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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:31:48 PM

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Yeah, those nutsuckers in the red welfare states are trying to infringe our second amendment rights, those commie bastards.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:34:06 PM

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The standard for an AR is 20 with larger (and less dependable) magazines availiable. The shooter in Aurora had a 100 round magazine (that jamed after about 10 rounds) and had to switch to a shotgun with about 6 (far more deadly) rounds.

Okay, so with two guns, at one time, with his bigger gun, he can shoot 10x20 bullets, 200 bullets. And 6 with the other gun.

206 bullets he had to use! Managed to hit 100 running people. That's really accurate!

Surprise throughout it all, nobody jumped on him from behind to tackle him.

And surprise that nobody else had guns to defend themselves.

IF he managed to get one big gun in that easily, that club security was not doing their job! Unless he shot and killed all the security too at entrance.

The 9 most likely had more like 16.
It was illegal for anyone to have a firearm in a nightclub.
I think he cowed them and shot them at his leasure.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:35:49 PM

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Which 9 was it, cookie?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:36:15 PM

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Yeah. No.

Thats probably why you got RIFfed and never made grade with your time in service, couldn't even clean a gun.

Rimfires can be fuckin bent and still work fine

And again you lie about my being RIFfed.
How did you get out in 2.5, make a pass at your captian?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:36:56 PM

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Yeah, those nutsuckers in the red welfare states are trying to infringe our second amendment rights, those commie bastards.

What is it you're drinking/smoking right now?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:37:13 PM

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Well, not surprise. American Born Muslim. Saw two gay men kissing in the bathroom, and decided to go crazy killing gays. WTF? No point being American Born and American educated at all. I do blame the religion. It's what the mosque is brainwashing them about.

How long ago was it that christians outgrew doing that kind of shit?

This excuse is always used AS IF, Islam is just a 10 yr old religion.

I take it that means you do not know?

The Christian vs. Muslim arm-wrestling misses the point, I think.

Both of those traditions--along with others--share a common problem: unhinged extremists who assume their prejudices are also God's.

That was precisely my point. Gretta in her hatred sees nothing but her hatred of her enemy

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:40:12 PM

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The standard for an AR is 20 with larger (and less dependable) magazines availiable. The shooter in Aurora had a 100 round magazine (that jamed after about 10 rounds) and had to switch to a shotgun with about 6 (far more deadly) rounds.

Okay, so with two guns, at one time, with his bigger gun, he can shoot 10x20 bullets, 200 bullets. And 6 with the other gun.

206 bullets he had to use! Managed to hit 100 running people. That's really accurate!

Surprise throughout it all, nobody jumped on him from behind to tackle him.

And surprise that nobody else had guns to defend themselves.

IF he managed to get one big gun in that easily, that club security was not doing their job! Unless he shot and killed all the security too at entrance.

Generally speaking and pointed out previously, firearms are legally prohibited in places that serve alcohol. Additionally, when faced with an armed person firing randomly into a crowd one's first instinct is to get away from the shooter.

My AR-15s, and many others in free states, use Magpul 30-round magazines which are unbelievably reliable and relatively inexpensive.

Magpul makes a 60-round magazine but it's fairly expensive when compared to the 30-round magazines, not to mention bulky.

Magpul is more reliable than most extended magazines. And since his was a 100rd mag I doubt it was one of theirs, that and the fact that it malfunctioned.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:42:29 PM

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Which 9 was it, cookie?

She didn't say and you know it.
Most modern 9s carry about 16 rds or more and you know that as well.
I have one with a 8rd mag, but it was made in 42 by the Poles for the German army.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:45:54 PM

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So greta, he went into the club armed to the teeth and loaded for bear but never intended to use those weapons until he went to the toilet and saw two men kissing and that set him off ? That really doesn't hang together somehow.
Okay, so maybe, just maybe he hated gays. So now Trump will have to bar muslims from the country, deport all the gays and at the same time, deport all the gay-haters. Then he will probably deport all those who don't like him or criticised him or didn't vote for him. Keep all the Mexicans out too of course. Have I missed anybody ? Oh yes, women.......the only ones allowed to stay are the really good looking ones who will fall at the emperor's feet and worship him and offer him sex whenever he wants it. I have no idea what he would do with the rest..........maybe put them in chaff bags and send them to a muslim country ?..............yes, that second paragraph is a little ridiculous, isn't it ? so is the first one when you come to think about it but it IS what you insinuated.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:46:40 PM

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The Christian vs. Muslim arm-wrestling misses the point, I think.

Both of those traditions--along with others--share a common problem: unhinged extremists who assume their prejudices are also God's.

Unfortunately it's this kind of false equivalence which sees the left constantly making these kinds of excuses for Islamic violence.

Christianity has a grand total of 3 - count 'em - 3 verses establishing homosexuality as undesirable, and zero verses advocating the murder of homosexuals. The most prominent advocates of homosexual hatred are probably the Westboro Baptist loonies who - to my knowledge - have managed to murder precisely zero homosexuals in their anti-gay crusade.

Islam, on the other hand, embraces the murder of homosexuals with an uncommon zeal and has gay murder written into the fabric of the Quran itself. Thus, you have at least 7 Islamic nations with the death penalty.

I hope you do not seriously contend that the occasional hate-crime by a so-called Christian is somehow equivalent to state-sanctioned gay murder in over seven countries, ISIL tossing every gay man they can find off tall buildings and the occasional casual murder of a gay man in societies where 'honor killings' are common.

Violence is an inherent component of the Islamic creed. These people are not extremists, they are believers. And it's about damn time the regressive left accepted that reality.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:47:36 PM

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I dont know what she said, she (whoever she is) might be a war hero/inelligence guy/cook like you/

most modern 9s dont carry that. Thats add on.

The only guys that carried 9s when I was in was Krepo and guys getting RIffed.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:48:13 PM

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My AR-15s, and many others in free states, use Magpul 30-round magazines which are unbelievably reliable and relatively inexpensive.

Honest question: What does a civilian do with an AR-15? Hunting? Target practice? Self-defense?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:51:46 PM

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This is completely awful. It saddens me it is coming to this.
I do not believe this was an Islamic attack. In fact I tire of blaming them for everything.
Wake up and know that some of these things are our own people, losing it because of the bombarding of demoralizing of values and it being shoved in our faces.
It's like painfully poking a dog over and over and over and wonder why they bite. it's best not to flaunt behaviors because look how dangerous it becomes.
This was an emotional display of unhinged anger, my heart goes out to the families and victims who suffer the pain.
America is no longer the great place to live.

Sucks to be you

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:53:02 PM

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My AR-15s, and many others in free states, use Magpul 30-round magazines which are unbelievably reliable and relatively inexpensive.

Honest question: What does a civilian do with an AR-15? Hunting? Target practice? Self-defense?

Honest answer, the .223 isn't much beyond a varmit round. Good target round as the ammo is less expensive than most rifle rounds. And people do use them effectively for home defense, I don't like them but that doesn't matter.
It is possible that you, like most anti gun people don't know that a AR isn't at all the same as the M4/M16 that it resembles.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:53:53 PM

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Well, not surprise. American Born Muslim. Saw two gay men kissing in the bathroom, and decided to go crazy killing gays. WTF? No point being American Born and American educated at all. I do blame the religion. It's what the mosque is brainwashing them about.

How long ago was it that christians outgrew doing that kind of shit?

About a hundred and fifty years ago. State sanctioned gay murder in England was ended in 1861 although no executions had been held since 1835. Then again, unlike Islam, Christianity has neither a book nor central authority figure sanctioning gay murder.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:56:03 PM

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Thanks, Bama!

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It is possible that you, like most anti gun people don't know that a AR isn't at all the same as the M4/M16 that it resembles.

And that's precisely why I asked.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:57:04 PM

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The most prominent advocates of homosexual hatred are probably the Westboro Baptist loonies who

And who are repudiated by virtually the whole of Christianity.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 7:58:08 PM

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I dont know what she said, she (whoever she is) might be a war hero/inelligence guy/cook like you/

most modern 9s dont carry that. Thats add on.

The only guys that carried 9s when I was in was Krepo and guys getting RIffed.

Don't carry what?

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:01:15 PM

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While America continues to indulge it's psychotic addiction to guns, this will continue to happen.

Mind you, this won't change anything. If they won't legislate after the fucking mass murder of children, they're sure as shit not going to legislate when someone attacks "a bunch of queers, goddamit!"

This will happen while America (and, for example, France) continues to indulge its psychotic addiction to pretending Islam can be civilized.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 8:04:01 PM

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I really should keep my mouth shut but duty calls..

All this is not just about religion. Many of these tragedies have been performed by people of zero religious affiliation.
No matter the reason we will find about this unhinged man and no matter his religion, if he is even religious, he was an American citizen.
In truth, as I see it, Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters in some kind of mysterious connection.
The superior level of Christianity at its highest form is peace and the highest supreme level of being a Muslim is we will take considered deviants out of the picture.
It is an odd correlation, which may Instill anger in some, but I say it for people to think about, and protect themselves.
I'm a rough and abrasive at times but I would never ever kill anyone, only in self defense or to protect another. I have a conscious that runs deep.

Thats funny, Pollyanna.
Too bad they dont see it that way

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