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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 9:46:55 AM   
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Ah, to be young again. You're about 18-years-old? I notice that you enjoy attacking posters but when anyone says the littlest thing about you, "After reading your responses to posts, they are quite "telling." Lol... " You come out swinging!! That's so cute! Being so young, you may not understand that whenever you post in these types of forums people will always attack you. It's just the nature of the game.

You really need to get a hold of your temper and ego. When I was your age, 18, I used to do the same thing you are doing. But life was horrible. I changed my ways at 19 and life turned around for me. You really need to change or life will be the pits.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 9:49:36 AM   
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For all you ProDommes saying you deserve $350 an hour plus tips - do you pay the same amount when you see a doctor? massage therapist? dentist? If you're not paying your chiropractor $350 plus a tip for each treatment then you are dirt cheap!


You apparently need a lesson in basic economics:

It's easy to find a chiropractor. Supply outweighs demand, thus the cost is low.

For a large portion of the kink community, it's almost impossible for some men to find a woman willing to look at their weenie. Supply is scarce and demand is high, thus the cost is high.

And allow me to pose a question: How much would it take for you perform as top to an unattractive (whether looks, hygiene or attitude) male bottom?

Keep in mind that a large percentage of men that do visit a Pro are unable to get into a relationship with a Domme and thus turn to being "serviced".


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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 10:50:19 AM   
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For all you ProDommes saying you deserve $350 an hour plus tips - do you pay the same amount when you see a doctor? massage therapist? dentist? If you're not paying your chiropractor $350 plus a tip for each treatment then you are dirt cheap!

Apparently you're not very familiar with professional BDSM practitioners. Whether male or female, it requires; experience, skills, a wardrobe spanning many fetishes, and preferably, a well equipped dungeon. None of that is cheap nor maintained by others. It is solely the purview of the professional. So when you whinge about other fields being more costly? You prove how naive you truly are. Go crawl back under your rock and leave the adults to discourse.



EXACTLY!!!!
There are so many people who have the misconception that the only reason we make $350+ a hour is because of "supply and demand." That's not true at all! Just because the market is flooded with brain surgeons doesn't mean their services will now be dirt cheap.

What saddens me is that there are some notable female posters, on this thread, who perpetuate the belief that the only reason we make so much is because of supply and demand.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 11:04:13 AM   
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And allow me to pose a question: How much would it take for you perform as top to an unattractive (whether looks, hygiene or attitude) male bottom?
From my understanding, Pro-Dommes do not perform any type of sexual activities with their clients. So what does looks have anything to do with it? It's the same question if you asked a massage therapist the same question. If you go on Backpage, there are women who will go to your house and do "whatever" for $100.00. They don't charge you more if the client is not handsome.

Keep in mind that a large percentage of men that do visit a Pro are unable to get into a relationship with a Domme and thus turn to being "serviced".
From my understanding, most men who visit a Pro-Domme are either married, or in a relationship, and just want a "dungeon experience."




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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 11:24:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
For all you ProDommes saying you deserve $350 an hour plus tips - do you pay the same amount when you see a doctor? massage therapist? dentist? If you're not paying your chiropractor $350 plus a tip for each treatment then you are dirt cheap!

Apparently you're not very familiar with professional BDSM practitioners. Whether male or female, it requires; experience, skills, a wardrobe spanning many fetishes, and preferably, a well equipped dungeon. None of that is cheap nor maintained by others. It is solely the purview of the professional. So when you whinge about other fields being more costly? You prove how naive you truly are. Go crawl back under your rock and leave the adults to discourse.



EXACTLY!!!!
There are so many people who have the misconception that the only reason we make $350+ a hour is because of "supply and demand." That's not true at all! Just because the market is flooded with brain surgeons doesn't mean their services will now be dirt cheap.

What saddens me is that there are some notable female posters, on this thread, who perpetuate the belief that the only reason we make so much is because of supply and demand.

Actually, I think the female Dominants in general get the short end of the stick. They are not only expected to have the gear, but they're expected to have a certain manner of dress by the submissive. While there are the leather and rubber fetishists, most female submissives don't expect the Dominant they're involved with to dress in fetish clothing.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 11:36:22 AM   
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Yes, you are right that a Pro-Domme doesn't provide any type of sexual services. But please do not compare us with the prostitutes from Backpage. It's really daft of you.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 11:46:02 AM   
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From my understanding, Pro-Dommes do not perform any type of sexual activities with their clients. So what does looks have anything to do with it? It's the same question if you asked a massage therapist the same question.
While they are not engaging in sex, they are engaging in something that deals with sexuality - a massage therapist does not. A client who is difficult, has poor hygiene, crappy attitude or unrealistic expectations (which makes them unattractive) can be charged more. If that massage therapist specializes in a specific type of client they usually do charge more.

And as always, you equate unattractive with looks, when it can be a variety of things ranging from marital status to attitude that makes them unattractive partners.

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If you go on Backpage, there are women who will go to your house and do "whatever" for $100.00. They don't charge you more if the client is not handsome.
Just because some people are so desperate as to do anything for $100, doesn't mean that's the price standard. I mean, I can buy a steak at Food 4 Less for $1.99/lb - but it's going to be sub-standard. So, will someone who is willing to Top for $100. A quality, experienced, well equipped Pro-Domme isn't going to be had for $100 and let's face it....you can be seriously hurt doing some of the things we do - cheaping out could be detrimental.

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From my understanding, most men who visit a Pro-Domme are either married, or in a relationship, and just want a "dungeon experience."


That would fall under the category of unattractive and "dungeon experience" equals getting your kinks fed. I spent a week observing a friend who is a Pro-Domme, it was an eye opening experience.





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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 12:15:53 PM   
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i found her on backpage. do you think that those Dominatrixes who advertise on Backpage are desperate?

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 12:48:17 PM   
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@OsideGirl
i found her on backpage. do you think that those Dominatrixes who advertise on Backpage are desperate?

I think a Dominatrix that charges $100 per session is desperate regardless of where they advertise.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 4:10:43 PM   
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Please do not compare us to doctors and therapists.
Pro-Dommes are extremely talented individuals and we are putting our lives at risk everyday (at least in NY we are). It takes many many years to achieve certain skills and we continue to grow our skills in our profession. We deserve more pay than doctors and therapists because of this. Do you want an authentic experience of going to a dungeon and being treated a certain way? Where else can you get this? So you pay. $350+ per hour is reasonable.

You are putting your live at risk everyday? A police officer and a fireman do so much more than you. Instead of just satisfying the erotic needs of a client, they save human lives, but without getting $SUS 350 an hour for it.

How many years did you study at a university, working on average 60 hours a week while having to pay for it instead of earning money?

Do you think a doctor or a civil engineer don't need many years to acquire certain skills and to grow in their profession? The difference is that they have a much greater responsibility than you. To you, it's no problem when customers pay you $US 350 without being satisfied, you will not care about it. If a civil engineer builds a bridge which collapses, he goes in jail for many years.

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Men aren't "stupid" to pay $350+ for our services. They are intelligent people who realize our talent and skills. You're "stupid" for saying that....

Yes, insulting me, just because you don't agree with me, is really one of the best ways to show that you are of an extremely low level.

Yes, most professional dommes are not so low level like you and have talents and know-how. As I am submissive, I would never be able to dominate someone. And if I tried, I would certainly not be able to do so in a satisfying way for the client. Real professional dommes are not so low-level like you and have the ability to sense what a client wants and doesn't want, and to satisy him, even if they don't like him at all. That's certainly not easy, and i is worth a decent fee, but certainly not $US 350 an hour. The only reason why you can afford to have a client pay $US 350 an hour, is not at all your competence, but the strong sex drive of your clients (and to me, it's OK that you exploit this, but I would never let me dominate by such a mean low level woman like you, even if you paid me for it).

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 4:34:57 PM   
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There are so many people who have the misconception that the only reason we make $350+ a hour is because of "supply and demand." That's not true at all!
Just because the market is flooded with brain surgeons doesn't mean their services will now be dirt cheap.

It is not a misconception at all, it is the truth.

Nobody likes brain surgery, but many men need (at least the illusion of) being dominated by a woman.

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What saddens me is that there are some notable female posters, on this thread, who perpetuate the belief that the only reason we make so much is because of supply and demand.

As opposed to you, they are honest.

You think your competences as a pro domme are worth $US 350 an hour. Other ladies here are so honest as to admit that they can only get $US 350 an hour because of the law of offer and demand.

You are the only female poster here who is extremely arrogant and seems to think you can shit higher than your ass. With this attitude, you make it very clear that you can only dominate men who have only two brain cells, and that I would never allow you to dominate me, even if you paid for it.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 4:39:17 PM   
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While they are not engaging in sex, they are engaging in something that deals with sexuality - a massage therapist does not. A client who is difficult, has poor hygiene, crappy attitude or unrealistic expectations (which makes them unattractive) can be charged more. If that massage therapist specializes in a specific type of client they usually do charge more.


I completely agree with you.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 10:46:15 PM   
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- muscledumdum
Yes, you are right that a Pro-Domme doesn't provide any type of sexual services. But please do not compare us with the prostitutes from Backpage. It's really daft of you.


What is the diferences?

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/1/2016 10:50:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ProDommeNY


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ORIGINAL: Shandirra

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
For all you ProDommes saying you deserve $350 an hour plus tips - do you pay the same amount when you see a doctor? massage therapist? dentist? If you're not paying your chiropractor $350 plus a tip for each treatment then you are dirt cheap!

Apparently you're not very familiar with professional BDSM practitioners. Whether male or female, it requires; experience, skills, a wardrobe spanning many fetishes, and preferably, a well equipped dungeon. None of that is cheap nor maintained by others. It is solely the purview of the professional. So when you whinge about other fields being more costly? You prove how naive you truly are. Go crawl back under your rock and leave the adults to discourse.



EXACTLY!!!!
There are so many people who have the misconception that the only reason we make $350+ a hour is because of "supply and demand." That's not true at all! Just because the market is flooded with brain surgeons doesn't mean their services will now be dirt cheap.

What saddens me is that there are some notable female posters, on this thread, who perpetuate the belief that the only reason we make so much is because of supply and demand.



Only way supply and demand not working here is if you have monopely or if cost regulatad by insurance company like in health insurance or if government inteventioned like in car insurence.

Otheriwse, supply and demand universal.

Why you not follow the law?

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/2/2016 7:58:26 AM   
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To the op….She didn’t continue giving you value for money and so its time to move on to someone who will. It’s a shame because she elevated your expectations and then dashed them and I guess that makes you feel like you’ve been tricked into handing over her fee. Lots of good pro-Dommes out there but it’s a good idea to do your research first and find out who’s popular. Remember, they are popular for a reason and that reason is usually because they provide a great service to their client.


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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/2/2016 11:15:18 AM   
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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/2/2016 4:17:24 PM   
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- muscledumdum
Yes, you are right that a Pro-Domme doesn't provide any type of sexual services. But please do not compare us with the prostitutes from Backpage. It's really daft of you.


What is the diferences?


You need to buy an additional brain cell to figure it out

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/2/2016 4:49:40 PM   
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Tributes? What the fuck are you talking about?
[...]
Since you clearly have no idea what I do for a living or how it's structured...why don't you stop trying to be an expert on it?

This is a thread about a professional domme. As in post #3, you told that you have clients, without specifying in which industry you are in business, I assumed that you were also a professional domme.

Trying to be an expert here is something I leave to those who try to defend a professional domme who performs a poor job like a devil who has fallen in a holy water stone.



Well we all know what happens when you assume, don't we? What I have found amusing is your comparing pro's to other jobs in pay and how much work it is, even after admitting you don't have a fucking clue what they even make or what is involved with the job.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/2/2016 4:52:40 PM   
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Your assumption was wrong. Perhaps you should have asked before making such an assumption

It would even have been easier if you had not give reason to think you were a pro domme, by specifying in which industry you are in business.

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and accusing me of tax fraud in the same sentence.

This is a false accusation.

I didn't accuse you of tax fraud. I just asked you to tell us how often you forget to declare your income to the tax authorities. Your answer can very well be "never".



You did not accuse her but you did imply it and you know that. But keep playing dumb, it will give anyone who might look at your profile all they need to know.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 6/2/2016 4:54:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

quote:

ORIGINAL: ProDommeNY

- muscledumdum

Please do not compare us to doctors and therapists.
Pro-Dommes are extremely talented individuals and we are putting our lives at risk everyday (at least in NY we are). It takes many many years to achieve certain skills and we continue to grow our skills in our profession. We deserve more pay than doctors and therapists because of this. Do you want an authentic experience of going to a dungeon and being treated a certain way? Where else can you get this? So you pay. $350+ per hour is reasonable.

You are putting your live at risk everyday? A police officer and a fireman do so much more than you. Instead of just satisfying the erotic needs of a client, they save human lives, but without getting $SUS 350 an hour for it.

How many years did you study at a university, working on average 60 hours a week while having to pay for it instead of earning money?

Do you think a doctor or a civil engineer don't need many years to acquire certain skills and to grow in their profession? The difference is that they have a much greater responsibility than you. To you, it's no problem when customers pay you $US 350 without being satisfied, you will not care about it. If a civil engineer builds a bridge which collapses, he goes in jail for many years.

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- QualityFirst
Men aren't "stupid" to pay $350+ for our services. They are intelligent people who realize our talent and skills. You're "stupid" for saying that....

Yes, insulting me, just because you don't agree with me, is really one of the best ways to show that you are of an extremely low level.

Yes, most professional dommes are not so low level like you and have talents and know-how. As I am submissive, I would never be able to dominate someone. And if I tried, I would certainly not be able to do so in a satisfying way for the client. Real professional dommes are not so low-level like you and have the ability to sense what a client wants and doesn't want, and to satisy him, even if they don't like him at all. That's certainly not easy, and i is worth a decent fee, but certainly not $US 350 an hour. The only reason why you can afford to have a client pay $US 350 an hour, is not at all your competence, but the strong sex drive of your clients (and to me, it's OK that you exploit this, but I would never let me dominate by such a mean low level woman like you, even if you paid me for it).



Steady on... Supply and demand certainly has something to do with it, like in any other business, if the market is saturated, the prices drop, however there is always quality. Also you minimize the risk, even in countries where it is legal, there is a risk, something going wrong, an ambulance, the police will be there.

For my job, I went to university for quite a while, it can be exhausting and demanding, however, I was a pro domme, simply because that was the best way to learn, and if you do apprentice and learn, you also go through years of training, learning all about sterilizing equipment, learning about safety, etc. You also have considerable expenses, equipment, outfits, etc.

I'm running a vanilla company, quite lucrative, extremely demanding, I'm doing quite alright. Comparing both, it's mentally and physically less demanding than being a pro domme and more lucrative and less risky. It really depends what you are doing, if you're willing to cross boundaries, I guess it's easy to make a quick buck with "fluff domination" and substitute real BDSM with sexual services, if you're doing edge play and you have boundaries, it's not so easy, you also screen your clients more (obviously, if you do edge play you don't want somebody who is not quite "all there" or lies to you about risks and physical problems - you would be surprised how many guys seem to have a death wish).

I like BDSM, it's kinda hardwired with me, but it is very demanding, you have to get into the head of the guys and girls you play with, especially if it is on a professional basis, not everybody is honest, most want you to be a mind reader. Not to mention the flakes, the potential stalkers, the guys not too keen on personal hygiene, the costs, the risks...

In all honesty, being a skilled domme is not something you learn overnight, you are also always flirting with several risks, it's not about the odd guy not meshing with you and being unhappy (and you can't do much if the chemistry just doesn't work in a session and whoever says that never happened lies), it is exhausting and demanding if you take it seriously. I don't know what you are into, but just ask yourself, would you be happy to be the 10th session of the day? In general the 350 you pay isn't for the hour, it's for the preparation time, the session and the work after that, as in clean up and sterilizing, which will happen again before the next session, not to mention the rent and the investments.

Of course you might get it much cheaper, but how happy would you be to risk your health with somebody who's treating you like you're one on a production line, who gives you a cookie cutter session and doesn't have the breaks in between to be able to atune to you and your needs?

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