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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 12:53:17 AM   
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I almost feel bad for not answering the other thread first. I probably will after this. Get your block button ready. I'm aware that you don't want to hear reasonable responses.

The other posters have pointed out some very important points. The point about the tissue being needed is correct. It's not as though you are going to cut it off and presto! They are just going to give you GRS. It's not considered life-saving surgery.

Let's say you honestly can manage to go through with cutting off your own penis and balls. Even that is a pretty big stretch because you probably won't make it through the pain and blood loss. Best case scenario, you call 911 before a single swoop with a really sharp implement. Yeah. Tell them you had an "accident" while doing the estimate about how long it will take EMT's to get dispatched to you. What's the average wait time for an ambulance call in your neighborhood? Better hope there isn't a gun shot call that involves police or a multiple car pile up with injuries.

However, we'll be positive and say the EMT's make it to your residence and you haven't botched this bad enough for you to die before they arrive. Thanks to their training, they actually have the presence of mind to find your penis and testes, put them on ice, and get you to the closest hospital. Do you know what happens then? If you haven't lost too much blood, the hospital staff is going to do everything possible to reattach your penis. Nobody is going to listen to you about wanting to have bottom surgery because it's going to be obvious that the wounds are self-inflicted, and you are going to be put on psyche hold. As soon as you are physically stable, you'll be transferred to the closest mental health facility based on mental incompetence. Expect a long term stay. I'd be guessing a minimum of six months. More depending on how well you do with the psychiatrist.

During the process, your progress with transition goes into limbo. In doing this, you no longer have qualifications to have your transition covered by WellCare because you have to have mental stability. No continuity with your work/volunteer time in your preferred gender. No more regular contact with your support system that you're supposed to maintain. No more referral from your primary care provider. I hope those hormones are legitimate scripts, because if not, you can kiss them good-bye under state-sponsored supervised care.

If all of that sounds good, feel free. Do what you're going to do.


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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 9:25:36 AM   
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So as someone who struggles with suicidal thoughts myself- I feel for you.

I'd like to know- do you have a history of trauma? In particular in your adolescent years?
Why are you so wildly against doing this the right way? What do you have against a shrink who'd actually help you?
Why are you holding this whole message board hostage with these threats? What do you hope to glean from these threads?

It seems to me- you're hoping to use our responses to justify and validate your suicidal thoughts and the feeling that you are worthless. You realize that what you're doing is targeting a group of people to prove that thought process to you. To the point where you are blocking one of the most levelnheaded responses you've received. I think it's unfair to rope all of us into convincing you to keep going. I don't think you want to hear positive responses and get more frustrated when we don't validate your worthlessness and instead come back with responses directing you towards help.

I have trauma in my past- 3 major traumatic events. I have PTSD. I had major suicidal thoughts a month ago- along with thoughts of self harm- which I have never acted upon. But in my case rather than directing those thoughts towards my penis (I don't have one)- it gets directed at my weight. I'd be lying if I said I haven't thought of butchering myself and performing my own plastic surgery. I came to the point of almost committing myself back in February. I won't let either of the men I live with (I live with my boyfriend and my brother) but a gun because I don't trust them- but also because I don't trust myself with that easy an out. You know where I spend every Tuesday? At my therapists. You know who I express my unhealthy thoughts to? My therapist. You know who I break down in front of? My therapist.

Why? She's qualified to help me.
Why else? I don't want strangers or loved ones to be held responsible for my own self loathing- because I don't want them to feel like they caused it or could have done something if I ever do end up acting on any of these thoughts.

Do you have the number to a local LGBTQ community center? Many of them offer support groups.
Do you have the national suicide hotlines number?
Do you know any of your local mental health resources?
Did you mention that you pretty recently lost your wife? Do you have any resources for grieving? Any widowers support groups?
Have you ever sought a diagnosis?

If you haven't done any of these things- why not?
Even in my very small community (think 7000 people in my town) I know where I can find help. I simply won't believe that you don't have reasonable access to this. I'm even willing to help you find appropriate resources. I think it's obvious to you that this is not an appropriate place to express these feelings. It should be obvious to you that many people aren't going to encourage your suicidal tendencies either. So why continue trying to validate your thoughts here? Also why continue to use this place as a resource?

There's literally billions of sources out there to help you online. Including resources for those looking for GRS and trans individuals. Do you need links to some of those?

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 10:01:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AllisonSophia2


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

But im not arguing against having gender reassignment
so your point is moot



You just don't approve of my method

No one is going to approve of self mutilation. You posted a question and several people have pointed out that self mutilation would not end well. You are only pissed because you did not get the answer you wanted. Grow up and quit being a cry baby

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 2:52:38 PM   
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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 3:06:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Answer my questions. By ignoring my feeling post full of sincere questions- you are just justifying those labels and making it harder for people with mental health, and gender identity issues to be taken seriously. You're making it harder to take you seriously as well.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 3:37:38 PM   
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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 3:38:00 PM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		The fact is if you mutilate yourself out of impatience and/or frustration you will be denying yourself the opportunity to ever become a woman surgically.

Sex reassignment surgery for male-to-female involves reshaping the male genitals into a form with the appearance of, and, as far as possible, the function of female genitalia.

I am sorry that you hate the answer but that doesn't prevent it from being factual.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 3:38:47 PM   
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Some people ant handle the truth and resort to childish labels like 'cry baby' when they obviously know they're so far wrong ther can't handle the facts

This is Olympic gold-medal level irony right here.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 3:42:10 PM   
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This may sound crazy, but what is the survival rate of someone cutting off their own genitals in order to speed up Their own gender reassignment surgery


I'm not entirely certain but....back in the mid 80's, (right when pump your own gas was all the rage) I had an idea for a "do it yourself, selective surgery" system.

(Had I had the cash....I was going to set up a nationwide doc in the box, do your own heart/lung transplant kind of system...I called it: "Suture Self").

(Of course....this was before online startup loans).

(I was ahead of my time.....as per usual).

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 3:54:02 PM   
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I wish they would make suicide legal.

It is legal in Switzerland.

Go there and book yourself into Dignitas.
It'll cost you about $5000 and it'll be done for you.

There. Job done.


Now quit bleating and whining and either do it or STFU.



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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 4:18:41 PM   
kiwisub22


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Status: offline 		OP - you realise that if you cut off your external genitals, the surgeons won't make you a vagina. Basically what they would do is sew up the raw area and you'll spend the rest of your life sitting to pee, or use a funnel if you want to stand. No vagina, no penis , no balls.
And yes, you might well survive cutting your junk off. Physically.
Be easier to wear tight undies.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 8:35:58 PM   
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I wish they would make suicide legal.

Why does it matter? If what you really want to do is commit suicide, then there's nothing stopping you. If you're successful, what does it matter if it's legal or not? Will they arrest your corpse?

At any rate, by your own admission under one of your previous usernames, you've claimed to have had over 30 failed "suicide attempts". If you honestly wanted to check out, you would have by now. It's pretty clear that a successful suicide isn't what you're looking for here, it's attention and pity. Same old, same old.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 9:00:22 PM   
AllisonSophia2


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Status: offline 		It's so amazing how stupid stef is thinking that I'd be stupid enough to unblock her to read whatever bullshit she might be say...like I give fuck what lies she wants to say about me. Get a clue bitch. You don't mean shit to me. You're a dumb bitch talking to someone who ain't listening

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 9:31:26 PM   
Lucylastic


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Status: offline 		It seems to me you arent listening to what anyone says.

Like a lot of the old timers, we have experience with you, most of us including stef have posted advice, more than once, more than twice, many many times.
We cant do anything to help you unless you help yourself First.

I get pissed because you do it to get attention and it never changes,

Maybe you might have more of a problem with it being a sin, than illegal.
Damned soul...
Or
Because if you do it and die, you wont care.
If you dont die, you suffer the consequences of trying to do yourself in. That can hurt more than the attempt.

SO...having said that, I will no longer comment to you.





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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 3/31/2017 10:05:31 PM   
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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 4/1/2017 12:01:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't believe all you guys are giving this brat a free online session. If you read his profile, his only complaint in life is that Dommes cost so much. Now he has you playing with him for free. Touche' AllisonSophia2... you go boy... in fact, you win the internet. Because you got all those guys to play with you... I'll play too and I am going to give you a list of the gear you need to chop of your junk and survive it properly.

1 - Go get an Elastor / Elastrator / Emasculator band applicator $25. Here is the brand I use. link
2 - Get some bands $3.
3 - Get a cauterizer pen for $20.
4 - Get a surgical stapler $15 (just in case)
5 - Get a suture kit (thread & needle) $10
7 - Get some catheters and bags. They have caths, bags and holder (panties) sets for $30
8 - If you got medical contacts, get lidocaine with epinephrine. The epinephrine keeps the lidocaine localized and it lasts longer (in case you pass out and waste time). Otherwise hit up your local dope dealer for some pain pills & some cocaine.

Ever seen a sissy with no balls? Well, that's because the balls are easy. You put on a band or two and leave it until they drop off. No hacking, no sewing required. They will drop off in about 7 weeks, some as soon as 4 weeks but no longer than 8 weeks. Look up instructional videos on the cattlemen and veterinary sites. Merck Veterinary Manual Online: http://www.merckvetmanual.com/ Items #1 & #2 from the list $28 = no more balls.

... I don't have time to play with you anymore... sorry. But my hats off to you really. You can look up the cock chopping part yourself. You'll see all the tools on that list in use. Graphic detailed instructions in several places on the net.

You aren't committing suicide because it's illegal... man - o - man ROFLMNAO. This is Arpig isn't it? You're cracking me up chief. "I'm not killing myself because I might catch a legal case" . . . ROLFCOPTER............ and people still rattled on just as serious as can be like they were helping talk sense into you. I just want to see someone wheeling your corpse into court to stand trial for having committed suicide!!! Wait... you don't live in democratic district do you? I mean, hell, if the democrats roll out the dead to vote, they can be prosecuted too I imagine.

Thank you for joining our forums and giving us such a great laugh. This thread has the potential to rival 'tap tap tap.' And don't forget, pics or didn't happen.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 4/1/2017 7:31:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		ya know, way back in the day, I worked in an ER. We had regulars who "attempted" suicide, or made suicide gestures. As the years went on, these people had fewer and fewer people who came with them/came to pick them up. They essentially wore their families out with their shenanigans. There is such a thing as compassion fatigue.

I wonder if the OP's family has gotten to the point of "shut up and go away", so he's coming to the internet for his attention.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 4/1/2017 1:20:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		In my realm of experience and by my perception, this particular self mutilation threat behavior is very stereotypical of a submissive brat tantrum trying to be a victim for attention . . . whether they are a victim of themselves or society or you or whomever. In this thread, both the perpetrator and the act have randomly changed to keep you “playing” with them and keep hold of your attention. They are simply playing for free. Hell, have fun.

Am I the only one that sees the OPs biggest gripe in life is the high cost of playing with Dommes and now they are playing with you for free?

Again, my hats off to AllisonSophia2 for this thread and the immortal comment "I wish they would make suicide legal." Because you know, when I am really thinking about killing myself, breaking the law and facing criminal charges in the afterlife are my first concern! Just like cutting my junk off to speed up a SRS surgery they won't be able to perform if I cut my junk off. That shit is comedy gold. As Tosh says often... "we thank you."

. . . and that's all the free play time I have for Allison today.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 4/1/2017 1:57:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eh I had an ex kill themselves and I have been down the suicidal worm hole myself. I don't doubt the threats are real on some wavelength. It's just a cry for help. But also...if they won't accept help then there's fuck all I can do.

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RE: Self-service gender surgeries? - 4/2/2017 1:58:36 PM   
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Eh I had an ex kill themselves and I have been down the suicidal worm hole myself. I don't doubt the threats are real on some wavelength. It's just a cry for help. But also...if they won't accept help then there's fuck all I can do.


Themselves?

(Was he beside himself?)

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