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Who Tapped Trump’s Phone?


Obama
  19% (6)
Putin
  12% (4)
Unicorns
  29% (9)
Elvis
  22% (7)
Aliens
  16% (5)


Total Votes : 31
(last vote on : 3/5/2017 10:25:29 PM)
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heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 9:14:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

I'll turn that around for you

Where is any of the Democrat Media Complex "proof" that Russia altered the election, or that anyone from the Trump team ever met with any Russian regarding the election

There is none.


At the present, all that the general public knows is that there are a lot of highly suspicious ties between Trump, his administration and the Russians. A lot of it has already been covered in the media.

I expect that more will come out in the weeks and months ahead, and then even more during the impeachment proceedings.

All we can really say for now is that it is obvious that the Intelligence Community thinks he's guilty of something, and that they are in a better position to judge than you or me. I know it probably comforts you to think it's because Trump is a hero who wants to stand up to the 1% and all of your dreaded foreign nations and for some reason the Intelligence Community doesn't want that, but the truth is that he's not much more than a dim-witted, self-serving crony capitalist with fascist aspirations that will hopefully never be realized... and more corrupt, more evil than Hillary ever could have dreamed of being, mostly because his stupidity prevents him from being as cautious about it.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 9:20:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

I'll turn that around for you

Where is any of the Democrat Media Complex "proof" that Russia altered the election, or that anyone from the Trump team ever met with any Russian regarding the election

There is none.


At the present, all that the general public knows is that there are a lot of highly suspicious ties between Trump, his administration and the Russians. A lot of it has already been covered in the media.

I expect that more will come out in the weeks and months ahead, and then even more during the impeachment proceedings.

All we can really say for now is that it is obvious that the Intelligence Community thinks he's guilty of something, and that they are in a better position to judge than you or me. I know it probably comforts you to think it's because Trump is a hero who wants to stand up to the 1% and all of your dreaded foreign nations and for some reason the Intelligence Community doesn't want that, but the truth is that he's not much more than a dim-witted, self-serving crony capitalist with fascist aspirations that will hopefully never be realized... and more corrupt, more evil than Hillary ever could have dreamed of being, mostly because his stupidity prevents him from being as cautious about it.


And we are supposed to take your word for all of this, as you are an professional, unbiased arbiter of truth... [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]







heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 9:54:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
And we are supposed to take your word for all of this


No, you can probably take John Schindler's word for it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-intelligence-community-ready-go-nuclear-donald-trump-russia-nsa-a7585926.html

Also, you can stop changing the subject and actually read a few articles from the mountain of articles that have been extensively detailing Trump's corruption and ties to Russia over the past year or so.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 10:09:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
And we are supposed to take your word for all of this


No, you can probably take John Schindler's word for it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-intelligence-community-ready-go-nuclear-donald-trump-russia-nsa-a7585926.html

Also, you can stop changing the subject and actually read a few articles from the mountain of articles that have been extensively detailing Trump's corruption and ties to Russia over the past year or so.



Thank you for helping to establish that President Trump's reference to the Obama's ‘Deep State’ coup is above-board, and totally sane.






heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 10:21:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Thank you for helping to establish that President Trump's reference to the Obama's ‘Deep State’ coup is above-board, and totally sane.


It isn't Obama, they are probably after Trump, but it is more like a counter-coup.
I know that you would prefer to have Putin in charge, but sane people don't like it.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 10:28:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Thank you for helping to establish that President Trump's reference to the Obama's ‘Deep State’ coup is above-board, and totally sane.


It isn't Obama, they are probably after Trump, but it is more like a counter-coup.
I know that you would prefer to have Putin in charge, but sane people don't like it.


Video - Another Obama leftist, former Attorney General and corrupt Democrat party hack Loretta Lynch calls for blood in the streets over Hillary's loss




heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 10:31:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Thank you for helping to establish that President Trump's reference to the Obama's ‘Deep State’ coup is above-board, and totally sane.


It isn't Obama, they are probably after Trump, but it is more like a counter-coup.
I know that you would prefer to have Putin in charge, but sane people don't like it.


Video - Another Obama leftist, former Attorney General and corrupt Democrat party hack Loretta Lynch calls for blood in the streets over Hillary's loss


Is English your first language?

She is talking about the sacrifices that people have made opposing tyranny, NOT calling for blood in the streets.

And hey, nice deflection.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 10:46:52 AM)

FR -

Obama Admin Source Confirms Wiretapping Was Conducted (VIDEO)

"Lock him up!"

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heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:02:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

FR -

Obama Admin Source Confirms Wiretapping Was Conducted (VIDEO)


If it was granted, it means a federal judge determined that there was probable cause. To get to that point during a federal election, it would mean that Trump appeared EXTREMELY guilty to people in the know.

If this is true, Trump is toast, and he wouldn't even know it yet.

On the other hand:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/clapper-trump-wiretap/index.html

I'm pretty sure the Former Director Of National Intelligence is a little more reputable than whoever FOX news found to back up an unsubstantiated tweet by the man they've been shamelessly promoting for the past year.

The most obvious answer here is that Trump is doing what YOU do nearly every time you post-- namely, he is trying to create a diversion so that people will stop talking about the Russia investigation and the fact that so many people in his administration have ties.




WhoreMods -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:03:48 AM)

You like the Telegraph as a source, don't you?
Christopher Steele proves there was some point to keeping spooks in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union after all.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:18:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

FR -

Obama Admin Source Confirms Wiretapping Was Conducted (VIDEO)


If it was granted, it means a federal judge determined that there was probable cause. To get to that point during a federal election, it would mean that Trump appeared EXTREMELY guilty to people in the know.

If this is true, Trump is toast, and he wouldn't even know it yet.

On the other hand:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/clapper-trump-wiretap/index.html

I'm pretty sure the Former Director Of National Intelligence is a little more reputable than whoever FOX news found to back up an unsubstantiated tweet by the man they've been shamelessly promoting for the past year.

The most obvious answer here is that Trump is doing what YOU do nearly every time you post-- namely, he is trying to create a diversion so that people will stop talking about the Russia investigation and the fact that so many people in his administration have ties.


It's a sad day in America when anyone, even a lowly mindless little troll like you, can get behind the political party currently in power wiretapping another's campaign

That was what Watergate was about

One judge refused, so they shopped around until they found a crony judge to approve? Not good enough. Jail Obama, and everyone else involved. Set an example!




heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:28:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
It's a sad day in America when anyone, even a lowly mindless little troll like you, can get behind the political party currently in power wiretapping another's campaign

That was what Watergate was about

One judge refused, so they shopped around until they found a crony judge to approve? Not good enough. Jail Obama, and everyone else involved. Set an example!


The FBI is not a political party.
You're too clueless about how government works to realize that, I know.




WhoreMods -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:28:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
That was what Watergate was about

Really? And there was me thinking that was about a campaign office being broken into by a deniable stooge of Nixon's, rather than a federal agency monitoring somebody's phone calls.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:33:26 AM)

Obama did all of this:

quote:

The term Watergate, by metonymy, has come to encompass an array of clandestine and often illegal activities undertaken by members of the Nixon administration. Those activities included such "dirty tricks" as bugging the offices of political opponents and people of whom Nixon or his officials were suspicious. Nixon and his close aides also ordered investigations of activist groups and political figures, using the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).


He ordered his spy agencies to track media figures, as well

You know what the best part is? President Trump will never pardon Obama or his cronies. [:)]







WhoreMods -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:37:48 AM)

Nixon was impeached for the break in, and failing to cover it up. The term "Watergate" becoming shorthand for a wide range of political skullduggery and dirty tactics in the wake of his impeachment does nothing to alter that fact.
Do you not know what a metonym is?




heavyblinker -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:44:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Obama did all of this:

quote:

The term Watergate, by metonymy, has come to encompass an array of clandestine and often illegal activities undertaken by members of the Nixon administration. Those activities included such "dirty tricks" as bugging the offices of political opponents and people of whom Nixon or his officials were suspicious. Nixon and his close aides also ordered investigations of activist groups and political figures, using the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).



You're completely talking out of your ass!! The FBI launching an independent investigation into Trump's blatant Russia ties and history of shady real estate deals is NOT the same thing as Nixon spying on his political opponents-- that is EXACTLY what the Russians did for Trump during the election, however, and you were perfectly happy when that was going on.

You've concocted this ridiculous narrative involving corrupt federal judges and some sort of uniform FBI loyalty to the Democrats despite the fact that Comey openly, actively sabotaged Hillary less than 2 weeks before the election??? Did Obama order the investigation into Hillary's emails too? I mean, since he has absolute power over the FBI and everything...

Maybe Obama hired a team of ninjas to break into Trump Tower and spread nanodust at 3AM in the morning?




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:45:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Nixon was impeached for the break in, and failing to cover it up. The term "Watergate" becoming shorthand for a wide range of political skullduggery and dirty tactics in the wake of his impeachment does nothing to alter that fact.
Do you not know what a metonym is?


So what was the break in about, Einstein

Damn, all of you alt leftists on here are bottom-of-the-barrel idiots - with perhaps ONE exception

It was about... Wiretapping the Democratic Party's headquarters

FUCKING morons, I swear




WhoreMods -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 11:51:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX
So what was the break in about, Einstein

Damn, all of you alt leftists on here are bottom-of-the-barrel idiots - with perhaps ONE exception

It was about... Wiretapping the Democratic Party's headquarters

FUCKING morons, I swear

The intent of the break in has nothing to do with the fact that the impeachment and Nixon's resignation in disgrace from the US presidency was down to his ordering and then trying to conceal the illegal act of breaking and entering.
Is this too difficult for you to grasp, or are you just determined to ignore any bits of context that don't let you make a bullshit comparison between a break in Nixon ordered and wiretapping that Obama didn't?




Kirata -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 12:04:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

The FBI launching an independent investigation into Trump's blatant Russia ties and history of shady real estate deals is NOT the same thing as Nixon spying on his political opponents-- that is EXACTLY what the Russians did for Trump during the election

You really do need to try to stop confusing the world in your head with the real one.

K.




BoscoX -> RE: Who Tapped Trump’s Phone? (3/5/2017 12:07:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

The FBI launching an independent investigation into Trump's


Obama FBI, "independent" [sm=happy-smiley58.gif]

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