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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 4:56:19 PM

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Sure it does.

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/ssi_sc/

If this is what you mean pointing to that, where I clicked "Download entire document" it does not prove any point you are seemingly trying to make.

That particular table kinda does show something, Illinois has quite few, under 65. So does Michigan. Those are red states ? Well Michigan can be AC DC but still not definitively red by any means.

Receiving SSI means that you get so little on SS it is deemed that nobody can live on that, like $600 a month. There is no state in this fucking union where you could live on that. Well if there is you are talking not much of a life and you already own a place to live. In most areas even one bedroom apartments run more then $600 a month. Even in the inner city Cleveland, I happen to know for sure. And this area is severely economically depressed. If you liv eon that, on your own you get another check for SSI, I have no idea how much, and then you get food stamps which is about $200 a month. And you can sell some of that to me or whoever for 50 % if you want beer or whatever. I'll take some of that discount once in a while especially if there is a sale on something I like.

Anyway, things are of course different in different states. The way I see it, this government totally fucked up with the ACA. There is still soe regulation about insurance companies doing business across state lines. That should have been whack and then the insurance companies forced to conglomerate. You want this market ? Fucking do it motherfuckers. You act as a unit and underwrite the whole thing. Otherwise you are out of business. But then there is that lobby money that started all this horseshit anyway.

But other states handling all this differently is because the situation is different. They have sprinkling bans in Arizona, not in Cleveland. In Florida you probably have ten times as many people who have had three knee replacements than any other state. I a not saying that is a stat, but if you think about it, it kinda makes some sense. People retire there. They also retire in Arizona and Texas, as hard as it may be for a liberal to believe.

But whatever.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 5:15:03 PM

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So nobody in the States has a private pension? It's only the eeevil Federal government that provides a pension plan?

I didn't say anything like that. You knew that but you are distorting my statement. But every person getting SS counts toward the federal expense. The point that was being made was that the number of retirees in the south distorts those figures.

The point being made is only lying nutsuckerism, SS does not count towards southern welfare patients.

Prove it.

I have looked and looked.

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I counted it toward the Federal money going into a state, I did not say it was counted toward welfare. Although he has stated in the past that when I get it, it is welfare. I noticed he says he takes welfare. So I guess he is the one welfare patient on here. And he is the person who (in what passes for his mind) "proved" that I am on welfare by pointed out that I live in Alabama.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 5:18:48 PM

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That is a list of social security recipients by states. So, assume we take the absurd fucking notion that social security recipients are skewing this and making the red nutsucker states seem as though they are not welfare patients which they are because thats 'social security retirees doing that', well, no it isnt because the per capitas from one of my links and the SS outlays from the other do not support it, the red nutsucker states have less (considerably less) retirees than many other states that have to pay in to the fed to keep the red nutsucker welfare patient states afloat.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 5:19:32 PM

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So nobody in the States has a private pension? It's only the eeevil Federal government that provides a pension plan?

Of course private pensions do not count. But there are people getting six grand a month from the government. Not sure how they managed that but it is SS, pension fro the military and then the post office or something like that. Too many people like that will certainly skew the numbers.

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I'm sure they would, but just how many retired military personnel and post office workers are there? Are you sure that there's going to be enough of them to skew the results all that much?

Yes, military anyway. As I pointed out earlier lots of military try to wrangle the base in Montgomery to be their final assignment to make it easier to retire here,(in part because their retirement will taxed) that is a fact throughout the south.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 5:50:57 PM

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About nutsuckers, and he knows what he is, there is another FACT that liberals do not take into consideration.

When people retire, sometimes they don't have much 401K. They were successful so they don't need it. A certain percentage of retirees in Florida for example simply have the money in the bank.

That is not taxed.

They just withdraw whatever they want whenever they want knowing that $5.6 million is going to last them for the next 7 or 10 years of their life. They are in their 70s and they do not care, nor need to care. No need to play the stock market, or work, or anything. Some of them will blow some of the money collecting old cars or stereos or whatever, but unless they buy really stupid they can sell those things and get at least most of their money back, if not more.

But the bottom line here is that people who got their own, who made it and got money, they do not show on the books. They got $4 mil in the bank and are 75 years old and have a paid off house, car and boat, they pay no taxes. If nothing else, they displace those who do.

In the mid 1990s Florida was happening. I had a friend down there and went down a few times. He told me he wished they would just quit issuing building permits, PERIOD. I asked why. He said the infrastructure could not handle it. Now mind you this is in Longwood, look it up, it is pretty high elevation. He said they always had all kinds of sewer problems and shit like that because there were too many people. (ca. 1996)

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 5:52:41 PM

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Well not only is this full of presumptions and prejudice but red states lead the nation in food stamps use. HERE

im sorry, that statement is essentially meaningless. which way a particular state goes in a presidential election--or if there is some other way to determine "red" or "blue"---has absolutely nothing to do with the demographics of who actually receives government assistance in the guise of food stamps.

the question has to be answered on that level.

ive seen the data before, and if I remember rightly, there are a surprising number of republicans on food stamps, but there is a small majority of democrats.

in any event, here's the most recent raw data by states:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/pd/29SNAPcurrPP.pdf

I haven't done all the addition, but a cursory view appears to show the blue states (as per the last election) receive most food stamps on the individual level.

California, florida, new York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, ohio and Michigan are 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9 and 10 in the top ten usage. only three red states are in the top ten, texas, Georgia and north Carolina at 2, 7 and 9 respectively.

pretty much the top ten's numbers, tower over the remaining states. for instance it would take anywhere from 10-20 other states to meet California and florida combined totals.

Are food stamps given out based on national income numbers?
This seems likely as it is a federal program, otherwise it couldn't be counted as a drain on the federal money.
If that is the case you have to take into account the fact that while wages tend to be lower in the south, the cost of living is much lower.
Thus people in the south with a higher standard of living than in the north.
Another thing is that there are more military bases in the south (per capita) than in the north. When I was in the AF I had an airman working for me who was married with one child. While he was too proud to take food stamps he was eligible for them. He did eventually accept WIC and was given a hard time at the commissary. Fortunatly there was a real Colonel (not just paygrade) behind him in line who told him to take the food and go on home, the Colonel would take care of it. As my airman was leaving he saw the Colonel, the checkout, and the commissary manager in a very unpleasant converstation.
The point being that lower ranking military also distort the numbers.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 10:45:36 PM

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So, we have the southern nutsucker red welfare states.

These nutsuckers are for indolence.
These nutsuckers are for big government.
These nutsuckers are for government interventions rather than standing on their own two feet.
These nutsuckers are for socialism at a communism level, and taking away incentive for producers, so they may be takers.
Nutsuckers are welfare patients.
That is the real nutsuckerism.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 10:59:54 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

The standard of living at least in monetary terms is 'kiss your sister' in the nutsucker welfare south.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:01:24 PM

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So, we have the southern nutsucker red welfare states.

These nutsuckers are for indolence.
These nutsuckers are for big government.
These nutsuckers are for government interventions rather than standing on their own two feet.
These nutsuckers are for socialism at a communism level, and taking away incentive for producers, so they may be takers.
Nutsuckers are welfare patients.
That is the real nutsuckerism.

So the real nutsuckers are liberals.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:06:05 PM

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So, we have the southern nutsucker red welfare states.

Yeah, well ..

Good thing the nutsucker NY bankers were never bailout welfare patients as reward for committing financial jihad terrorism upon the nation.

Get a grip, man.

Slow down there.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:08:14 PM

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Nope, as has been demonstrated and actually agreed to by you in your previous post, the nutsucker welfare patients in the south who are indolent wastrels are the people who live there, welfare patienting and communistically taking hard working northern 'liberals' money and vote the party of trump. they dont have brains enough to pour piss out of a boot, or not wear their mullets, or quit marrying their sisters. Nutsuckers style themselves as 'republicans' or 'conservatives' and are neither.

Occasionally they style themselves libertarians or independents which are codewords for nutsucker.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:09:41 PM

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Yeah, well ..

Good thing the nutsucker NY bankers were never bailout welfare patients as reward for committing financial jihad terrorism upon the nation.

Get a grip, man.

Slow down there.

You want him to get a grip?
Have you ever read his posts?

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:11:30 PM

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Nope, as has been demonstrated and actually agreed to by you in your previous post, the nutsucker welfare patients in the south who are indolent wastrels as the people who live there, and vote the party of trump. they dont have brains enough to pour piss out of a boot, or not wear their mullets, or quit marrying their sisters. Nutsuckers style themselves as 'republicans' or 'conservatives' and are neither.

Occasionally they style themselves libertarians or independents which are codewords for nutsucker.

None of which I ever said but you just keep saying it, maybe someone who doesn't know you will read it think you have some idea of what you are saying.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:13:55 PM

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Yeah, well ..

Good thing the nutsucker NY bankers were never bailout welfare patients as reward for committing financial jihad terrorism upon the nation.

Get a grip, man.

Slow down there.

Don't understand that non-English, but absolutely Bankers will bailout people ruining this nation, as this nation will bail them out as they ruin it.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:14:08 PM

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And I dreamed I saw the bankers
Riding shotgun in the sky
And they were turning into blueberry waffles
Above our nation

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:16:46 PM

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Nope, as has been demonstrated and actually agreed to by you in your previous post, the nutsucker welfare patients in the south who are indolent wastrels as the people who live there, and vote the party of trump. they dont have brains enough to pour piss out of a boot, or not wear their mullets, or quit marrying their sisters. Nutsuckers style themselves as 'republicans' or 'conservatives' and are neither.

Occasionally they style themselves libertarians or independents which are codewords for nutsucker.

None of which I ever said but you just keep saying it, maybe someone who doesn't know you will read it think you have some idea of what you are saying.

Anyone who has a grasp of fact and basic English understands it, which of course leaves your ignorant fuckin ass out.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:21:05 PM

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http://www.businessinsider.com/the-states-the-most-and-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government-2015-7

Ive been livin on the welfare, all the livelong day, Ive been livin on the welfare the welfare patient way..........

This as close as anyone has come to saying they were on welfare.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:23:14 PM

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http://politicalblindspot.com/the-food-stamp-capital-of-the-u-s-is-white-and-republican/

The food stamp capital of the world is white and republican, and it doesnt matter that bigger states that dont appear to be republican get a lot of food stamps, since they pay for them and for southern nutsucker layabout and takers food stamps as well. Those states are producers.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/9/2016 11:35:31 PM

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http://www.businessinsider.com/the-states-the-most-and-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government-2015-7

Ive been livin on the welfare, all the livelong day, Ive been livin on the welfare the welfare patient way..........

This as close as anyone has come to saying they were on welfare.

I was singing your theme song welfare patient, cuz I know you can't grasp the English, I buy and sell welfare patients like you every day.

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RE: "If you think that living in the South means y... - 6/10/2016 12:49:58 AM

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What the fuck do YOU do Ron ? I fix electronic equipment and slow the bleeding of money to China for more junk. Just what do you do ? Anything useful at all ? From your posts' idiocy I would guess nothing at all. You have never shown one ounce of intelligence in posts since I have been here that I can remember. You just call people names n shit. Put up a couple of links that when followed have nothing to to do with your point, or a bunch of links that nobody is going to read because it adds up to like 100 pages.

I should just dump this because you do not rate a reply from me. But I am in a good mood right now.

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