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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 7:27:23 AM   
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So ... a married man refuses to have dinner ALONE with any other women and won't drink alcohol at a function unless his wife is there?

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 7:34:04 AM   
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Yeah, you guys felchgobble amongst yourself. Such an outcry.

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:28:52 AM   
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Adjust your anti-skating control. You are not going to impeach Trump. Get it through your head. This broken record has been going on well long enough. Do you even know what it takes to start an impeachments process ?

It ain't happening.

T^T

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:35:18 AM   
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Pences stance on women isnt unusual, he is sharia lite, a talibangelical,
just like anyone else trying to take away the rights of women.



How wonderfully clever, Lucy!!!!



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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:38:58 AM   
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Adjust your anti-skating control. You are not going to impeach Trump. Get it through your head. This broken record has been going on well long enough. Do you even know what it takes to start an impeachments process ?

It ain't happening.

T^T

I haven't read or heard as mush but I am willing to bet there is a 50/50 chance that articles of impeachment are being drawn by house dems as we type. They may not go anywhere but.....?

Oh and the Huffpost link has been pulled.


HuffPoo, WaPoo, and the NYTpoo had articles of impeachment against President Trump handed to them by their overlords in the Obama cabinet on November 9th

HuffnPoo pulled the article? Typical. Another batshit crazy HuffPoo article so batshit crazy even HuffPoo can't stand the stench of it



Nah the huffpo piece is still there

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-it-matters-that-pence-wont-have-dinner-with-a-woman-who-isnt-his-wife_us_58dd1740e4b05eae031d949c?section=us_women


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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:42:35 AM   
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what one shagged Marilyn Monroe?

sorry greta75 I knew I posted that one somewhere- well angry, yet devilish delicious, spunk comes out of my cock...are you telling me it come out some people heads?

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:51:45 AM   
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But look what happened to Bill Clinton. It's legitimate concerns.


What happened is clear...hillery's husband gets more pussy than pence.

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:53:17 AM   
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women are evil and lead men into temptation.


I have lost my gps and I need a woman to lead me into temptation.

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 9:56:58 AM   
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PS the better path to fewer unintended pregnancies is sex education, lots of it, contraception, and std safety.

You left out oral and anal sex...guranteed to prevent unintended pregnancy

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 10:05:05 AM   
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None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 10:25:14 AM   
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Any time the mad fuk signs an executive order in crayon, or Memo, I have noticed the lack of women shiftyw - you changed your name or something..my memory is not altogether there someways....

Ah Kennedy - why i am not surprised

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 10:35:11 AM   
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what one shagged Marilyn Monroe?

sorry greta75 I knew I posted that one somewhere- well angry, yet devilish delicious, spunk comes out of my cock...are you telling me it come out some people heads?

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 10:45:12 AM   
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None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.


ive seen lots of clueless statements since ive been here, this is yet another.

what he is articulating and how is behaving, is not only somewhat common in Christian circles, its also wise given his position in government, completely independent from his faith life and love for his wife.

yeah, he's a sexist---wtf??

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 10:46:53 AM   
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So ... a married man refuses to have dinner ALONE with any other women and won't drink alcohol at a function unless his wife is there?

I'll get the wood. Bounty, you get the screws. Creative, you're on power tools. Who has access to those gallows plans?



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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 10:48:37 AM   
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None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.


ive seen lots of clueless statements since ive been here, this is yet another.


he has proven his sexism many times over the past decade
I think the point about pences marriage is bogus, his sexism tho is LOUD and PROUD
Like yours is

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 11:45:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.


ive seen lots of clueless statements since ive been here, this is yet another.

what he is articulating and how is behaving, is not only somewhat common in Christian circles, its also wise given his position in government, completely independent from his faith life and love for his wife.

yeah, he's a sexist---wtf??


Cause Christianity has long been praised for its treatment of women

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 11:50:25 AM   
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None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.


ive seen lots of clueless statements since ive been here, this is yet another.

what he is articulating and how is behaving, is not only somewhat common in Christian circles, its also wise given his position in government, completely independent from his faith life and love for his wife.

yeah, he's a sexist---wtf??


Cause Christianity has long been praised for its treatment of women


amen shifty:)

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 12:21:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.


ive seen lots of clueless statements since ive been here, this is yet another.

what he is articulating and how is behaving, is not only somewhat common in Christian circles, its also wise given his position in government, completely independent from his faith life and love for his wife.

yeah, he's a sexist---wtf??


Cause Christianity has long been praised for its treatment of women



setting aside your view (which is mistaken) of Christianity for a moment, youre suggesting that because you have that particular view of Christianity that therefore the most logical or only possible reason for mike pence behaving that way is because of sexism?

while im here---I apologize for my first reply to you shifty, I was harsh and wrong to be so.



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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 12:23:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

None of you understand the problem.

It's horseshit because it keeps women from gaining the same amount of political power men can have. From our Vice President. It's a sexist garbage move.

It has little to do with cheating. It has everything to do with sexism.


ive seen lots of clueless statements since ive been here, this is yet another.

what he is articulating and how is behaving, is not only somewhat common in Christian circles, its also wise given his position in government, completely independent from his faith life and love for his wife.

yeah, he's a sexist---wtf??


Cause Christianity has long been praised for its treatment of women



setting aside your ignorance of Christianity for a moment, youre suggesting that because you have that particular view of Christianity that therefore the most logical or only possible reason for mike pence behaving that way is because of sexism?



Christianity is pro-abortion, then? Christianity is in favour of the use of pre-pregnancy birth control as a whole?
Do you think that fringe religions invented by femdom enthusiasts or Trekkies would look so appealing if Christianity hadn't spent two thousand odd years ignoring Christ's message about Mary Magdalene?
At least one whore respected Christ. Show me an evangelist who has.

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RE: Huff Post Kicking up a Fuss about Pence Choosing no... - 3/31/2017 12:40:59 PM   
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"Christianity: The Best Thing That Ever Happened to Women"

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The Low Status of Women in Jesus’ Day

Some feminists charge that Christianity, the Bible, and the Church are anti-female and horribly oppressive to women. Does God really hate women? Did the apostle Paul disrespect them in his New Testament writings? In this article we’ll be looking at why Christianity is the best thing that ever happened to women, with insights from Alvin Schmidt’s book How Christianity Changed the World.{1}

“What would be the status of women in the Western world today had Jesus Christ never entered the human arena? One way to answer this question,” writes Dr. Schmidt, “is to look at the status of women in most present-day Islamic countries. Here women are still denied many rights that are available to men, and when they appear in public, they must be veiled. In Saudi Arabia, for instance, women are even barred from driving an automobile. Whether in Saudi Arabia or in many other Arab countries where the Islamic religion is adhered to strongly, a man has the right to beat and sexually desert his wife, all with the full support of the Koran. . . .{2} This command is the polar opposite of what the New Testament says regarding a man’s relationship with his wife. Paul told the Christians in Ephesus, ‘Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.’ And he added, ‘He who loves his wife loves himself.’{3}

Jesus loved women and treated them with great respect and dignity. The New Testament’s teaching on women developed His perspective even more. The value of women that permeates the New Testament isn’t found in the Greco-Roman culture or the cultures of other societies.

In ancient Greece, a respectable woman was not allowed to leave the house unless she was accompanied by a trustworthy male escort. A wife was not permitted to eat or interact with male guests in her husband’s home; she had to retire to her woman’s quarters. Men kept their wives under lock and key, and women had the social status of a slave. Girls were not allowed to go to school, and when they grew up they were not allowed to speak in public. Women were considered inferior to men. The Greek poets equated women with evil. Remember Pandora and her box? Woman was responsible for unleashing evil on the world.{4}

The status of Roman women was also very low. Roman law placed a wife under the absolute control of her husband, who had ownership of her and all her possessions. He could divorce her if she went out in public without a veil. A husband had the power of life and death over his wife, just as he did his children. As with the Greeks, women were not allowed to speak in public.{5}

Jewish women, as well, were barred from public speaking. The oral law prohibited women from reading the Torah out loud. Synagogue worship was segregated, with women never allowed to be heard.

Jesus and Women

Jesus’ treatment of women was very different:

The extremely low status that the Greek, Roman, and Jewish woman had for centuries was radically affected by the appearance of Jesus Christ. His actions and teachings raised the status of women to new heights, often to the consternation and dismay of his friends and enemies. By word and deed, he went against the ancient, taken-for-granted beliefs and practices that defined woman as socially, intellectually, and spiritually inferior.

The humane and respectful way Jesus treated and responded to the Samaritan woman [at the well] (recorded in John 4) may not appear unusual to readers in today’s Western culture. Yet what he did was extremely unusual, even radical. He ignored the Jewish anti-Samaritan prejudices along with prevailing view that saw women as inferior beings.{6}

He started a conversation with her—a Samaritan, a woman—in public. The rabbinic oral law was quite explicit: “He who talks with a woman [in public] brings evil upon himself.” Another rabbinic teaching prominent in Jesus’ day taught, “One is not so much as to greet a woman.”{7} So we can understand why his disciples were amazed to find him talking to a woman in public. Can we even imagine how it must have stunned this woman for the Messiah to reach out to her and offer her living water for her thirsty soul?

Among Jesus’ closest friends were Mary, Martha and Lazarus, who entertained him at their home. “Martha assumed the traditional female role of preparing a meal for Jesus, her guest, while her sister Mary did what only men would do, namely, learn from Jesus’ teachings. Mary was the cultural deviant, but so was Jesus, because he violated the rabbinic law of his day [about speaking to women].”{8} By teaching Mary spiritual truths, he violated another rabbinic law, which said, “Let the words of the Law [Torah] be burned rather than taught to women. . . . If a man teaches his daughter the law, it is as though he taught her lechery.”{9}

When Lazarus died, Jesus comforted Martha with this promise containing the heart of the Christian gospel: “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?” (John 11:25-26) These remarkable words were spoken to a woman! “To teach a woman was bad enough, but Jesus did more than that. He called for a verbal response from Martha. Once more, he went against the socioreligious custom by teaching a woman and by having her publicly respond to him, a man.”{10}

“All three of the Synoptic Gospels note that women followed Jesus, a highly unusual phenomenon in first-century Palestine. . . . This behavior may not seem unusual today, but in Jesus’ day it was highly unusual. Scholars note that in the prevailing culture only prostitutes and women of very low repute would follow a man without a male escort.”{11} These women were not groupies; some of them provided financial support for Jesus and the apostles (Luke 8:3).

The first people Jesus chose to appear to after his resurrection were women; not only that, but he instructed them to tell his disciples that he was alive (Matt. 28, John 20). In a culture where a woman’s testimony was worthless because she was worthless, Jesus elevated the value of women beyond anything the world had seen.

Paul, Peter, and Women

Jesus gave women status and respect equal to men. Not only did he break with the anti-female culture of his era, but he set a standard for Christ-followers. Peter and Paul both rose to the challenge in what they wrote in the New Testament.

In a culture that feared the power of a woman’s external beauty and feminine influence, Peter encouraged women to see themselves as valuable because God saw them as valuable. His call to aspire to the inner beauty of a trusting and tranquil spirit is staggeringly counter-cultural. He writes, “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful.”

Equally staggering is his call to men to elevate their wives with respect and understanding: “Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.” Consideration, respect, fellow heirs; these concepts sound good to us, but they were unheard of in the first century!

The apostle Paul is often accused of being a misogynist, one who hates and fears women. But Paul’s teachings on women reflect the creation order and high value God places on women as creatures made in his image. Paul’s commands for husbands and wives in Ephesians 5 provided a completely new way to look at marriage: as an earthbound illustration of the spiritual mystery of the union of Christ and His bride, the church. He calls wives to not only submit to their husbands as to the Lord, but he calls husbands to submit to Christ (1 Cor. 11:3). He calls men to love their wives in the self-sacrificing way Christ loves the church. In a culture where a wife was property, and a disrespected piece of property at that, Paul elevates women to a position of honor previously unknown in the world.

Paul also provided highly countercultural direction for the New Testament church. In the Jewish synagogue, women had no place and no voice in worship. In the pagan temples, the place of women was to serve as prostitutes. The church, on the other hand, was a place for women to pray and prophecy out loud (1 Cor. 11:5). The spiritual gifts—supernatural enablings to build God’s church—are given to women as well as men. Older women are commanded to teach younger ones. The invitation to women to participate in worship of Jesus was unthinkable—but true.

Misogyny in the Church

Author Dorothy Sayers, a friend of C.S. Lewis, wrote:

Perhaps it is no wonder that the women were first at the Cradle and last at the Cross. They had never known a man like this Man—there had never been such another. A prophet and teacher who never nagged at them, who never flattered or coaxed or patronized; who never made arch jokes about them, never treated them either as ‘The women, God help us!’ or ‘The ladies, God bless them!’; who rebuked without querulousness and praised without condescension; who took their questions and arguments seriously, who never mapped out their sphere for them, never urged them to be feminine or jeered at them for being female; who had no ax to grind and no uneasy male dignity to defend; who took them as he found them and was completely unselfconscious.

She continues: “There is no act, no sermon, no parable in the whole Gospel that borrows its pungency from female perversity; nobody could possibly guess from the words of Jesus that there was anything ‘funny’ about woman's nature.”{12} And this is one of the unfortunate truths about Christianity we have to acknowledge: over the centuries, many Christ-followers have fallen far short of the standard Jesus set in showing the worth and dignity of women.

In the second century Clement of Alexandria believed and taught that every woman should blush because she is a woman. Tertullian, who lived about the same time, said, “You [Eve] are the devil’s gateway. . . . You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On account of your desert, that is death, even the Son of God had to die.” Augustine, in the fourth century, believed that a woman’s image of God was inferior to that of the man’s.{13} And unfortunately it gets even nastier than that.

Some people mistakenly believe these contemptuous beliefs of the church fathers are rooted in an anti-female Bible, but that couldn’t be farther from the truth. People held these misogynistic beliefs in spite of, not because of, the biblical teachings. Those who dishonor God by dishonoring His good creation of woman allow themselves to be shaped by the beliefs of the surrounding pagan, anti-female culture instead of following Paul’s exhortation to not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds (Rom. 12:2). The church in North America does the same thing today by allowing the secular culture to shape our thinking more than the Bible. Only nine percent of Americans claiming to be born-again have a biblical worldview.{14} The church in Africa and Asia does the same thing today by allowing animism, the traditional folk religion, to shape their thinking more than the Bible.

It’s unfortunate that some of the church fathers did not allow the woman-honoring principles found in Scripture to change their unbiblical beliefs. But that is the failing of imperfect followers of Jesus, not a failure of God nor of His Word. Jesus loves women.

Effects of Christianity on Culture

As Christianity spread throughout the world, its redemptive effects elevated women and set them free in many ways. The Christian ethic declared equal worth and value for both men and women. Husbands were commanded to love their wives and not exasperate their children. These principles were in direct conflict with the Roman institution of patria potestas, which gave absolute power of life and death over a man’s family, including his wife. When patria potestas was finally repealed by an emperor who was moved by high biblical standards, what a tremendous effect that had on the culture! Women were also granted basically the same control over their property as men, and, for the first time, mothers were allowed to be guardians of their children.{15}

The biblical view of husbands and wives as equal partners caused a sea change in marriage as well. Christian women started marrying later, and they married men of their own choosing. This eroded the ancient practice of men marrying child brides against their will, often as young as eleven or twelve years old. The greater marital freedom that Christianity gave women eventually gained wide appeal. Today, a Western woman is not compelled to marry someone she does not want, nor can she legally be married as a child bride. But the practice continues in parts of the world where Christianity has little or no presence.{16}

Another effect of the salt and light of Christianity was its impact on the common practice of polygamy, which demeans women. Many men, including biblical heroes, have had multiple wives, but Jesus made clear this was never God’s intention. Whenever he spoke about marriage, it was always in the context of monogamy. He said, “The two [not three or four] will become one flesh.” As Christianity spread, God’s intention of monogamous marriages became the norm.{17}

Two more cruel practices were abolished as Christianity gained influence. In some cultures, such as India, widows were burned alive on their husbands’ funeral pyres. In China, the crippling practice of foot binding was intended to make women totter on their pointed, slender feet in a seductive manner. It was finally outlawed only about a hundred years ago.{18}

As a result of Jesus Christ and His teachings, women in much of the world today, especially in the West, enjoy more privileges and rights than at any other time in history. It takes only a cursory trip to an Arab nation or to a Third World country to see how little freedom women have in countries where Christianity has had little or no presence.{19} It’s the best thing that ever happened to women.


https://bible.org/article/christianity-best-thing-ever-happened-women

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