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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
BTW anyone thinking that trump is to blame for racism is not dealing with reality
That he has shown some certain dipshit americans that its acceptable to openly be the ignorant fuckwads they have always been, he is simply the catalyst of ignorance in our time.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
BTW anyone thinking that trump is to blame for racism is not dealing with reality
That he has shown some certain dipshit americans that its acceptable to openly be the ignorant fuckwads they have always been, he is simply the catalyst of ignorance in our time.

Does anyone actually think this?
It sounds like something BamaD would claim liberals think to make himself feel smarter.

The fact that it has to be such a ridiculous straw man to work shows just how difficult a task it is.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.

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Mass shooting at Ohio St leas to calls for tighter gun control from all the usual suspects. Only problem was he had a knife, the only one with a gun was the campus cop who stopped him. One of the first to make the call do to what he called a "mass shooting" came from Tim Kaine.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.

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ORIGINAL: SuBrett
Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.

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ORIGINAL: SuBrett

Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.

What liberals?? Seriously... who actually brought up gun control? And even if this wasn't just a figment of your imagination as usual, why would it somehow mean the gun control argument is inappropriate if they actually believed it was a shooting?

At this point, mass shootings are simply a fact of life. The gun control argument isn't suddenly a liberal plot to disarm Americans because this time he used a knife and a car instead. It SHOULDN'T be something that just gets trotted out in the media every time a mass shooting occurs, and then put away with nothing done about it after Trump says something stupid again... but that's the country you're living in.

And if it's such a 'horror', why are you using it to make fun of liberals who apparently started arguing for gun control instead of feeling sorry for the victims?

At least my claim was backed by news reports who said the attacker was upset about how the media portrayed Muslims... I suspect your claim is backed by the voices in your head that also make actual communication impossible.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: SuBrett
Everything that we know about the suspect this far except for the fact that he happens to be Muslim suggests that's this is someone with mental health issues, not someone who's been radicalized.

It doesn't sound to me like he had mental health issues... at least, not obvious ones.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
He is to blame for his actions, but of course it is Trumps fault and he was fighting back against all of those racist laws that Trump has already passed.

You are a member of the KKK, but of course you only hate Muslims and not other minorities.

How does that straw man suit the king of straw men?

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Very good in a thread about libs making fools of themselves talking about the horror of a man walking into Ohio state shooting people and using as a straw man to push gun control when he didn't even have a gun (proving they were looking for an excuse, not a reason to issue their calls) you two try to deflect with attacks on me and arguments about whether Trump is a racist or just the people who voted for him.

What liberals?? Seriously... who actually brought up gun control? And even if this wasn't just a figment of your imagination as usual, why would it somehow mean the gun control argument is inappropriate if they actually believed it was a shooting?

At this point, mass shootings are simply a fact of life. The gun control argument isn't suddenly a liberal plot to disarm Americans because this time he used a knife and a car instead. It SHOULDN'T be something that just gets trotted out in the media every time a mass shooting occurs, and then put away with nothing done about it after Trump says something stupid again... but that's the country you're living in.

And if it's such a 'horror', why are you using it to make fun of liberals who apparently started arguing for gun control instead of feeling sorry for the victims?

At least my claim was backed by news reports who said the attacker was upset about how the media portrayed Muslims... I suspect your claim is backed by the voices in your head that also make actual communication impossible.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Maybe the point should be.... the right man had a gun... it was the only gun needed...one in the hands of a professional not a yahoo... to stop a man with a knife that, although he tried, was unable to kill anyone... unlike AR15's against children.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Yea right... it is proven all the time someone is shot and killed or injured by accident...what a dumb ass statement.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Maybe the point should be.... the right man had a gun... it was the only gun needed...one in the hands of a professional not a yahoo... to stop a man with a knife that, although he tried, was unable to kill anyone... unlike AR15's against children.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
Beautiful, ya have this new liberal buzz word "self-radicalization" and then ya top it off with blaming Trump and Fox news. That's freakin priceless. Where do you guys come up with this stuff ?

Self-radicalization is when someone with no direct ties to any terrorist organization decides to carry out an attack... Dylan Roof was the same. He wasn't a member of any radical right-wing group, but his attacks were racially motivated.

And okay, so what 'media' do you think that the attacker was so upset about?

Obviously the attacker himself is to blame, but it seems pretty obvious to me that he was deeply affected by the ways in which Trump has already made America great.