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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
So the foundation of Jihad is Islamic propagation (da’wah). The question often asked is whether Islam condones and teaches the forced and armed conversion of non-Muslims. This is the image sometimes projected by Western scholars and as any Muslim scholar will tell you, is seriously flawed. The Qur’an clearly states “There is no compulsion in religion, the path of guidance stands out clear from error” [2:256] and [60:8]. In this verse, the word “rushd” or “path of guidance” refers to the entire domain of human life, not just to the rites and theology of Islam.
The quote from the Quran is accurate, but it's far from only one that could be trotted out, and the rest is a crock of shit. What the last decade and a half have seen is neither an "image" nor anything "projected by Western scholars," it's a reality that's been happening before our eyes, and one that has had no shortage of support from any number of Muslim religious scholars.
I appreciate the interpretation of Islam being presented. I believe it accords with the views of the majority of American Muslims, and it's one that I would like to see triumph over the abrogationist interpretation of their radical Jihadi cousins. But your impressive-sounding source, "The Islamic Supreme Council," exists in name only. There is no such thing in Islam, nor is anything remotely like it prefigured in the Quran. Even worse, from the point of view of it having any authority with regard to Islamic doctrine, the Chairman is a Sufi.
Persecution of Sufis and Sufism has included destruction of Sufi shrines and mosques, suppression of orders, and discrimination against adherents in a number of Muslim countries. The Turkish Republican state banned all Sufi orders and abolished their institutions in 1925 after Sufis opposed the new secular order. The Iranian Islamic Republic has harassed Shia Sufis, reportedly for their lack of support for the government doctrine of "governance of the jurist" (i.e., that the supreme Shiite jurist should be the nation's political leader). In most other Muslim countries, attacks on Sufis and especially their shrines have come from adherents of puritanical schools of thought who believe that practices such as celebration of the birthdays of Sufi saints, and dhikr ("remembrance" of God) ceremonies are bid‘ah or impure innovation, and polytheistic (Shirk) ~Source
And while we're at it, you earlier referred to the Talmud as the "Jewish Bible," which should be sufficient to demonstrate to anyone who cares that your knowledge of Judaism is on the same low par as your knowledge of Islam.
K.
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