LadyPact
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne You are kidding? You clean the bath and wash the sheets twice as often, I dont have to clean my bathroom or wash my sheets twice as often so its not a case that I would be doing it anyway, that is a fabrication of the 'Me' syndrome. If you were splitting time between two different bedrooms, I'd think you would. Sooner or later, that second bed you were sleeping in would need to be maintained. Even if you traveled for work two days a week, spent time with relatives, or anything else, somebody has to clean it. Do you have a guest room in your house? If there is no 'guest' using it, how often do you have to do the upkeep? Rather, if a person does utilize the space, does that change anything? quote:
I am confusing nothing whatsoever. BDSM most certainly is a relationship, even if all you want is a quick fuck or beating. Any time 2 people interact in 'any' manner there is a definable relationship. The act creates the relationship, something as simple as buying a donut creates a 'business' relationship. We'll have to disagree. An interaction does not constitute a relationship. Several definitions of the word "relationship" imply a connection, and that is not necessarily the case from the actions of bondage, discipline, sadism, and masochism. Was it a relationship when I stood in line at the grocery store and the person ahead of me engaged in conversation or the guy who brought my mail interacted with me by saying hello? How about the guy who cut me off in traffic yesterday, so he waved at me because he knew he made a mistake when driving? The telemarketer? The person who came to the door with the discount offer for the new restaurant that delivers pizza? quote:
I am no implying I am pointing out that these so called dommes are con artists out to get everything they can from gullible guys who have fetishes. Oh, so you think it should be on the Dominant to have some kind of kink bed and breakfast, where the s-type just shows up, and everything is provided for them? They shouldn't have to clean up after themselves, contribute to meals that are put on the table, or even do so much as helping with the play space they enjoy? You don't get that anywhere else in life. Why should I provide everything when the person coming to my house does nothing but bend over so I can expend energy to swing leather at them? quote:
No the dynamics is not similar employer employee relationships, your employer does not ask you to sign over your house and all assets to them and they have duties and obligations, where as these con-dommes state up front they have no duties or obligations use these poor assholes up then kick them to the curb, at least with an employer you get a retirement fund of some sort. Your comparison sucks. Sorry, but no, you don't. If you go out and get a temp job for a few hours, nobody is paying your retirement, 401K, or health insurance. You get reasonable compensation for the time you put in. For that compensation, you are required to do what you have been assigned. quote:
What I want is entirely irrelevant, this is not about mE its about con-dommes, so please avoid trying to personalize this and make it about me. Their are equitable ways to achieve the same results where no one gets ripped off and you might find one out of every 2000 dommes who are actually equitable out here. The problem with this is, if we start talking about tops and bottoms, I consider most of that easily exchangeable. There ARE equitable ways to achieve the same result. In fact, it takes me less. Literally, it takes me a twenty minute drive ad a twenty dollar door fee to get the exact same kink on. I don't have to wash sheets, clean bathrooms, do meal planning, clean the play space, or anything else to do it. quote:
Face it, BDSM relationships are not designed to promote love and romance they are designed for fetish fulfillment, which is mutual masturbation on one level or another, despite your reluctance to admit the fact. BDSM "relationships" don't necessarily have anything to do with "relationships," at all. Your insistence that anybody has to feel any emotional connection to somebody that they throw some ropes around is a fallacy. It's the same as trying to tell anybody that they have to be "in love" with somebody just because they have sex. I do not consider this "masturbation," however. While I don't consider 'interaction' between two parties to be a relationship, I also don't consider it singular. quote:
This has nothing to do with alternative lifestyles, it has everything to do with one party ripping the other parties off that have a sexual disorder, that being addiction, not the act in itself, and using that addiction to take them to the cleaners. As usual, we are now back to the poor, downtrodden bottom/supposed s-type. Do you ever consider the top/D-type being ripped off? I mean, the D-type is supposed to do all of the preparation, acquire all of the gear, do all of the hosting, etc, etc. In the meantime, the folks on the other side of the slash get the space to play in, (that they don't have to clean) the lack of responsibilities for expenses, no time investment for their own intrusion, and think their contribution is being present and being the receiver of sensations? quote:
OWK is a good example. Lovely deal. Are you paying for the experience you want? Is the room clean? Do your meals get prepared? Sheets ready? Towels fresh when you arrived? Is there staff? Do you ever consider that the 'play' is actually an expenditure? Those implements that you want to feel? Are they free? What about the physical action? The rope you are tied with? If it's really an exchange, why should I have to do more than you? Money, hosting, opportunities, take on the majority of the responsibilities, planning, providing gear, etc, etc, etc. What's your job in all of this? Sitting on your ass and think you're serving? Bending over and think you're doing me a favor? Exactly what are you doing while I'm working for a paycheck, cleaning the house, buying the food, cleaning up after meals, expending my energy for play, etc? Does that sound good to you?
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