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You insist that Muslims must follow the Koran's injunctions to the letter. I used this standard, the standard that you chose and applied it to other religions to see what results might occur.

Seems appropriate to me. After all, we all know that all Australians venerate the song 'Waltzing Matilda'. I think we can take it as read therefore that every Australian at root wants to be a jolly swagman, sitting next to his/her billabong and capturing passing jumbucks; moreover, if he/she gets caught by a squatter and by the soldiers, one two three, he/she will want to jump in the aforementioned billabong. That is *all* Australians, mind - no matter what any of them say. If you question this, I shall have to print the lyrics of 'Waltzing Matilda', over and over and over again, in order to demonstrate what *all Australians are like*.

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You're forgetting the alcoholic thing, and that all of the men in Australia are drag queens...

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You insist that Muslims must follow the Koran's injunctions to the letter.

I have never posted anything like that. Didn't read your insane spew any further than that, either.

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You're forgetting the alcoholic thing, and that all of the men in Australia are drag queens...

Beats me how they can fight crocodiles all the time being pissed as well as dressed in heels and falsies.

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None of that is me "insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's injunctions to the letter"

That is me, discussing the Koran, and what it teaches

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Our little Isn'tlam scholar of the Korain't.

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Why don't you try a fact based argument just once, show us how it's done.

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Our little Isn'tlam scholar of the Korain't.

If you weren't just a troll you could post facts, just like you preach

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None of that is me "insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's injunctions to the letter"

That is me, discussing the Koran, and what it teaches

So you didn't write: "Islamic law (as laid down by Sharia, the Koran) demands violence of Muslims "
Even though the post it which that claim appears is in your name.

Perhaps someone else wrote it and posted it in your name. Or perhaps it doesn't mean that you are insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's instructions to commit violence against non-believers though what other meaning it might possess is obscure to say the least.

You have been insisting that Muslims are instructed to commit violence against non-believers for as long as you have been posting here in your latest sock/incarnation.

You are only deluding yourself. Your own posts contradict your current claims. The whole foundation of your anti-Muslim vitriol is false, a delusion. Your entire position is built on top of a delusion, a delusion made obvious by your denials and contradictions in your posts, a blindingly obvious delusion that the whole world can see. Stripped of any claim to rationality or truth, you have nothing left except your bigotry and hate. And heaven knows, that's ugly enough.

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Our little Isn'tlam scholar of the Korain't.

If you weren't just a troll you could post facts, just like you preach

He did: it's a fact that you've spent your whole posting career in here posting fallacies about moslems and their religion.

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Our little Isn'tlam scholar of the Korain't.

If you weren't just a troll you could post facts, just like you preach

He did: it's a fact that you've spent your whole posting career in here posting fallacies about moslems and their religion.

No, he is a disturbed little trollish person all of the time, exactly like you are

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None of that is me "insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's injunctions to the letter"

That is me, discussing the Koran, and what it teaches

So you didn't write: "Islamic law (as laid down by Sharia, the Koran) demands violence of Muslims "
Even though the post it which that claim appears is in your name.

Perhaps someone else wrote it and posted it in your name. Or perhaps it doesn't mean that you are insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's instructions to commit violence against non-believers though what other meaning it might possess is obscure to say the least.

You have been insisting that Muslims are instructed to commit violence against non-believers for as long as you have been posting here in your latest sock/incarnation.

You are only deluding yourself. Your own posts contradict your current claims. The whole foundation of your anti-Muslim vitriol is false, a delusion. Your entire position is built on top of a delusion, a delusion made obvious by your denials and contradictions in your posts, a blindingly obvious delusion that the whole world can see. Stripped of any claim to rationality or truth, you have nothing left except your bigotry and hate. And heaven knows, that's ugly enough.

Not that Muslims must do as the Koran demands, which is the straw man, the twisting of my words as you lie about what I posted

Many Muslims do not follow all Islamic laws. Those are "good" Muslims (aka apostates), especially to those Muslims who are deeply devout (aka radicals)

And the penalty for apostasy is death btw

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All I have posted about Muslims are the facts btw, backed up with credible citations as needed (especially Koran verses and statistics for Muslim mass slaughter through history as well as recently) )

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All I have posted about Muslims are the facts btw, backed up with credible citations as needed (especially Koran verses and statistics for Muslim mass slaughter through history as well as recently) )

Your "facts" and "credible citations" all come from heavily biased propaganda sites. And the verses you list are all taken out of context.

Let me show you how that works. The bible tells us in the Ten Commandments to kill. Really it does. Right there in the sixth commandment is the word "kill", so we should kill! Oh . . . that's right, there are other words there. "Thou shalt not . . ." Hmmm. Context. Oh well, when it comes to the Koran we don't need to worry about that silly "context" stuff. Just take what the propaganda sites tell you to take to try to prove your baseless points.

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None of that is me "insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's injunctions to the letter"

That is me, discussing the Koran, and what it teaches

So you didn't write: "Islamic law (as laid down by Sharia, the Koran) demands violence of Muslims "
Even though the post it which that claim appears is in your name.

Perhaps someone else wrote it and posted it in your name. Or perhaps it doesn't mean that you are insisting that Muslims must follow the Koran's instructions to commit violence against non-believers though what other meaning it might possess is obscure to say the least.

You have been insisting that Muslims are instructed to commit violence against non-believers for as long as you have been posting here in your latest sock/incarnation.

You are only deluding yourself. Your own posts contradict your current claims. The whole foundation of your anti-Muslim vitriol is false, a delusion. Your entire position is built on top of a delusion, a delusion made obvious by your denials and contradictions in your posts, a blindingly obvious delusion that the whole world can see. Stripped of any claim to rationality or truth, you have nothing left except your bigotry and hate. And heaven knows, that's ugly enough.

Not that Muslims must do as the Koran demands, which is the straw man, the twisting of my words as you lie about what I posted

Many Muslims do not follow all Islamic laws. Those are "good" Muslims (aka apostates), especially to those Muslims who are deeply devout (aka radicals)

And the penalty for apostasy is death btw

You are tying yourself in knots. In your own words:
1. Deeply devout Muslims (aka radicals) obey the Koran.
2. "Islamic law (as laid down by Sharia, the Koran) demands violence of Muslims ".
3. Therefore, it follows that devout Muslims must carry out violence against non-believers.

Again you are insisting that the Koran's rules are the way to describe and predict the behaviour of believers. Yet we have already seem above that is a deeply fatally flawed way of predicting believers' behaviour - it simply doesn't describe, it is contradicted by the reality that almost all of the world's Muslims peacefully co-exist with other religions and the West. Even if we grant your analysis, at best, it applies only to a tiny minuscule minority of Muslims. It doesn't describe the reality that most Muslims live.

This is the contradiction that turns your position into a delusion. You are using a deeply fatally flawed standard to assess the behaviour of believers. And because the foundation is flawed, everything you build on top of that flawed foundation will be equally flawed.

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While I don't agree with the non-muslim lone warrior actions. Serves no purpose to kill Muslims when they are all just prisoners of their ideology and evil religion. They need to be freed. And for them to be free, the government needs to denounce Islam as not a respectable religion to follow.

Killing Muslims cannot kill the root of this evil problem which is the ideology itself! A Muslim has hopes of turning Non-Muslim. If they do something bad, it's only the stupid Quran telling them to do it. So they need to stop believing in Islam.

So I hope no more non-Muslims gonna do stupid like this. Instead, they need to exert pressure on the government, like the US. I bet for example Obama refusal to use "Islamic Terrorism" has caused Hillary her election too. People don't feel safe with government protecting Islam over Non-Muslims.

The reaction to this, is like, you know, as you said, just one incident, and Theresa panics and calls a special meeting. Why didn't she do that with the Ariana Concert bombing already? Non-Muslims lives don't matter.

Only Muslim lives matter is the message in UK now.

PS: I also realise the Grendall Tower is majority Muslims living in it. Could be another lone warrior setting fire to that tower unfortunately. Come to think of it.

I am just irritated at the double standards the west has. They hold non-muslims higher responsible for crimes against humanity, because they expect non-muslims to be better than Muslims.

When Muslims commit terrorism. It's like expected and they get a hall pass. When their own non-muslim do something heinous, all hell breaks loose like they seriously gonna lynch their own, which to me, is very fair. But I had hope for the same reaction when Muslims commit these crimes too, but Nope, they defend Muslims when they commit these crimes.

When they printed out this shit about Mosque came in with aid. At first sounded like a story of a Mosque helping non-Muslims. Then you realise the whole damn building is filled with Muslims only. No wonder.

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What sort of logical fallacy are these, and how do they resemble your generalisations about moslems?

Some birds are black.
Therefore all birds are either blackbirds, or similar enough to blackbirds to support the blackbirds.
Horses and many tables have four legs.
Therefore all horses have enough in common with tables in general to support and encourage the plans of those tables with a central stem rather than a leg at each corner, and even those weird triangular coffee tables with three legs.

The Koran orders all Muslims to slaughter or enslave or otherwise dominate all non-Muslims who refuse to join their cult. Certain classes of infidels are to be slaughtered outright, and terrorism is a preferred tactic in their planet-wide jihad in Allah's name. The ultimate goal is world domination

A true statement of fact, with no fallacy involved whatsoever

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All I have posted about Muslims are the facts btw, backed up with credible citations as needed (especially Koran verses and statistics for Muslim mass slaughter through history as well as recently) )