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WhoreMods -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 6:32:24 AM)

I quite enjoyed the film of Exit To Eden. It's a lot better (and much funnier) than that stupid piece of shit Preaching To The Perverted there was a big fuss over a year or two later.



Wayward5oul -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:05:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
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Do any of you believe that things have changed enough that you are prepared to leave it behind?

Leave what behind, in particular?

When I first started visiting the forums here, there were all kinds of 50 Shades references, threads, people begging 'please no more 50 Shades' threads, etc. And there were a few people commenting that they had stopped going to IRL events because of how the atmosphere was changing with all the 50 Shades newbies. I was just wondering if anyone here now had gone in that direction, returned if they had, or saw it with people they knew.



Wayward5oul -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:13:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

yeah a lot of people have said the book is depicting abuse and not BDSM, I haven't read the book, the reviews were enough for me not to.

I never read it, I read the reviews were horrible, and didn't see the movie. But a friend of mine sent me an excerpt that was published in Cosmo magazine, and it made me roll my eyes. Even as inexperienced as I was at the time, I could tell that it was entirely wank fodder for the Harlequin novels type. Just trying to follow the scene as it was described in the book, it was laughably badly written, and the logistics just didn't work out. All my friends were reading it, women who were normally intelligent individuals who couldn't stand bad literature, but when I would point out how badly it was written, they would defend it with 'but its such a wonderful love story'. I would just point out that they weren't reading it for the love story and they knew it.



Wayward5oul -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:18:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
It was hardly an apocalypse.


Looking back on it now, no it wasn't. But at the time a lot of people certainly acted like it was.

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I thought this was going to be a discussion of BDSM imagery in the Mad Max movies...

Sorry to disappoint, lol.

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Just educate and stop whining about them to make yourself look more hardcore.

Do you think there is more of a focus on education because of it, than there was before?



Wayward5oul -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:22:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

Any fiction book , with any amount of BDSM, could point any number of people in the direction of real people, doing what they enjoy. Doesn't have to have the literary appeal of War and Peace, but just to be vivid enough to pique imaginations and spark a desire for like-minded people. Fifty Shades just happens to have hit a wider reading audience, who weren't afraid of being judged, and talked about it. Even though they had no intention of participating past a mild tingle in their nether regions.

Valid point. After all, one of the things that I hear a lot when advising new people on how to communicate desires is to find visual imagery or erotic literature that appeals to them. Something that piques their specific curiosity, rather than sticking to some go-to piece of literature.



Wayward5oul -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:26:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Did you ever see Grub Girl? Not Japanese (or any good, come to that), but it is a film about an undead hooker who ends up running a brothel and does spend part of the film working as a pro Domme.

Dammit, curiosity...going to check Netflix and Amazon...



Wayward5oul -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:28:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
I think I read exit to eden first, when it came out, Im not sure how I got a copy.

I read that, and loved it. Was looking forward to the movie when it came out, but the movie was different from what I expected. Although Dana Delaney does 'hot' very well.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 9:48:30 AM)

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Do you think there is more of a focus on education because of it, than there was before?

No, but there is a whole lot more hipster style "I was into it before it was cool" going on.



WhoreMods -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 10:02:10 AM)

So the real beef the BDSM community has with EL James is a hipster thing? I like that.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 10:11:33 AM)

Well, that and the shitty writing.



WhoreMods -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 10:15:26 AM)

I was hoping that one was more of a factor, but you know, a lot of people 'round hereabouts like John Norman and Pauline Reage, shitty writing and all...



OsideGirl -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 11:00:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

So the real beef the BDSM community has with EL James is a hipster thing? I like that.

That wasn't it for me.

For me it was that it seemed that it was written by someone that really doesn't know what she's talking about.



LilJuly76 -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 11:55:53 AM)

I have a theory about vanilla people, a lot of them are kicky and they don't even know it. books like that just pique their interest.

I know a vanilla married woman, knows nothing of BDSM, accept to think it's a sex thing but she tells me a lot about her married life and what she tells me even though she doesn't know it, she's living a D/s marriage, her husband decides everything, even who she can go out with and where she can go and who she can be friends with. he doesn't abuse her or anything but he does call the shots in everything in their lives.



WhoreMods -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 12:36:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

I have a theory about vanilla people, a lot of them are kicky and they don't even know it.

Would it sound catty to say that I've heard the very same theory about straight people propounded by those who are who wished the guys they liked the look of swung the other way? (I'd say more flexible in gender terms, but that isn't the case: some of these lads were fundamentalist homosexuals, dig?)



LadyPact -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 1:33:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
When I first started visiting the forums here, there were all kinds of 50 Shades references, threads, people begging 'please no more 50 Shades' threads, etc. And there were a few people commenting that they had stopped going to IRL events because of how the atmosphere was changing with all the 50 Shades newbies. I was just wondering if anyone here now had gone in that direction, returned if they had, or saw it with people they knew.

Thank you for the clarification.

This is going to sound really weird. I hope you'll take it in the spirit with which it's intended.

Years ago, before the whole FSoG thing, I went to this presentation that was given by this guy named Master Skip Chasey. It wasn't really what I thought it was going to be when I was looking at the program guide. Turned out to be something pretty darn amazing. It introduced me to this concept called "The Generations of Leather."

The Generations of Leather is this ideal that says we will always have an Old Guard and a New Guard. Not THE Old Guard. (I can almost hear people cringing at the mention of it.) Instead, we have these generations of leather. Each generation represents a significant change. The evolution of what leather is today.

A part of this is the history of leather. Understanding about how it went from the 'gay men only' club to where we are today. How lesbians became accepted (and yes, Dykes on Bikes was a real thing). The AIDS crisis. The het people. People of color. The TNG's. Fet, that brought us "tourists" and so on.

In all of this, these generations of leather... There was always an "Old Guard" that didn't want to see the change and a "New Guard" that wanted to evolve. Every time, every generation, we saw certain members of the current "Old Guard" choose to slip away. Usually, with something on their lips about how the "new' were *ruining* leather, diluting it, or some kind of thing.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, we leather folks, we've had some practice at it. FSoG wasn't a terrible blip on the radar. An annoyance? Yes, because just like you BDSM folks, we had to deal with the influx. Resist the urge to rip that copy of FSoG out of their hands and replace it with something like "SM101" or "Screw the Roses".

We've done it before. You BDSM folks are just having to evaluate what/how this has changed *YOUR* community. Always better to go forward than be stuck in the mud.




LilJuly76 -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 2:42:59 PM)

side question LadyPact was just reading your post and wondered if Master Skip is from California?



LilJuly76 -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 2:46:33 PM)

no not catty and oy I meant kinky not kicky

in my vanilla life I'm very boring , when people here what kind of lifestyle I like they tend to look at me odd because on the normal existance I'm well boring, in my alternative life I end up doing things that I would never imagine doing on a regular day.



WhoreMods -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 2:51:42 PM)

That's part of the fun of it, I always thought. [;)]



LilJuly76 -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 3:17:28 PM)

that is true. I spent most of my vacation sick but I'm nearly better and today was the first day I coughed only a little. Tomorrow my Dominant is taking me away for the night for some BDSM stuff since he didn't see me all last week, he saw me on Tuesday, and then tomorrow and Saturday before I go back to work on Monday, being sick is not the best way to spend vacation.

ps I meant hear not here-I don't know what's wrong with my brain today.



LadyPact -> RE: Post-Apocalypse BDSM (8/4/2016 3:22:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LilJuly76
side question LadyPact was just reading your post and wondered if Master Skip is from California?

He is, in fact. Today, anyway.

If you should be interested, you can find him on google. Even some youtube videos. :)



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