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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:11:28 PM   
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Less secure in that men no longer lead... they prefer to be led around by women. Like they are abdicating their responsibility to be strong, keep us safe and secure... and it just pretty much scares me... alot. And it scares me that they might not keep us safe from men who are still strong in other world cultures.



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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:13:30 PM   
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I'm not anyone's sock. Sorry to disappoint you. I am a woman who feels that men who want to be led around by the nose ring are rather pathetic, even if i can appreciate other things about them, such as their skills or intellect.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:15:53 PM   
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I'm not anyone's sock. Sorry to disappoint you. I am a woman who feels that men who want to be led around by the nose ring are rather pathetic, even if i can appreciate other things about them, such as their skills or intellect.

And as a submissive, that is what you want? To be led around by the nose ring?

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:21:47 PM   
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As a submissive... i want my Master to be pleased with me. If it pleases Him to lead me by a nose-ring, then that's the way it will be.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:30:59 PM   
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Less secure in that men no longer lead... they prefer to be led around by women. Like they are abdicating their responsibility to be strong, keep us safe and secure... and it just pretty much scares me... alot.

Oh dear me

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:51:57 PM   
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Epic stupidity is epic. Sock or not.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 1:54:31 PM   
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As a submissive... i want my Master to be pleased with me. If it pleases Him to lead me by a nose-ring, then that's the way it will be.

That's not what I asked. Going off what you said, I asked about you. You specifically referenced submissive men as wanting to be led around by the nose ring. You formed an opinion about submissive men based on what they wanted, not what their Mistress wants for them. Are you now saying that submissive men do what they want and submissive women do what their Master wants?

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:01:58 PM   
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I am saying that submissive men want to do whatever their Mistress wants them to do.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:10:08 PM   
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Clearly you are not prepared to back up your statement.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:14:15 PM   
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Clearly you are not prepared to back up your statement.


I'm sorry... i don't know exactly what you're getting at. Led around by a nosering is an expression. Basically it means that you follow along with what someone else wants.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:21:51 PM   
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Clearly you are not prepared to back up your statement.

Only her Master can order her to do that.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:36:24 PM   
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Less secure in that men no longer lead... they prefer to be led around by women. Like they are abdicating their responsibility to be strong, keep us safe and secure... and it just pretty much scares me... alot.

Oh dear me


I wish you'd been there when I was having a convo in my local pub with a couple of other male subs soon after we'd all seen 'The Bodyguard'. We all had the same fantasy about being Kevin Costner's character in real life.


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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:43:35 PM   
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Less secure in that men no longer lead... they prefer to be led around by women. Like they are abdicating their responsibility to be strong, keep us safe and secure... and it just pretty much scares me... alot.

Oh dear me


I wish you'd been there when I was having a convo in my local pub with a couple of other male subs soon after we'd all seen 'The Bodyguard'. We all had the same fantasy about being Kevin Costner's character in real life.



: ) Yes and you'll notice the power exchange when she started doing what he told her to and not vice- versa. : )

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 2:50:24 PM   
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: ) Yes and you'll notice the power exchange when she started doing what he told her to and not vice- versa. : )



Yep, true. But it was still basically a modern take on 'knight protector of Queen' thing, wasn't it?

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 3:01:36 PM   
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Yes true... it was. I liked it except the ending.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 3:53:27 PM   
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Clearly you are not prepared to back up your statement.


I'm sorry... i don't know exactly what you're getting at. Led around by a nosering is an expression. Basically it means that you follow along with what someone else wants.

No, being led around by the nose ring implies much more than just doing what someone else wants. It has a negative connotation to it, which actually goes with your earlier statement about submissive men being weak, not protective, they aren't leaders, they abdicate responsibility. Those are not things that a submissive does because they are ordered to, those are personality traits that are not accurate descriptions of any submissives I know, male or female.

I know a lot of submissive men AND women who are nothing like that. Including myself. You being submissive, you must apply this description to yourself as well. If this true? If not, why not?

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 3:57:41 PM   
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Clearly you are not prepared to back up your statement.


I'm sorry... i don't know exactly what you're getting at. Led around by a nosering is an expression. Basically it means that you follow along with what someone else wants.



Are you a weak little doormat? Are you a pathetic, sniveling little non entity?

So say for instance you do every last whim of your Dom, and he's happy with you, that makes you happy right. Now, Peon is with any number if the queuing hoards of women on here waiting to snap him up, he wants nothing more than to please them, they are pleased with his service just as your Dom is pleased with yours, and that, I'm assuming pleases him. The world here has not fallen apart, because outside in the everyday world there is nothing to say that Peon isn't exactly the man you assume a man is supposed to be. Because walking down the street as a complete stranger would you know what his kink is. Do you scream walking doormat as you walk down the street? or are you just a woman, assuming you're not someone's dodgy sock here, that is the 'same' as any other strong woman, but has a slant for the sub side?

I haven't met Peon in person, but as the world hasn't gone tits up over his preference I'm going to assume that his macho levels are just dandy.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 4:21:49 PM   
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I understand what you're saying and what you are talking about is more of a bedroom submissive. I really can't relate because to me that is kinky sex play. When i say i'm submissive, i am talking alot more than the bedroom. I know i am very old- fashioned compared to most women these days. I am strong when under the leadership of a strong man. I don't want anymore responsibility than I have to have. I like to defer to the man in my life's authority... the buck stops with him so- to- speak. So perhaps we are talking apples and oranges here.

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 4:26:00 PM   
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I totally don't get it
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Don't worry, tamaka ... there's somebody for everybody in this world.


: ) i just don't get why a woman would want that kind of dynamic... To even think like that not only doesn't do anything for me sexually, but actually makes me feel like the world is much less secure.


I don't want to Domme him, but I'd fuck his brains out given the chance

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RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? - 11/1/2016 4:29:19 PM   
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I totally don't get it
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Don't worry, tamaka ... there's somebody for everybody in this world.


: ) i just don't get why a woman would want that kind of dynamic... To even think like that not only doesn't do anything for me sexually, but actually makes me feel like the world is much less secure.


I don't want to Domme him, but I'd fuck his brains out given the chance


Ok now... see that i totally get! : )

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