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More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 3:48:39 PM   
MrRodgers


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Status: offline 		Here's a repub gov. (Scott of Flor.) who has demagogued against the federal govt. and Obama non-stop during his time in office.

Medicaid: HERE several links on denying care.

Then calls on the feds for help in June after the massacre. Looking for a federal hand out. Failing in every way to justify why now.

HERE

Then in either just another case of current repub. with a hand out for federal money or...one of the most outlandish performances one can imagine rising the height of giving hypocrisy a whole new meaning, Scott asks for federal assistance and money again for what's being called an environmental catastrophe...all of his and his rent-seeking, corporate sponsor's own making.

HERE

Here's Alan Farago's suggested Obama reply:

“Really? You and the Florida legislature worked like mad dogs to reject, refuse and to deny the ability of the U.S. EPA to regulate fertilizers including nitrogen and phosphorous, the cause of the algae blooms. And you want the federal taxpayer to rescue you because of your own stupidities? When the federal government offered to assist in regulating fertilizers, you said ‘no thanks’. Then you set the Florida Chamber of Commerce and Associated Industries of Florida loose on Congress. When we have tried to move Everglades restoration forward, your administration has pushed back against any efforts to put tighter restrictions on phosphorous and nitrogen flowing from sugar fields owned by your buddies, the Big Sugar cartel.

So who are you kidding with your complaints about the federal government not stepping in and being active? We tried. You denied. We promoted the U.S. economy and environmental stewardship and you demagogued against pollution control laws because they “kill jobs”. You kicked us out and then you cut your own agencies’ science staff to the bone. Next time you call, give me some good news; like you support buying enough land in the Everglades Agricultural Area to stop the use of Florida waterways as sacrifice zones for Big Sugar.”

Yep, if states are the laboratories of democracy...it sure 'works' in Florida.

This IS the republican party of today. Scott is just one of the sorriest of bit players in this tragedy.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 3:53:56 PM   
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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 4:09:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lets see, most of Medicaid funding comes from the Federal government, supplemented by the state.

Most states and the federal government is operating in the red, or if forced to have a balanced budget, cutting spending everywhere.

So, where the hell is the money to pay these expanded programs supposed to come from. I find it funny as hell liberals bitch about shit not being funded and then bitch even more when they find out their taxes are going to go up to pay for the stuff they want.



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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 5:01:49 PM   
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I find it funny as hell liberals bitch about shit not being funded and then bitch even more when they find out their taxes are going to go up to pay for the stuff they want.

True enough, and I find it funny as hell when conservatives bitch about the deficit, and then increase the fuck out of spending while cutting income. So basically I fins the world a funny old place with no end to unintentional comedy.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 5:17:35 PM   
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Lets see, most of Medicaid funding comes from the Federal government, supplemented by the state.

Most states and the federal government is operating in the red, or if forced to have a balanced budget, cutting spending everywhere.

So, where the hell is the money to pay these expanded programs supposed to come from. I find it funny as hell liberals bitch about shit not being funded and then bitch even more when they find out their taxes are going to go up to pay for the stuff they want.



I don't have a problem with a govenor working with the Feds for what is best for their state. I only see this hypocrisy in a twisted koolaide sort of way trying to rabble rouse for propaganda without thinking.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 7:31:03 PM   
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Lets see, most of Medicaid funding comes from the Federal government, supplemented by the state.

Most states and the federal government is operating in the red, or if forced to have a balanced budget, cutting spending everywhere.

So, where the hell is the money to pay these expanded programs supposed to come from. I find it funny as hell liberals bitch about shit not being funded and then bitch even more when they find out their taxes are going to go up to pay for the stuff they want.



I don't have a problem with a govenor working with the Feds for what is best for their state. I only see this hypocrisy in a twisted koolaide sort of way trying to rabble rouse for propaganda without thinking.

But the governor didn't work with the feds when it was offered and could have prevented this is in the first place. They virtually went to war against the feds. Demagogued on how these regulations would cost jobs.

So it's very hypocritical to successfully lobby the feds to stay out of Florida's environment, cutting their own enforcement, see the sugar kings pollute the water resulting in a swarm of algae, only to then come running back to those very same feds asking for more million$ in help for a problem of their own creating ?

Obama should tell them...fuck you !!



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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 7:55:09 PM   
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asking for more million$ in help for a problem of their own creating


Interestingly enough, that sounds like every governmental entity I have ever heard of, especially the Federal government and regardless of the party in charge. Care to join me in telling them "Fuck you!"?

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 8:48:21 PM   
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asking for more million$ in help for a problem of their own creating


Interestingly enough, that sounds like every governmental entity I have ever heard of, especially the Federal government and regardless of the party in charge. Care to join me in telling them "Fuck you!"?

Well site me some specific examples and I just might.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/18/2016 10:18:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		War on Drugs
War on Poverty
Common Core
Every corporate handout in the last fifty years

Surely a person as informed as yourself can easily add to the list.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/19/2016 12:53:08 AM   
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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/19/2016 6:05:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SunDominant

War on Drugs
War on Poverty
Common Core
Every corporate handout in the last fifty years

Surely a person as informed as yourself can easily add to the list.

The war on drugs is a war, the same as all wars...a war for profit. The rest is either manufactured or a violent conversation.

The war on poverty was a war that was on the lowest levels...a success despite the profits skimmed off. That poverty persists, is testimony to the lack of our economy serving all of society.

I am on the fence on common core. (federal money ?)

Yes, corporate welfare has been as expensive and purely wasteful for the taxpayers as anything.

However, I don't see any of those as on point as compared to the state of Florida demagoguing on state control of their own environment only to see it blow up in their face only to then run back to the feds for help.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/19/2016 6:58:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Their ethos is to prey on the weak, exploit the week (there time and existence), prejudices, meek, stupid, gullible etc and they do so with not a modicum, nah quivering atum of trusim, good word demogouge - I just looked it up for those who wonder about such things - I think when they are that dangerous I prefer the raw definition of sophist/ry.ism and so on..as opposed to a rabble rouser (bless you Monty Python).

I see little difference in Trump or Hitler - one is mentioned in the book of revelations ( I 'am not kidding Seven trumpets) and the pother by nostardamous (close enough) - depending on your interpretation hell Nostradamus that was too gibberish, even me to read - not that I would not back seven strumpets myself (more strumpets links my pixie x)
obama I only found out he was jaywalker (daft spell check hehe) ah lawyer last week - I kid you not as he seemed the best of your leaders in my lifetime I read up on some stuff. I always wondered where he came from, no not the birth cert, he just seemed to appear from nowhere?

somethings are seared into my memory, and my memory is not good at times, but I remember when Mother Theresa visited America who was your mad king at that time (the year escpaes me)? and how she was embraced by sophists, bigots, the cruela(you i miss) and a lot worse.

All alone - Frankenstein quote anyone? its been long time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7BO_hqe_q0 my favourite quote or has calian superseded even that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXtj65dOZuI

drugs him don't get me started on those - your are clearly a heavily medicated nation




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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/19/2016 10:16:39 AM   
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The war on drugs is a war, the same as all wars...a war for profit. The rest is either manufactured or a violent conversation.

The war on poverty was a war that was on the lowest levels...a success despite the profits skimmed off. That poverty persists, is testimony to the lack of our economy serving all of society.

I am on the fence on common core. (federal money ?)

Yes, corporate welfare has been as expensive and purely wasteful for the taxpayers as anything.

However, I don't see any of those as on point as compared to the state of Florida demagoguing on state control of their own environment only to see it blow up in their face only to then run back to the feds for help.


Anytime the Federal government declares a "War" on anything, it means that money will flow forever because there are no tangible end goals that can be realistically reached to signal success. We will always have drugs, poverty, and children that struggle with academics. The point is that the availability of drugs, poverty levels, and dropout rates have all increased. The government creates more problems in some areas than it solves, then says it needs more money to solve the additional problems it creates. The best solution to a cultural problem is a change in culture, not additional laws, regulations, and deficit spending.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/19/2016 11:55:10 AM   
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The war on drugs is a war, the same as all wars...a war for profit. The rest is either manufactured or a violent conversation.

The war on poverty was a war that was on the lowest levels...a success despite the profits skimmed off. That poverty persists, is testimony to the lack of our economy serving all of society.

I am on the fence on common core. (federal money ?)

Yes, corporate welfare has been as expensive and purely wasteful for the taxpayers as anything.

However, I don't see any of those as on point as compared to the state of Florida demagoguing on state control of their own environment only to see it blow up in their face only to then run back to the feds for help.


Anytime the Federal government declares a "War" on anything, it means that money will flow forever because there are no tangible end goals that can be realistically reached to signal success. We will always have drugs, poverty, and children that struggle with academics. The point is that the availability of drugs, poverty levels, and dropout rates have all increased. The government creates more problems in some areas than it solves, then says it needs more money to solve the additional problems it creates. The best solution to a cultural problem is a change in culture, not additional laws, regulations, and deficit spending.


I couldn't agree more but the culture will never change. Some say and also not inaccurately, some shock to society will be required to wake up the people because the 'powers that be' couldn't fuck'n care less.

They helped create the culture we live in, this current status quo and are fine with the way things are now, even if things do get worse for society at large. Read a per-viewed a photo collage of the east, Istanbul, we are on our way there...3 families in a 2 floor condo.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/20/2016 11:30:21 AM   
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This is not news.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/20/2016 11:35:21 AM   
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Lets see, most of Medicaid funding comes from the Federal government, supplemented by the state.

Most states and the federal government is operating in the red, or if forced to have a balanced budget, cutting spending everywhere.

So, where the hell is the money to pay these expanded programs supposed to come from. I find it funny as hell liberals bitch about shit not being funded and then bitch even more when they find out their taxes are going to go up to pay for the stuff they want.


Jeff, thats not the problem. The problem is that this fucking useless piece of shit sold out to a corporation and campaigned against the interests of his state and his constituents.

Now that he's fucked the state, he wants federal assistance to pay for the mess HE'S created at the behest of his corporate masters.

Christ, why are you Republicans SO FUCKING STUPID? I mean seriously, you guys can't even put two and two together. You are fucking morons who can barely breathe without assistance and blather about "liberals" while the Republican party is demolishing your house and selling your land to a fucking corporation.

Christ, you guys are depressingly dumb.


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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/20/2016 11:46:00 AM   
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Yes. Republicans are - by and large - stupid, short-sighted hypocritical fucking cunts.

This is not news.

Which ones aren't?

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/20/2016 7:34:39 PM   
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Yes. Republicans are - by and large - stupid, short-sighted hypocritical fucking cunts.

This is not news.

Which ones aren't?


The sugar growers who said 'fuck off!' at lead of "our boy!" the governor tried to see if they could could get away with it like the bankers did.

The bankers were somewhat more polite about it.

Remains to be seen how this works out.





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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/20/2016 7:39:56 PM   
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Interestingly enough, that sounds like every governmental entity I have ever heard of, especially the Federal government and regardless of the party in charge. Care to join me in telling them "Fuck you!"?


You speak as though the "government" is somehow imposed on us. Last I heard we elect the "government".

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/20/2016 7:42:39 PM   
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Anytime the Federal government declares a "War" on anything, it means that money will flow forever because there are no tangible end goals that can be realistically reached to signal success.


Did you vote for those in the government?


We will always have drugs, poverty, and children that struggle with academics. The point is that the availability of drugs, poverty levels, and dropout rates have all increased.


Cite please

The government creates more problems in some areas than it solves, then says it needs more money to solve the additional problems it creates.


Kinda like the cold war?


The best solution to a cultural problem is a change in culture, not additional laws, regulations, and deficit spending.

You do not feel that laws can change culture?

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