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Maybe your hard work in building the best of all civilisations kept you from getting informations by clicking external links.

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Perhaps you have hit on the solution to your own problem. If you don't like how it is for men in the western world, pack your fucking bags and move to Saudi Arabia. Maybe then you will be safe from those evil feminists. In fact if you promised never to post after you get there, I bet I could raise enough on these boards to get you air fare.

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While that may be true, has your feminist friend ever met respectmen? My guess is the attitude he is seeing from the women in his life has more to do with him than men in general. And isn't it much easier to claim they hate all men then to accept that it might be just him.

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It's not the fault of men that more women won't go in these professions. If it is, well that mean's it's the fault of women why more males are not school teachers or child careers.

You can't have it both ways.

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Maybe your hard work in building the best of all civilisations kept you from getting informations by clicking external links.

I certainly saw the link, but you misinterpreted what I say as usual.

Let's take a closer look at your link. How does a very small percentage of female workers in hard labouring collaborate to the effort done by mostly men? How does that take away the argument that most of what we use is mostly made by men? Did you actually acknowledge the wording of the link? The wording certainly didn't exclude women.

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It's not the fault of men that more women won't go in these professions. If it is, well that mean's it's the fault of women why more males are not school teachers or child careers.

You can't have it both ways.

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I suspect it's a lot simpler than that: he won't move to an Arab country because he's incapable of growing a beard.

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It's warranted to hate feminists as they fucking hate men.

Strange how one of the most feminist women I know was recently really upset about George Michael dying. I think that she probably did cry when she heard the news. She talked at length about what a great man he was. Not much sign of any hatred there.

Are you sure that feminists hate men? The woman I mentioned seems to get on quite well with quite a lot of men. Maybe she is not a real feminist? Because she doesn't hate men enough?

While that may be true, has your feminist friend ever met respectmen? My guess is the attitude he is seeing from the women in his life has more to do with him than men in general. And isn't it much easier to claim they hate all men then to accept that it might be just him.

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So a percentage of meaning: every woman between 16 and 60 cleaning up the post war rubble and rebuilding a country, is ... I quote: "very small"? (about 70+ % of population btw).
So you "looked closely" at that link, but didn't open and read it.

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Did you actually read your own headline for your own thread? "Every brick in every building" - it is your claim that this is "a reminder to the men ..."

Yes the wording certainly does exclude women.

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Almost every single brick.

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Almost every inch of road

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Almost every watt of electricity

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Men end up doing the vast majority of these shitty difficult things.

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Don't you have female engineers, technicians, architects, etc etc in Australia? Just asking because we have. Maybe there aren't any in Australia, maybe you just don't know about it - the same way you don't know what you write in your threads.

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You ignored my replies (#18) to your bullshit, Nicky. Too much logic for you? When RM can't take the heat he runs off and makes a new thread.

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Race, gender, and sexual preference have long been targets of social control and oppression. Most people know that.

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Seriously, you have world wide statistics?

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Male victims are more rare and more likely to be economically self-sufficient. Most people know that.

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On average, women sports are discouraged at an early age either institutionally or by social pressure. Most people know that.

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It all comes down to the choices available to women. Yes, we all know that too.

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So ummmm how exactly does that justify ignoring one disparity when it comes to gender but not another disparity, when it comes to race?

How are you exactly arguing and refuting my point? I just don't see it.

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Dude, all you have to do is look up who is more likely going be a victim of violent crime. One hint, google. *rolls eyes*

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There is no such thing as "rare" when it comes to being a victim of DV from any gender. It happens to men all the time, there is nothing rare about it.

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Speaking of being economically self sufficient. This is plainly false as the vast majority of homeless people are MEN. The vast majority of people at the very bottom are MEN. The glass ceiling ALWAYS gets talked about. The glass cellar NEVER gets talked about.

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I've never heard such rubbish in my life. The fact of the matter is that when it comes to professional sports players, it all depends on your performance,

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Whatever choice is available to men is available to women. It's not the fault of men if women happen to want kids. No one is pointing a gun at women's heads while telling them that they have to make different choices.

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I said race, gender and sexual preference have long been targets of social control and oppression, Nobody brought up the disparity between blacks and whites in the justice system. You're making shit up.

It is hard to know what your point is exactly except that you are afraid of feminists and you are an angry child.

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So, you have no worldwide statistics. I thought not.

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Yeah, no. I looked at some of the studies you provided. In one or two there was an attempt to stretch the number of male victims to 12% or 15% but admittedly on speculation. The hard numbers on victims repeatedly put women at 96% or so and men at 4-6% and that includes male on male same sex abuse.

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You have a point. But with regards to domestic violence the woman's lack of self sufficiency is often cited as one reason why they remain. A large number of homeless men are schizophrenics or military veterans who suffer PTSD. You cannot count them in the DV statistics. Sorry, that would be a lie.

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Oh hell, it was common knowledge that women were not encouraged to play. Granted, opportunities have improved since Title IX was passed in 1972, but recently 25% of high school girls from cities and 59% of girls from single parent homes have never played organized team sports.

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Every woman is reminded that the biological clock is ticking. That is the gun. Men can produce children when they are 60 or 70 years old (Trump for example)

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So a percentage of meaning: every woman between 16 and 60 cleaning up the post war rubble and rebuilding a country, is ... I quote: "very small"? (about 70+ % of population btw).
So you "looked closely" at that link, but didn't open and read it.

So you're talking about just a post war clean up? lol

What exactly did they do and for what period of time? How much of what they did exist today? You're talking about generations ago. What about all the infrastructure that was made after that small period? See how easy it is to ruin your little argument?

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Did you actually read your own headline for your own thread? "Every brick in every building" - it is your claim that this is "a reminder to the men ..."

Yes the wording certainly does exclude women.

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Almost every single brick.

Do you know what "almost" means? Dummy

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Not my text
Almost every inch of road

Do you know what "almost" means? Dummy

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Not my text
Almost every watt of electricity

Do you know what "almost" means? Dummy

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Not my text
Men end up doing the vast majority of these shitty difficult things.

Do you know what "vast majority" means? Dummy

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Don't you have female engineers, technicians, architects, etc etc in Australia? Just asking because we have. Maybe there aren't any in Australia, maybe you just don't know about it - the same way you don't know what you write in your threads.

Where have I denied that females don't exist at all in hard labouring jobs? I never did, but of course, as always, you pretty much create a stance for me and claim that I own it.

What I do claim is that 99 percent of people who do these shitty hard labouring jobs are men. Face up to the fact and deal with it. Women aren't the second class citizens after all.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/824/586/d35.jpg

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Ummm as you didn't read what was in the link and only read the headline (what you accuse me of doing), it seems that you don't understand the argument I am putting in place against your claim that the link excludes women.

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My point is, it's likely to see a lefty point out that blacks get it worse in the justice system. On the other hand, it's highly unlikely for a lefty to point out that men get it worse in the justice system.

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“This study found that women demonstrated a desire to control their partners and were more likely to use physical aggression than men.

“It wasn’t just pushing and shoving,” Dr Bates said, of responses to the anonymous questionnaire. “Some people were circling the boxes for things like beating up, kicking, and threatening to use a weapon.

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If DV against men was so damn rare, such studies like I have provided wouldn't be able to exist. Even that the studies I provided may or may not be accurate, the point still stands that how did they become to exist to begin with if male victims are just so damn rare?

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How is that exactly the fault of men? It's not the fault of men if women choose to have kids or not. The women are the ones making this decision, therefore, they are accountable for their own actions, no one else!

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It's not the fault of men that more women won't go in these professions. If it is, well that mean's it's the fault of women why more males are not school teachers or child careers.

You can't have it both ways.

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How is that exactly the fault of men? It's not the fault of men if women choose to have kids or not. The women are the ones making this decision, therefore, they are accountable for their own actions, no one else!

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I do not accuse you of reading the headline (of this thread, mind you). I accuse you you wrote it but did not think a bit about what you wrote.

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I accuse you of manipulating the quotes of other posters.
For the sake of your "arguments."
Which is exceptionally stupid as every reader can compare with original posts.

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I "accuse" you (well, I noticed) that you did not read the link about German Trümmerfrauen. You said you looked closely - but then you claimed that only a small minority of women (which was, in fact, all German women, in a post war situation when most men were POWs) were involved - which is so obvious bullshit that you proved by that that you either did not read it anyway, or completely perverted what was said there (which is not kinky, even on a kink forum).
For the sake of your "arguments".

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The Justice System and the Legal System are for the most part legislated and run by white men. Talk to them about any injustice you may perceive. White men are not an oppressed minority except in your wet dreams.

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From your link, a totally inadequate study from questionnaires, not from real life events. No real life data presented, only editorialized commentary.

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Really? Men are not involved in the decision making to have a family? What are we then? Just dicks? Speak for yourself.

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WTF? I was in high school in the late 60s and early 70s. More than half my teachers were men.
Child care? A young man I know stays home with his daughter while his attorney wife works.