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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 10:37:10 AM   
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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 10:37:59 AM   
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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 10:51:20 AM   
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Presumably she's quite keen for a label that excuses her from calling her other half a bottom given some of the shite she's been spouting at male submissives.


Well would you call him a dominant? Because he's labelled as a dominant right now.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:08:23 AM   
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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:18:23 AM   
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Presumably she's quite keen for a label that excuses her from calling her other half a bottom given some of the shite she's been spouting at male submissives.

How about Situationally Submissive. Could apply to most all non 24/7 TPE subbies

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:19:35 AM   
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Perhaps they should add another category to 'Orientation' on this site... 'Bedroom only submissive' or something like that.




Fetlife has that label (together with a million others).

It doesn't help clarify a thing over there.

You still have to talk to people to figure out who they are as an individual, because everybody used each one of those million labels to mean something entirely different.

Hell, you can't even count on knowing EXACTLY what a person means on there when they chose -what seems to be- such a clear cut and dry label as 'Gorean'.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:19:56 AM   
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If he's submitting to you sexually he's not a dominant, no.


Well tell that to MariaB because her husband is listed as a Dominant on their profile despite how she just described him for us here in this thread.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:21:41 AM   
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Presumably she's quite keen for a label that excuses her from calling her other half a bottom given some of the shite she's been spouting at male submissives.

How about Situationally Submissive. Could apply to most all non 24/7 TPE subbies


Nope, that would apply to almost nobody I know.

90% of my friends who you would label 'situation submissive' self-identify as 'slave' and would still do so if the 'situation submissive' label was available.

Labels don't mean squat because they have a different meaning for everybody using them. The only way to find out what somebody is is by talking to them and figuring out what they are to you, and to others they engage with.
At that point insisting that they're something other than what they self-identify as based on your own definitions of how labels should be used would be offensive, because there are no community accepted definitions for any of the labels, and as such your definitions of the label isn't any more valid than theirs.



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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:26:24 AM   
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If he's submitting to you sexually he's not a dominant, no.


Well tell that to MariaB because her husband is listed as a Dominant on their profile despite how she just described him for us here in this thread.


So am I, because I would related to anybody whom I meet for a relationship on this site as their Dominant. Despite the fact that I'm submissive (or Dominant, or switch play partner only) in relationship to other people I already have established relationships with.

Same might apply for her husband, just because he's submissive to her in the bedroom, doesn't mean that he can't be Dominant in relationship to another (or all other) person(s) he might meet on this site.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 11:49:36 AM   
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Presumably she's quite keen for a label that excuses her from calling her other half a bottom given some of the shite she's been spouting at male submissives.

How about Situationally Submissive. Could apply to most all non 24/7 TPE subbies

I think the term you're looking for there, is "switch".

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 12:14:39 PM   
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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 12:48:07 PM   
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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 1:28:26 PM   
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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 3:41:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure if you were around at the time, WM ... but back in the days of yore, this sort of subject was hammered out repeatedly, and everyone would devote their profoundest thought to it. One of the assumptions was that, yes, if he was a submissive in the bedroom department, he was labelled a 'submissive'. I think that was pretty much taken for granted. He could be world heavyweight boxing champion, but he'd still be a sub.

One of the common conclusions though - and perhaps of more interest to tamaka - was the commonly-stated preference from femdoms in their 'ideal sub male'. This was of a male who was strong (howsoever defined) but who would submit to the femdom in question. They got off on a strong man who'd 'give up their strength' for them. A few femdoms would actually want to 'take' the man's strength from him forcibly, or by wile, but that was rare. Most of them seemed to want the man to give it away to them, willingly. Inspire it, that is.

For me, I worked it out long ago that being a sub male was inherently a paradoxical thing. There were two sides of you, that couldn't be homogenised into one, comfy, easy and logical state. Beneath that: I never have worked out how being a sub male is 'rational'. But, then, an awful lot of things we do that get our dicks hard or our growlers wet seem pretty damned impervious to rational explanation. Fortunately, one doesn't always have to explicate a thing one does in order to enjoy it.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 3:46:02 PM   
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But, then, an awful lot of things we do that get our dicks hard or our growlers wet seem pretty damned impervious to rational explanation.

So very true, some of the things that really get me going these days I try not to think about to deeply, as they are kinda disgusting/revolting.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 3:53:53 PM   
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But, then, an awful lot of things we do that get our dicks hard or our growlers wet seem pretty damned impervious to rational explanation.

So very true, some of the things that really get me going these days I try not to think about to deeply, as they are kinda disgusting/revolting.


I know what you mean. If you told me when i was younger what i do now... honestly there are no words for what my reaction would've been.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 4:18:22 PM   
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So very true, some of the things that really get me going these days I try not to think about to deeply, as they are kinda disgusting/revolting.


God, you should see the inside of *my* mind.

Well, maybe not. I read an article once that had that, while there were more male perverts than female perverts, at the *extreme ends* of perversion there were more females than males. That was really counterintuitive to me. In most things - intelligence, lunacy, whatever - the extremes are populated by males. Not so with sexual predilections, this article claimed.

The article in question kicked off with the case of a female necrophiliac. She'd got a job at a funeral parlour. There were frequent periods in which the hearse, carrying the coffin, would take hours longer than expected to reach its destination. Yep, she was driving the hearse down this or that quiet English country lane and getting it together with the stiff. Shocking, very. (Though as far as I could see it was a victimless crime.)

I've already gathered that you're deeply disgusting in your interests, TDC, from a few comments that you've made here and there. Are you worse than that?

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 4:35:14 PM   
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I read an article once that had that, while there were more male perverts than female perverts, at the *extreme ends* of perversion there were more females than males.

based on various online porn stories, I would tend to agree. Many of the more extreme stories out there are written by women.
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Are you worse than that?

No. necrophilia is a limit for me. However, I guess it depends on what one considers "worse".

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 4:50:10 PM   
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So very true, some of the things that really get me going these days I try not to think about to deeply, as they are kinda disgusting/revolting.


God, you should see the inside of *my* mind.



I think in a bizarre way it's a constant pursuit to get emotionally closer with the people you're playing with.

This instinctual feeling that "If I can share that with them, that side of me, and they still cherish me after we're done, what we have must really be meaningful, because it's not like I could just do this with anybody and have them still accept/respect/love me.".

Its why you get closer and closer to the edge while you get older. The stuff you did before, (and frequently) is normalized by repetitive, and so you get driven to seek a new horizon of 'extremer than before' in order to get that renewed feeling of 'taboos shared'.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/10/2016 4:50:13 PM   
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No. necrophilia is a limit for me. However, I guess it depends on what one considers "worse".


Well, have you ever bonked an American?

Ooooonly joking ....

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