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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/22/2016 8:59:09 PM   
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The first and most destructive culture to change if we care anything about society is the neoliberal economics based 'free market' crap which promised that the most deregulation makes for the best economy. Which invited and accommodated the completely fatuous notion that the financial markets could 'self regulate.' So, 5 million foreclosures and 11 million lost jobs lost later ... the culmination of the fairy tale we've been living and suffering through for 35 years now.
not given our money.

Free markets, who knows? We haven't had anything even close to that in well over a century.

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So now comes the even more laughable notion that environmental destroyers can 'self regulate.'


I agree. We as consumers have the responsibility to hold them accountable and make certain they are prosecuted,

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There was no 'extra federal money' involved in Florida's environmental fiasco. Everything about the connection between fertilizers and oxygen choking of streams has been known for decades already. All the EPA wanted to do was enforce laws in place as applied everywhere else.


Agreed. However there is such thing as extra Federal money with current deficit spending, and it is not "Federal" money anyway. It is our money and that of our progeny.

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But you're right, we've been throwing money at corporations for years now, the ineluctable result being that we have to throw a bunch more money at the disasters they create thereby.


Yep. I don't see it ending under the administration of the two current candidates for POTUS either.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/22/2016 10:09:58 PM   
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I agree. We as consumers have the responsibility to hold them accountable and make certain they are prosecuted,


All good and well, but the notion of responsible consumers relies upon a corresponding notion of responsible national media, which we don't have. Parents are busy taking the kids here and there, feeding them, etc. I can tell you from personal experience as a non-parent, it still takes a lot of digging to weed out out the wheat from chaff of information promulgated as such. It disheartens me greatly to see so many parents feeding their kids sugar saturated crap for breakfast every day, but the supposedly responsible thing to do is to just 'get on with life,' which means just taking the norm as presented by the advert-directed media at face value and putting the better effort of concern in directing kids to that purpose. Who want's to be a 'radical' with the kids? I could actually agree with that, were it not for the mega-conglomerate media's selective and net-earnings-directed determination for the masses as to what constitutes 'radical' in the first place. People get food poisoned by burger chain burgers all the time. Once somebody gets sick from organic fresh spinach or organic unpasteurized apple juice, the media makes it headline news. It IS news, because it happens so seldom. The point is that food poisoning from meat is a lot more common, so not newsworthy.

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Free markets, who knows? We haven't had anything even close to that in well over a century.


Everyone has their notions about what constitutes "free market."

My reading of what has been considered 'free market' in the last 40 years or so considers that the best and only proper regulation is that as obtained by the market itself. In effect, so-called "self regulation."

But given historical events, form at least back to 5,000 years ago, lack of any external control over whatever markets as existed at the time has resulted in some disaster or another, without fail.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/22/2016 11:37:40 PM   
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Here's what I'm talking about:

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LOL Kaine Clinton LOL Much better this way


Must have had reservations about picking Elizabeth Warren.



I see what ya did there! It's been said that any other pick pales in comparison to Warrenhontas.

Cory Booker tweeted that Kaine was an able (Abel) choice.
Michael


A bunch of kids of various ages, not mentally diaper trained, who are easy prey for a media that tells people like this that someone being the rare person who actually looks out for their interests is the enemy, deserving of puerile ridicule.

In the effort to rational democracy, I think that allowing dogs and cats the vote would serve the country better in comparison.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 12:07:00 AM   
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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 12:20:47 AM   
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A bunch of kids of various ages, not mentally diaper trained


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Aluminum hats Ed.


And look who shows up, first in line to be best example of that very point.

As always.




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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:32:20 AM   
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You forgot about their fleching.

Fleching? Oh, the slings and arrows of the toiletlicking nutsuckers.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:41:23 AM   
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You forgot about their fleching.

Fleching? Oh, the slings and arrows of the toiletlicking nutsuckers.

Autocorrect. You must have an and interesting time with it.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:42:53 AM   
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A bunch of kids of various ages, not mentally diaper trained


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Aluminum hats Ed.


And look who shows up, first in line to be best example of that very point.

As always.




Oh ya, the guy that showed you were a delusional lier. How are you Ed? Still slinging the BS I see.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:47:17 AM   
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You forgot about their fleching.

Fleching? Oh, the slings and arrows of the toiletlicking nutsuckers.


He's just bitter that there is no job title in the modern world as Groom of the King's Close Stool, since that being a job for which he considers himself, not without reason, to be most qualified.




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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:48:18 AM   
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A bunch of kids of various ages, not mentally diaper trained


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Aluminum hats Ed.


And look who shows up, first in line to be best example of that very point.

As always.




Ed, I'm going to book mark this page

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4930144/mpage_15/tm.htm

So I can always have it to show your lies and delusions.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:50:59 AM   
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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 7:59:21 AM   
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Ed, I'm going to book mark this page

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4930144/mpage_15/tm.htm

So I can always have it to show your lies and delusions.


The link displays your accusations.

Keep looking and show where I actually lied, provide proof. I didn't. I said that taxes were just like any other cost of business, which reality you yourself came to ~ 20 posts later.

Such mental incapacity as would befit someone who's natural role in life is as Groom of the King's Close Stool.


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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:02:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Cool. Thanks for adding to it. The link will never show you said that. Because if you had, you'd list the post number.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:07:12 AM   
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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:08:49 AM   
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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:14:40 AM   
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I think that's "All your tin foil hats are belong to me."


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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:17:40 AM   
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Cool. Thanks for adding to it. The link will never show you said that. Because if you had, you'd list the post number.


Link the post number where I lied.

Not your accusations, but the actual putative lie itself.

Of course you can't, of course.




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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:52:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well hell Ed. Apparently I can pretty much just call out a number and somewhere you've lied in that post number. But, in that thread, post 272. In this three post 52. Because if you had said, or asked a question of me, about taxes being treated the same as any other operating expense you would have listed the post number long ago. You're still lying about it now. Which I think is funny. You'll really try to just brazen this out.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 8:58:29 AM   
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Well hell Ed. Apparently I can pretty much just call out a number and somewhere you've lied in that post number.


We're waiting.

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RE: More outlandish republican hypocrisy. - 7/23/2016 9:10:10 AM   
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Well hell Ed. Apparently I can pretty much just call out a number and somewhere you've lied in that post number.


We're waiting.


See above Ed. Lol, list my entire quote. Numbers are there. You're lying now in this post where you edited out the numbers I listed.

Ed was flying high that night. He was talking about how he would beat people, how he had a superior education in accounting, and all sorts of other super hero type stuff. The thread was long, sorry. He took offense to me saying that corporations don't pay taxes that they pass through the tax to you and me as an operating expense. He chided me for not understanding his superior knowledge of how I was wrong. Touted his three semesters of accounting education. Danced around, called names, and then in the post listed above said that he had asked me a question about the subject. He said he asked me how passing taxes though as a business expense was different than any other operating costs. Which was a lie for a couple of reasons. First he never said it. Second, as a commie he doesn't want to admit that punishing companies with more taxes doesn't work because those taxes are just passed through to consumers and are a hidden tax on consumers. third he didn't want to admit his original response was full of shit. And fourth, the whole debate was his denial of that companies didn't pass through taxes to people so, saying he'd asked me that question was a total admission that his denial was wrong.

Sorry to bring the whole thing up again. But, ed's still just dancing. I'll leave it now.

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