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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 8/2/2017 4:15:27 PM   
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The Cabal - ur right Sir and lucky that u have ur own plane - Congrats ! Im still driving my SUV - lol . Also when they send u there email id in first or second mail , guaranteed SCAMMER -
speaking from experience here . About a year ago I totally give up on the girls [ PIGS ] in here , thats what I call them now - lol - lol . As I said earlier Im lucky that I live in here - Vegas . For 300 bucks / 2 hours what ever I want and how ever I want it and thats fine with me now .


You just earned a "hide" for calling me, a complete stranger, a pig. Your words aren't worth looking at.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 8/2/2017 4:39:41 PM   
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wish u a good luck in here my friend !

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 8/8/2017 5:53:24 AM   
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i tell them sell their car they wont need it and use it for bus ticket

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 8/9/2017 12:49:08 AM   
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I have concluded that 99% of all slaves claim they have no money to relocate, no access to a credit card, refuse to borrow money from friends, and many have new cars which never seem to have any petrol yet they beg that if you relocate them you will never regret it. Has anyone ever sent relocation funds to someone who then used the money to come to them or are they all scammers?


Well, I always got men on here offer to fly me to him.

But I always ask him, why can't he fly to me? And have a holiday here and visit me?

I ain't gonna fly to some strange country to meet some strange dude on the internet.

If he is genuine, he flies here and visit me and get to know me.

It's kinda ironic that, when I was a teenager, I had so many men in their twenties flew here to meet me, From Europe and US. But not BDSM sites. Maybe younger more adventurous to travel. I mean it's like a holiday and meeting a new friend all in one.

Vanilla sites though. No hesitation at all. But now at this age, since I really seek vanilla for casual sex and not relationship, so I don't bother with anybody not in this country that I can't meet instantly.

But in BDSM world, it always like, they will offer to pay everything, but they want you to fly to them. I don't know why.

And another thing is, if a man is gonna fly a woman to him. No money exchange needed. He just need to book the ticket for her.

I mean, I have local FwBs who is working overseas and fly me to them. But I never had to book the ticket myself. They book everything. I just turn up at the airport.

So even if you were serious about woman, I see zero reason you would have to send her a single cent to get her to you. Just book her ticket for her.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 9/29/2017 5:32:03 PM   
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When I first got here I will admit I sent money to the tune of about a hundred two one lady along with a bus ticket. She picked up the money but never the bus ticket since then I've been very worried about sending money to anyone. In fact after that I don't. Then we had a young lady that came to us under her own money but we paid for her to leave because of the issues.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 10/8/2017 6:50:53 AM   
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What's the big deal? I told a sub to relocate to me and I'd reimburse her. She did, and I did.

Also, regarding the scammers - it's pretty easy to filter out their profiles.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 10/10/2017 1:06:21 AM   
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Also, regarding the scammers - it's pretty easy to filter out their profiles.

I also think that you can definitely tell a scammer if not the profile, but by getting to know them better!

I just cannot understand why do men get scam.

But hey, not just men. Women in my country get scam too. The most expensive scam was 6 million dollars? Can you believe it? An Australian man managed to claim he was "captured by the UN" and needs bail out! For apparently money laundering. And she loves him so much to send him that much money to help him. Crazy woman! But it happens! I think this guy is a much more successful scammer than any female scams out there!

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 10/16/2017 8:23:51 PM   
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Would never waist my time or money with anyone I met here - all subs/slaves women in here [ CS ] are SCAMMERS ! Been here on CS for while and not a once did I met a NORMAL woman !!
THEY ALL ARE SCAMMERS , LIARS and PIGS !! NO EXCEPTION !! SMJ53


I'm sorry it has been tough on you. My experience is just the opposite.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/4/2018 8:59:59 AM   
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LOL - FOR PETE'S SAKE - NEVER - NEVER - NEVER SEND ANY MONEY TO THOSE
SCAMMERS !! THATS ALL THEY ARE - PIGS AND SCAMMERS !! MANY OF THEM ARE MEN AND NOT A FEMALES !! SAD BUT TRUE !! THEY USE A WOMENS PICS IN THERE PROFILE AND
THEY ARE A MEN !!

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/4/2018 9:10:40 AM   
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i tell them sell their car they wont need it and use it for bus ticket


LOVE IT , THATS THE WAY TO GO !! YES

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/4/2018 1:39:12 PM   
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Would never waist my time or money with anyone I met here - all subs/slaves women in here [ CS ] are SCAMMERS ! Been here on CS for while and not a once did I met a NORMAL woman !!
THEY ALL ARE SCAMMERS , LIARS and PIGS !! NO EXCEPTION !! SMJ53

Wow, I have met 40+ people on CS in person. It never cost me a dime and they never asked me for any money. Some people just do not know how to look.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/4/2018 2:16:09 PM   
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Wow, I have met 40+ people on CS in person. It never cost me a dime and they never asked me for any money. Some people just do not know how to look.

Personally, I would have thought you'd have me beat, considering your travel schedule and all.




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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/4/2018 6:15:58 PM   
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LP,
I would love to beat you

My travel schedule does have its advantages in being able to meet people from other areas. There are drawbacks too. As my travel is more random ( I rarely get more than 3 weeks notice) it can be hard to align schedules.

I think though you are much more social than me (IMHO). I tend to avoid large groups and gatherings. I prefer a smaller venue. In all honesty, the majority I have met in person on CS have been through networking of other CS people and not seeking out 1 to 1 contact.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/5/2018 1:24:51 AM   
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LP,
I would love to beat you

Pfffttttt. Not on your best day.

quote:

I think though you are much more social than me (IMHO). I tend to avoid large groups and gatherings. I prefer a smaller venue. In all honesty, the majority I have met in person on CS have been through networking of other CS people and not seeking out 1 to 1 contact.

I did an interview a few years ago that focused on this very thing. "How do you manage to meet all of these people?"

The honest answer is, and always will be... Be the person that other people want to meet.


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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/5/2018 3:25:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I did an interview a few years ago that focused on this very thing. "How do you manage to meet all of these people?"

The honest answer is, and always will be... Be the person that other people want to meet.



LP,
You bring up a good point “Be the person other people want to meet”. One of the things I think that has helped me in that area is communication skills. How to communicate with other people.

Not a secret to those in the forums, I travel a lot work. That travel encompasses 11 different countries and 9 different languages and I only speak 3 of those languages. I interface with people from upper management to line operators making minimum wage.

One of the skills I learned in my job was how to communicate effectively, regardless of language, country, religion, gender or culture. This is something I am very thankful for and has helped my career immensely. Learning how to listen is just as important as learning how to speak. Realizing different people, different cultures do things differently. Being receptive of that fact and getting the people engaged in what you are doing/want to do makes a world of difference.

This spills over into my personal life and I think it is one of the reasons I find it easy to meet people.

Care to share more of your interview? What do you think are other things the people can do to “Be the person other people want to meet”?


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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/5/2018 7:36:24 PM   
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Thinking of others in a context not involving one's genitals is always a smashing good start.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/5/2018 8:16:47 PM   
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True. Chivalry and being a gentleman seems to be a lost art today.

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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/5/2018 10:30:13 PM   
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LP,
You bring up a good point “Be the person other people want to meet”. One of the things I think that has helped me in that area is communication skills. How to communicate with other people.

And, oddly enough, I don't consider that a strong suit of mine in written form. A skill that is highly advantageous on the forums where discussions are taking place. I consider myself fair to midland, though I'm often better in person.

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Not a secret to those in the forums, I travel a lot work. That travel encompasses 11 different countries and 9 different languages and I only speak 3 of those languages. I interface with people from upper management to line operators making minimum wage.

I'm glad you mentioned it. Not being a Dr Who fan myself, I didn't intrude on the thread about the subject. However, I have always had the impression that your German was better than you were disclosing on the thread.

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One of the skills I learned in my job was how to communicate effectively, regardless of language, country, religion, gender or culture. This is something I am very thankful for and has helped my career immensely. Learning how to listen is just as important as learning how to speak. Realizing different people, different cultures do things differently. Being receptive of that fact and getting the people engaged in what you are doing/want to do makes a world of difference.

I believe you to be right and you and I could probably chew on the subject as it relates to work for days. It's one of the reasons I've done better in certain employment positions than I probably had the right to do so.

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This spills over into my personal life and I think it is one of the reasons I find it easy to meet people.

I'm sure it is.

Now, I am going to say something that is based on personal opinion. I think that the atmosphere of the site has changed in the course of the last decade. Back when there were so many more people who were forum participants who were also the people that could be seen at major events and so on, I think it was easier to meet people. They might not all be "partners" or even people that you got a shot to play with, but you could definitely meet them. You'd be at an event. They'd be at an event. Hang out, laugh, find things in common to talk about. Somewhere in there, you made a new friend.

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Care to share more of your interview? What do you think are other things the people can do to “Be the person other people want to meet”?

To be honest, the interview I mentioned was my favorite one. I've been in Litterati and other types of print, and I still consider the one that crossed my mind to be the best. Part of it was open floor, so that was exceptionally cool.

So, let me ask you the same thing. What about other people are qualities that make them be the person you'd like to meet?

We've already touched on communication. Not just talking, but listening. Be curious about other people's interests. Find the things you have in common and the areas where you don't agree. That's how conversations happen.

Be fun. (This is one of the qualities I have that make me a good event/party promoter.) Whatever the heck it is, a huge majority of the time, we're going to have fun doing it. We're going to make memories that people talk about for a heck of a long time.

This is going to sound arrogant as hell but in more years than I can count, this is the best way to describe it. Yep, it's dumb, but it's from an old episode of "Friends".

Two of the characters know this person they went to college with that they've nicknamed Gandolf. He's kind of the party wizard that blows into town, makes whatever the people get up to ridiculously fun, and it becomes the best time.

I'm Gandolf.

Go places! Go to places you want to learn, places where people congregate, places that are different. It makes anyone a more interesting person.

And, when you do, share. Share memories, stories, and anecdotes.

Do that much, and it's a good place to start.


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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/6/2018 2:28:32 AM   
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RE: Slave excuses concerning relocation - 1/6/2018 10:58:15 AM   
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And, oddly enough, I don't consider that a strong suit of mine in written form. A skill that is highly advantageous on the forums where discussions are taking place. I consider myself fair to midland, though I'm often better in person.

My written word is not all that great either. I always have a ton of spelling and grammatical errors. Having correct spelling and grammar used to be a hang-up of mine. My job changed that. Working with people who’s native language is not English you have to let go of that :) . Though when writing reports for work I do spend more time proof reading :)


quote:

Now, I am going to say something that is based on personal opinion. I think that the atmosphere of the site has changed in the course of the last decade. Back when there were so many more people who were forum participants who were also the people that could be seen at major events and so on, I think it was easier to meet people. They might not all be "partners" or even people that you got a shot to play with, but you could definitely meet them. You'd be at an event. They'd be at an event. Hang out, laugh, find things in common to talk about. Somewhere in there, you made a new friend.

Agreed, the forums are not what they used to be. The volume of people is down and many of the fun people have left. I did attend a lot of CS parties in the past or events where CS people would make it a point to meet up at. I do not see that type of atmosphere here anymore. We need more Gandalfs :)

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So, let me ask you the same thing. What about other people are qualities that make them be the person you'd like to meet?

Someone fun to start with. Someone who is a bit adventurous. Someone who does not take life to serious. Someone who appreciates the small things in life. Someone who is willing to communicate, open up and talk about themselves. Someone with a bit of warped mind. Someone who is honest.


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We've already touched on communication. Not just talking, but listening. Be curious about other people's interests. Find the things you have in common and the areas where you don't agree. That's how conversations happen.


Yes, the art of conversation. How do you get the other person involved? It is asking simple little questions to open the door for larger discussions. A lot of times I will ask about things that have nothing to do with the work at hand. I will ask what the local tradition is for a holiday or cultural event that is coming up or happening at the time. For instance I was in Mexico city for work over Halloween on year. So I asked the people I was working with if they celebrated Halloween. The group I was working with proceeded to tell me in Mexico they celebrate Día de Muertos, better known as the Day of the Dead. Día de Muertos celebration is quite different from the US Halloween celebration. Having the conversation with them about that comparing it to how I celebrate Halloween in the US.

Those small discussions builds personal relationship with the person and naturally brings up other discussions. Do you visit your parents? Where did you grow up? What was it like growing up there? How many brother/sisters do you have. As each of those topics comes you then pull out similarities from your life. “Hey we had 5 kids in the family too. My youngest sister was so spoiled, was the youngest in your family spoiled?”

For the work aspect of it. You do something similar to get the person involved. To give this some context, one of my jobs is to troubleshoot problems in production line whether it be mechanical, electrical, or chemical. So I will ask the line operators what is the problem they are seeing and to please show me. After that I will explain to them the theory of how the machine and transformations should work. Next I will ask what do they think will solve problem? They usually will have an idea to try. I will also have a few ideas to try. Even though I may know the solution at this point usually I will recommend trying both solutions to see which one works. I also tell them while I know how the machine should, you guys run the machine day in and day out and know how it actually works, so your input is very important to me. The key here is getting them engaged, respecting them and keeping them engaged throughout the whole process. Making the person feel they are important and bring value to the table and will feel empowered after I leave to be able run the machine without any problems.

If I did a good job of engaging the person, usually on my next trip back they want to talk to me and actually seek me out. They will have ideas they want to try and that will start the conversations again.




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