Kirata
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So far, so good. But Wapo still couldn't resist spinning a claim that the Trump campaign had lied:
The liar here is you mr. k.
Back to making shit up, I see.
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
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In reaffirming many of Mr. Trump’s campaign pledges, the site drew criticism for repeating an incorrect statistic from the trail. The site says that murders in Washington, D.C., are up 50%. In fact, homicides in Washington fell by 17% in 2016 from the previous year, according to the city’s government
But of course, that ignores the fact that the campaign was run in 2016, at which point the only available annual homicide data was for 2015.
Why do you think a daily count was not available through 2016?
Get your head out of your ass:
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
They're right in one respect, though. Homicides in the District didn't increase by 50% in 2015, they increased by 54%! The figure put out by the Trump campaign was actually slightly lower than the real increase. And by July of the campaign, the District's homicide count looked like 2016 was going to be another banner year. Which in fact it was: The murder rate didn't quite reach 2015's level, but it only fell off 17% from the previous year's bloody 54% rise.
Here we can see the lie you are trying to tell. Here is d.c. crime rate for a 20 year period/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Washington,_D.C.
I would ask what the 20-year trend has to do with anything, but you make that clear in your next comment. So for the present I'll just note that your link doesn't have the homicide data for 2015 and 2016, which are the subject of Wapo's spin and my response to it. The official source is here:
D.C. Metropolitan Police Department
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Journalism in this country is in the toilet.
You failed to mention that d.c. is about 50% caucasian and that that shift in the demographic has been within the past five or so years.
I'm sorry. Please allow me to correct my failure to mention race and the longer term homicide rates. The District lost its black majority in 2011 (see here). The homicide rate had been fairly constant from about 1999 through 2004. But coincident with a growing caucasian population, whether or not related, the homicide rate started to fall off in 2005, and by 2011 it had declined to less than half the 1999-2004 rate, where it stayed until the sudden 54% rise in 2015. The year 2015 had the highest homicide rate since 2008, and 2016 the highest since 2009.
A freedom of information request seeking the race, age and gender of homicide victims showed 85 percent of all homicide victims were black and 91 percent were male, according to data available as of Dec. 9 from the Office of the Medical Examiner...
There is one constant: location. Most of the homicides happen in Southeast or Northeast, in Wards 7 and 8...
MPD Sergeant Delroy Burton, who is black and a 22-year veteran of the department, also heads the police union. What he sees is not a city overrun with violent crime: “We don’t have distributed homicides, we have concentrated homicides...
“Most of the children that live in the community where all this violence is centered are raised in these places where there aren’t good examples of conflict resolution — it goes back to the environment they’re raised in. If you have that very very vicious, violent environment, and you see that, where you have an unstable family life yourself — physical, emotional, sexual abuse, or all three, and you see all kinds of violence all the time across the street … how are you going to turn out?” Burton said. ~Source
Thanks for asking.
K.
< Message edited by Kirata -- 1/23/2017 4:26:18 AM >
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