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7 cops were ambushed in one day and what did they do to bring it on themselves, they were protecting a BLM demonstration.

Dont matter, cops lives arent worth two cents when compared to black lives, at least that is the why I am beginning to read it.

So far for 2016, 38 officers shot dead in the line of duty.

And while people take to the streets to protest the killing of a black man in the US, how many of those people take to the streets to protest killing a cop.

The Black Lives Matter movement has yet to denounce the New Black Panther's call for blacks to kill cops, have not denounced the people who kill cops from ambush, and only a small percentage of the marchers on the streets the night that 7 officers were ambushed and killed even bothered to show up for the memorial.

How about this solution.

Repeal the Posse Comitatus Act, bring all troops stationed over seas home, and let those guys police the cities where they seem to celebrate a cop getting killed.

Either that or eliminate police patrols in any neighborhood or community where a cop has been killed and none of the citizens seem to give a fuck.

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I completely agree with your point about confronting people (especially at gunpoint) who are not "active shooters" as you put it.

Why exactly do cops pull their weapons at unarmed drivers at DUI checkpoints just because they are refusing to comply and show their licence and insurance? If you can't deal with a gobby member of the public who isn't physically threatening you, you're in the wrong job.

There are a couple of reasons, most common sense when you think about it.

1) The officer has no clue if there is or is not a weapon in the car, and considering how many officers have been shot or injured in routine traffic stops, you cant blame the procedure.

2) When someone refuses to comply with an officer's instructions, they are committing a criminal act, and depending on the severity of the individuals actions could be as minor as a misdemeanor or as major as a felony.

We're all on the same place with a suspect waving a gun around. No matter what you are doing with the gun, if you get shot by the police, you were doing something so risky you can hardly complain.

But am I really the only person who thinks it's not okay to point a gun at someone just because they have broken a minor law?

Couldn't it just be a bit counter-productive?

Really, what do you define as a minor law? Maybe we should abolish those nanny state laws that aren't worth enforcing. Why don't you name them for me.

Let's see, you enter my property in the middle of the night to take things that I've traded parts of my productive life to acquire. How about that?

Maybe, you confront me and/or my family and threaten physical harm in order to literally frighten me into giving you stuff that I've worked portions of my life to have. How about that?

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Has your nation run out of innocent savage darkies to put to sleep

I think if the Americans give themselves guns, then their death squads can mow down whom they feel like with impunity...and whom they may miss I am certain a 2 year olde can blow its mums brains out from the back seat of the car (not an isolated incident) and the school/college population is mown down at a rate I need a calculator to keep count off...savage darkies do no count for the are worthless and they asked for it because all blacks look shifty, when they are not bleeding the system dry with their criminality,at the power known 1/10000 of corprations with the manner known as no swindle. and heinous skin tone


Gun death per decade is almost my countries population = 5.3 million. I am utterly fascinated if they can gun down themselves faster than they can breed

i barely tolerate you and you are one of the better on here

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

i don't know about what kind of Mayberry RFD you worked in but here they get serious good money and a benefit package you wouldn't believe. Plus if they kill anyone they get two weeks off with pay. Maybe things are/were different there but today, up here in the city, being a cop pays pretty good.


You think they should be fired, till it is determined they are innocent, of kept on duty till they find they are guilty?

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I dont give a rats ass what they are getting paid, if they arent happy they can get another job, that does not mean we should accept shoddy service from them. Why are you aplogizing for them?

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No we aren't, ML thinks that waving a gun around is ok if you are i an op0en carry state.

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I am flawed, not that you would understand. And do you now I am okay with that and it has been a while since one warmed my bed and skin beside me, other than a hot water bottle and I am led believe they are all fakes or 99% liars, non verified behold there realities scum of the earth., or cheats or parasites – x my 12 years – less you declare me an anomaly...I have never made that secret times many epochs. One can conclude messes like you are in demand and essence of souls and infinities are not

I said the population of my country is 5.3 million (Scotland) and within one decade (that’s 10 years) America slaughters’ itself at the rate the of 4millin plus – how did yo see it dffft before you constructed your lies, sophistry

There a few verified on here – I am creature, you and almost are not – what of your kindred carries weight – the density of all your kind exceeds mine and the froth of all enablers the many

But you said 530,000 people a year are killed in this country per year via firearms , are you crazy, or just stupid? BamaD I declare thee a liar and damn liar and fuking idiot with and IQ that would not worry cold steaming turd riddles wit antrax, but your numbers are the many on here are they not

Do you know how many real people have mailed me on hereover 12 years = 1
Scotland = 0
England zero
Canada Zero
USA oddly one form albany and you and your mess drove her from here

You all sicken me or behold I
Decisions x 12 years = 0

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No we aren't, ML thinks that waving a gun around is ok if you are i an op0en carry state.

I never said that, Bama , and you are shitty mind reader.

We are waiting for the video that shows the vic waving his gun around. Oh really, there is no evidence to support that claim? Yeah, sure.

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I dont give a rats ass what they are getting paid, if they arent happy they can get another job, that does not mean we should accept shoddy service from them. Why are you aplogizing for them?

His point was that the poor salary & working conditions attract barely qualified candidates to the Force.

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

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I completely agree with your point about confronting people (especially at gunpoint) who are not "active shooters" as you put it.

Why exactly do cops pull their weapons at unarmed drivers at DUI checkpoints just because they are refusing to comply and show their licence and insurance? If you can't deal with a gobby member of the public who isn't physically threatening you, you're in the wrong job.

There are a couple of reasons, most common sense when you think about it.

1) The officer has no clue if there is or is not a weapon in the car, and considering how many officers have been shot or injured in routine traffic stops, you cant blame the procedure.

2) When someone refuses to comply with an officer's instructions, they are committing a criminal act, and depending on the severity of the individuals actions could be as minor as a misdemeanor or as major as a felony.

We're all on the same place with a suspect waving a gun around. No matter what you are doing with the gun, if you get shot by the police, you were doing something so risky you can hardly complain.

But am I really the only person who thinks it's not okay to point a gun at someone just because they have broken a minor law?

Couldn't it just be a bit counter-productive?

Really, what do you define as a minor law? Maybe we should abolish those nanny state laws that aren't worth enforcing. Why don't you name them for me.

Let's see, you enter my property in the middle of the night to take things that I've traded parts of my productive life to acquire. How about that?

Maybe, you confront me and/or my family and threaten physical harm in order to literally frighten me into giving you stuff that I've worked portions of my life to have. How about that?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

We're all on the same place with a suspect waving a gun around. No matter what you are doing with the gun, if you get shot by the police, you were doing something so risky you can hardly complain.

But am I really the only person who thinks it's not okay to point a gun at someone just because they have broken a minor law?

Couldn't it just be a bit counter-productive?

No we aren't, ML thinks that waving a gun around is ok if you are i an op0en carry state.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

I wrote about a thousand victims, not just this one. Besides, wasn't this the case where the police received a call of a man acting strangely? Maybe they should have considered him as possibly mentally ill.

So now you are going to punish them???

From three feet awayYeah right???

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


I dont give a rats ass what they are getting paid, if they arent happy they can get another job, that does not mean we should accept shoddy service from them. Why are you aplogizing for them?

His point was that the poor salary & working conditions attract barely qualified candidates to the Force.

Exactly.

And if cities do not want to pay for the best, then they deserve what they get or no police protection at all.

The best qualified are leaving police forces in droves to go to forces that pay better and they know they will be hired in a heart beat, or they are getting out of the job altogether leaving men and women on the force that barely meet the minimum standards in all qualifications.

Or to put it bluntly, men and women that barely pass the psych eval for temper and motivations for being cops.


Or maybe you will understand it this way, police departments are being put in the position to hire people who want the badge and gun for the power they think it gives them.

Sorry, but those are the very people you do not want being cops.

I had one deputy here in the county tell me my wolf hybrid was illegal to own. Since I know there are no breed specific laws in the county, I asked him to cite the ordinance.

After he stalled a few minutes, I very politely informed him that as of that minute, the county had no breed specific laws, and the law that was considered by the state had been voted down. I then informed his watch commander (a guy I go hunting with every year) about the incident.

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ORIGINAL: longwayhome

We're all on the same place with a suspect waving a gun around. No matter what you are doing with the gun, if you get shot by the police, you were doing something so risky you can hardly complain.

But am I really the only person who thinks it's not okay to point a gun at someone just because they have broken a minor law?

Couldn't it just be a bit counter-productive?

No we aren't, ML thinks that waving a gun around is ok if you are i an op0en carry state.

Not sure he was exactly saying that, but even then, I certainly wouldn't blame the police for being safe rather than sorry and taking a shot if someone was refusing to comply and holding a weapon.

The issue is how you act proportionately when someone isn't holding a weapon. I get that it is not an easy issue when the member of the public might have one concealed and an officer is unsighted and has to approach with care.