Nnanji
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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Vincent, using the dictionary definitions of the terms "sexist" and "racist", please explain exactly how what these students did fit those definitions.
I don't understand why you are having difficulty with the notion that sexist behavior might include expressing opinions about the sexual desirability, or not, of young women by their appearance, especially when they did not invite such expressions. What you are condoning is a breech of consent quite similar to laying hands on a woman at your whim.
um because words matter and the dictionary is typically a good place to find their meaning.
as i said, i have a problem when lefties re-define words for their own purpose.
what the players did may indeed be offensive, it is not however, racist nor sexist---except for to people who do what i just said.
bounty, the definitions you gave
Definition of sexism
1 : prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women
2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex
From the examples I gave in an earlier post:
“Here you’ll see me with my main bitch ***** and my side hoe *****. Also notice the bump where my penis should be. That’s my penis. The upperclassmen know not to fuck around with these two lovelies, but freshman be warned: touch either of my meat slabs and I will fucking end you. Especially *****. God knows the little one can’t protect herself.”
def #2 - Relegating women to social roles that do nothing more than fulfill sexual urges i.e. main bitch, side hoe, meatslab
In the email, the team member refers to one woman as “a walking STD,” and writes, “Everyone needs their meatslab,”referring to another. He describes a third woman – “Without being too mean, she is a stuck up, snobby, bitch; AKA the perfect formal date for the desperate members of our team.”
def #2 - Also relegating women's social roles to fulfilling sexual urges and a certain negative stereotype serving as the proper date for less fortunate team members
In what appears to have been a yearly team tradition, a member of Harvard’s 2012 men’s soccer team produced a document that, in sexually explicit terms, individually assessed and evaluated freshmen recruits from the 2012 women’s soccer team based on their perceived physical attractiveness and sexual appeal.
The author and his teammates referred to the nine-page document as a “scouting report,” and the author circulated the document over the group’s email list on July 31, 2012.
In lewd terms, the author of the report individually evaluated each female recruit, assigning them numerical scores and writing paragraph-long assessments of the women. The document also included photographs of each woman, most of which, the author wrote, were culled from Facebook or the Internet.
The author of the “report” often included sexually explicit descriptions of the women. He wrote of one woman that “she looks like the kind of girl who both likes to dominate, and likes to be dominated.”
Each woman was assigned a hypothetical sexual “position” in addition to her position on the soccer field.
Def #2 - relegating women to social roles of fulfilling sexual urges, female identity became based on sexual 'stats' like you would find on a baseball card (hence the document being called a scouting report by the team members) with physical appearance ranked numerically, and females identified by sexual positions
Definition of racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principlesb : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination
The texts in question include wrestlers regaling each other with descriptions of their fellow students such as “fish pussy,” “ugly socially awkward cunts,” and “nigs.” any further explanation necessary?
These are just a handful of examples culled from many texts/emails/docs, some that go back years. Racism is present, though not as widespread as the sexism. These exchanges are the very definition of sexism.
Although I agree with you on most of what you said, I believe you are missing one point. VML, and his ilk, believe that because there exists a patriarchal society women have no power and since they have no power by definition they cannot be sexist. VML, and his ilk, believe because this is a white racist society that POC have no power and since they have no power they cannot be racist.
In VML's world, women and POC can say and do what ever they want, no matter how offensive, because they have no power and are therefore merely reacting, properly, to a white male racist, sexist society.
You'll notice VML said "priveledged white boys" and still doesn't get its a racist comment. When I asked him, since Obama went to Harvard is he a priveledged black boy? It went over his head and he eventually said no because Obama was black he had no power (.the president of the U.S. Has no power) so he wasn't a priveledged black boy. In VML's world this thought is very confusing. Well, a lot of things are confusing to VML.
The point is that you are correct but you are not seeing the evil juxtaposition of VML's world where women and POC are victims and can do as they wish with impunity and the only proper response for white males when women or POC misbehave is to shut up and accept it because their very existence caused that improper behavior.
Most people don't pay enough attention to the evil little barbs people like VML add to their philosophy. It's something like code words, which they like to pretend white males use. You can see it where he says I'm trying to inch out of the original OP. He told a story, a racist story. But he told it his way and he needs to control the discussion so he can define the rules of the conversation. He can't let in any thought, to the OP, that may show what a vile person he is or what evil ideas he espouses. It's a trick to control all discusses by defining word meanings so that his world view is all that is allowed to be considered.
< Message edited by Nnanji -- 12/21/2016 10:11:57 AM >
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