be attracted by physical appearance alone. I have noticed that I do tend to have a "type" regarding submissive men. I'm more likely to be physically attracted to those who are dark haired/dark eyed, slim, running around the 5'10" to 6' mark. Oddly enough, I tend to lean more towards those who are bookish. Well kept, clean, attire is another attraction for me.

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If it is his DEMEANOR - what about it? Does someone who is gregarious and talking to lots of people interest you, or are you drawn to the quiet brooding type? What if a man has some social anxiety and is alone - how can he stand out? What would make you notice a guy who probably is not doing more than observing?

I'm kind of middle of the road on this one. While I do think male submissives/bottoms need to put themselves out there, I also think there is a point where it is overdone. Over eager is a turn off.

While I wouldn't use the descriptor of brooding, I do tend to be drawn to people who have to try. It's a strange way to put it but I like effort, that is not annoyance.

What a good question about those with social anxiety! One thing I would say is to actually *be* observant. (Not leering. That's a whole other thing.) People look around the room often at social gatherings. If you are the guy who has trepidation about approaching others, notice them when they notice you. Look up! Smile, wave, when that person sees you. Appear to be friendly if they are wondering about approaching you. Skip negative body language and cell phone obsession. (Seriously, how many people are going to interrupt a person who is on their cell phone all night?) If you see somebody has noticed you, it's ok to introduce yourself.

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ONLINE
If it is the PHOTO, how much does attraction factor in (be HONEST...people say "oh use pics with you showing your hobbies" but you must admit you do look a bit at the man, right?) - is it purely a random thing, i.e., all ladies have different quick physical things that interest us - some like shaved heads, some like big guys, some like tattoos, etc.


Hair. I'm a sucker for shoulder length hair.

Tattoos. I like artistic ink. Body art is attractive.

It's not just the hobby. It's enjoying the hobby.

And, pets. I am more likely to write a first contact email about people's pets.

quote:

Any other factors to add?

I am just curious what that -- literal - split second instinct is that says "I am intrigued a bit" to "not even noticing said sub."

Akasha

I'm going to add this, even though it seems like the same worn out record.

I'm recently dating somebody new. I did not approach him. He wrote me a first contact email.

You know the things we are constantly telling men to do when approaching women? He did many of those things when he chose to write to me.

Great mix of vanilla interests *and* mentions of what led him to write to me based on my profile.

Made sure the email was a mix of putting forth his interests (light kink and vanilla) with asking me chit-chat type of questions to encourage a response.

Light attitude. Good grammar, punctuation, and syntax. Obviously had read my profile.

As many folks know, I ignore 95% of my email from people I don't know. When I answer one, it's because the sender did something right.


< Message edited by LadyPact -- 6/9/2016 2:37:34 PM >


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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/10/2016 7:34:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: verbatimguy


quote:

ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Keep in mind that verbatimguy only gets hit on incessantly by gay men in bathroom stalls and rest stops, according to his OP in the P&R forum.

He doesn't have what it takes to attract us bloodsucking wimmens. Must be all that toxic morass oozing out of his pores.

Back to the OP. The eyes have it. A friendly smile and cheerful, upbeat personality. The real "It" factor is in the voice. Having a nice, full head of tuggable hair doesn't hurt.
Oh, and he should be tall, but that isn't carved into stone as long as he is a few inches taller than I am so I can wear heels. Being a little bit overweight isn't a problem, but being skinny as a rail is, as it tends to imply too much nervous energy and impatience.


Why if woman is creaped out by man in ladys restroom you dont blame victim but if man is creaped out by men in public bathroom you blame victim and make jokes about complaning not manly.

You carry a doulbe standard where you blame victim if victim is man but you simphathetic only if victim is woman.
Not very endeering a quality of you to blame victim only when victim is woman.

Are you smart enough to accept that self evadent truth?


If I would be constantly being hit on by lesbians, I might wonder if I might send out the wrong vibes or if I frequent bathrooms that are known lesbian hook up places.

However if you get creeped out by men using a male only bathroom, I suggest you see a shrink.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/10/2016 11:06:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: peppermint

I like this subject. Wish the guys who are looking for a Dominant Lady would read it. Sadly, that probably won't happen. It would be wonderful for those guys to realize that penis pictures won't do it. It would be wonderful if those guys would realize that saying that they are worms and worthless won't do it. However, a pleasing personality and being able to hold a conversation are big pluses.



If I start with pleasant personality and conversation, then I am not acting like a submissive.
If I start with the submissive stance, then I am not perceived as a real person.
If I send a message (always polite, respectful), I almost never get a reply. Not even a quick "no thanks".
Polite, respectful and intelligent may be seen as a plus by some. I just haven't found them.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/11/2016 12:58:29 PM   
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So don't look online. Go to local munches where these things are pluses.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/11/2016 4:23:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha


Whether it be online or in person - assuming that said sub is too shy or polite to make the first move....

Ladies, what makes you stop and go -- ok, I want to approach this man and find out more.

REAL LIFE (munches, parties, clubs)

If it is his LOOKS -- what about them? Interesting eyes, his attire (is it that he looks sharp? professional? something else?), how he interacts with other people? Something else?

If it is his DEMEANOR - what about it? Does someone who is gregarious and talking to lots of people interest you, or are you drawn to the quiet brooding type? What if a man has some social anxiety and is alone - how can he stand out? What would make you notice a guy who probably is not doing more than observing?

ONLINE
If it is the PHOTO, how much does attraction factor in (be HONEST...people say "oh use pics with you showing your hobbies" but you must admit you do look a bit at the man, right?) - is it purely a random thing, i.e., all ladies have different quick physical things that interest us - some like shaved heads, some like big guys, some like tattoos, etc.

Any other factors to add?

I am just curious what that -- literal - split second instinct is that says "I am intrigued a bit" to "not even noticing said sub."

Akasha


Yawn.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/20/2016 1:38:55 PM   
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My theory would be a seemingly trustworthy man good with words who has acceptable looks.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/20/2016 4:25:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


My theory would be a seemingly trustworthy man good with words who has acceptable looks.


... And one who isn't married, but lying about it. I was astonished to read, once, here, that so many women assumed that a man they'd met, of a certain age or over, was lying about his marital status. A couple of femdoms have cheerfully told me before that they'd checked up on the net on me - despite our never having got to the stage of discussing the potential of our being partners. (Not that you can find out much on UK men that way, I should say. Such details, and many others - including criminal records - aren't easy to unearth here in the UK.)

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 6/25/2016 8:45:45 PM   
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I like a challenge. Manly guys of the African or South Asian persuasion. Dark men rock. No white boys.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/19/2016 2:39:07 AM   
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Tall, bald head, tatts. I'll stop and look whether it's a vanilla or kink environment.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/20/2016 10:52:18 PM   
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hey if he is that much of a slave i dominate my subs on cam for donations snd i spend all the money on toys and production its actually totally for fun he needs to check my post in this forum

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/25/2016 6:39:21 AM   
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So as a sub, my question to all the domme's is kind of two fold, how would someone like me go about messaging one of you online without coming off as someone who is just like "you're hot, stick something in my ass" because for me, especially when I see someone online it just kind of feels like no matter what the message actually says it comes off as that. And then number 2 would be what kind of photos on a profile would make you stop and look, I have a couple and all of them are pretty vanilla (I pulled them from Facebook); I know that nobody likes dick photos but should I have some with my shirt off or something of that nature?
Sorry for the run on sentences

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/25/2016 8:35:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AndyP351

So as a sub, my question to all the domme's is kind of two fold, how would someone like me go about messaging one of you online without coming off as someone who is just like "you're hot, stick something in my ass" because for me, especially when I see someone online it just kind of feels like no matter what the message actually says it comes off as that. And then number 2 would be what kind of photos on a profile would make you stop and look, I have a couple and all of them are pretty vanilla (I pulled them from Facebook); I know that nobody likes dick photos but should I have some with my shirt off or something of that nature?
Sorry for the run on sentences

I'm not a Domme, but I can give you some ideas based on the female experience.

First question - approach her as a human being. "Hi, my name is _________. I saw your profile. Mention something about her profile that proves you've read it. Tell her something about what you're looking for in a relationship (not your kinks) and then ask if she's interested in talking.

Second question - Vanilla pictures are good, although I would suggest not pulling them from Facebook. People can use Tin Eye or Google Images to end up connected to your real name and family.

Lastly, if her profile says you're not what she's looking for, don't email her. You're not the exception.

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/25/2016 8:44:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AndyP351
So as a sub, my question to all the domme's is kind of two fold, how would someone like me go about messaging one of you online without coming off as someone who is just like "you're hot, stick something in my ass" because for me, especially when I see someone online it just kind of feels like no matter what the message actually says it comes off as that. And then number 2 would be what kind of photos on a profile would make you stop and look, I have a couple and all of them are pretty vanilla (I pulled them from Facebook); I know that nobody likes dick photos but should I have some with my shirt off or something of that nature?
Sorry for the run on sentences

See? That, right there, is an intelligent question.

My first suggestion would be listen to your target audience. There must be hundreds of threads on this site alone about what kind of emails get a favorable response.

Clunky with the search feature about finding them? Totally cool. OKCupid has actually mined the data and put out reports about what kind of first contact emails have proven to get a higher response rate.

Overwhelmingly, there is some stuff you should absolutely do.

At the top of the list, read the woman's profile. Don't just write because she has a hot pic and the email you send could have been to any other random you came across. Talk to her like a human and not some fetish delivery system.

Don't use text speak, be lazy about misspellings, or punctuation.

Don't lead with your d^ck or your kink. If you want to talk to a person, you have to talk to them like they are a person, first. Find something in common with them that made you want to write to that particular person. Tailor that email to just that woman.

If you are too young, too old, poly when the person you are writing is monogamous, live too far away, or any of that kind of gunk, you might want to let that profile pass you by. Yes, there are times that the stars align in just the right way and something like 0.00001 percent where somebody blows the "exception to the rule theory," but don't bank on it.

Pics...

OK, look at peonforher's pic. That is a successful pic. It's art, not porn. His genitals, nor ass are exposed. Doesn't show his face. It's well lit. Shows off one of his physical attributes (his abs) that the women here adore. And one thing that is the real kicker. He put up a pic that was unique. It stands out in the crowd. It's probably one of the most popular profile pics with the women here.

Other suggestions...

Suits. A lot of women like guys in suits.

Vacations shots, landmarks, etc. Women like backgrounds that are interesting.

Shots where you are engaged in your hobby. Could be rock climbing, Frisbee throwing, or playing golf. This makes you come across as a person with your own interest.

Stuff to avoid. Cock shots. No bent over brown eyes. Skip the cock cages, cross dressing, AB/DL, etc. Make your pic be the first good impression of YOU.





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Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/25/2016 9:26:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact


See? That, right there, is an intelligent question.


Stuff to avoid. Cock shots. No bent over brown eyes. Skip the cock cages, cross dressing, AB/DL, etc. Make your pic be the first good impression of YOU.




I'm also going to add - no pictures of other women, things you want done to you, random pieces of equipment, or cartoon porn.


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RE: Femdoms, what makes you stop in your tracks to chec... - 7/29/2016 6:08:49 PM   
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Hello A/all,

Wow, for a while I thought that this thread was going to be hijacked. I find AAkasha's threads to be
illuminating and was looking forward to some thoughtful responses. I am glad this thread has been
rescued.

I have never been a man that could make a woman stop short. Recently, I have found that ladies who
have known me for a while will approach me with offers to play. Still, I was hoping for that one "it
factor" detail that I could make use of. I hope there will be more replies.

Respectfully,
Mike
SnowRanger
Back From the Wilderness.



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