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Nnanji -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/11/2017 6:17:10 PM)


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That said seems the gubmint has a controlling interest in promoting enforcing their atheist religion

The government that's been fawning and grovelling to the moral minority since Reagan handed the republican party over to the religious right in 1980?
The government that, at a state level, bans atheists from standing for elected political positions in several areas of your country?
The government that has never once been headed by a president who didn't claim to be a christian?
Yeah, if there's a government that's obviously a tool of the atheist conspiracy to promote secular humanism, it's the American one...

Yea, it was Obama...what a minute, you've gone back even further. Not being consistent are you?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/11/2017 8:42:47 PM)

Ninja - I will he should smack you silly


i am about to lose my temper
just saying




WickedsDesire -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/11/2017 8:46:30 PM)

stomps on ninja what are you an animal or beast of munter?





vincentML -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/12/2017 4:23:30 AM)

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What a sad, desolate view of life. No wonder you spend so much time under a tin foil hat. Of course, I assume, those "people" who set the president...any president...straight on what they may or may not do are a party to all of that ultimate straw man.


Why does it bother you, Nnanji, that some of us are disbelievers? Was it an atheist that started this thread and mocked what your beliefs are? Was it an atheist that introduced the hoakum about a contemporary mythology? When you speak of our "desolate" view of life, do you present evidence that we truly do have a poor view of life or are you projecting your own beliefs that you suffer in this life for the rewards of eternity? Tell us, please, how does our nay saying threaten your dogma? I do not believe Jesus walked on water. I do not believe Jesus was born of a virgin human who copulated with a spirit. I do not believe that life transcends the decay of the brain. I do not know how the universe began. I do not know if there is any purpose in this life other than what I make of it. I do not believe in transubstantiation. I do not believe in soul.

Those are my disbeliefs. I just do not believe what you believe. I do not share your faith. I do not ask you to accept my positions. I do not interfere with your chase after eternal salvation. Why does my presence frighten you?




Edwird -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/12/2017 6:12:36 AM)

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Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology



I don't believe that a 90' 170 ton blue whale or either a great white shark will come out of my kitchen sink.

Therefore, I 'have a religion.'

Thanks for spelling that out.





Nnanji -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/12/2017 8:28:47 AM)


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What a sad, desolate view of life. No wonder you spend so much time under a tin foil hat. Of course, I assume, those "people" who set the president...any president...straight on what they may or may not do are a party to all of that ultimate straw man.


Why does it bother you, Nnanji, that some of us are disbelievers? Was it an atheist that started this thread and mocked what your beliefs are? Was it an atheist that introduced the hoakum about a contemporary mythology? When you speak of our "desolate" view of life, do you present evidence that we truly do have a poor view of life or are you projecting your own beliefs that you suffer in this life for the rewards of eternity? Tell us, please, how does our nay saying threaten your dogma? I do not believe Jesus walked on water. I do not believe Jesus was born of a virgin human who copulated with a spirit. I do not believe that life transcends the decay of the brain. I do not know how the universe began. I do not know if there is any purpose in this life other than what I make of it. I do not believe in transubstantiation. I do not believe in soul.

Those are my disbeliefs. I just do not believe what you believe. I do not share your faith. I do not ask you to accept my positions. I do not interfere with your chase after eternal salvation. Why does my presence frighten you?

I think you misunderstand me. I don't care if you're a secular humanist. My point was made to a person that thrives on conspiracy theories. You don't ever (as far as I've seen) put forth conspiracy theories. While it's true, in my opinion, that all you see is negative aspects of history and never positive ones, I've never belittled that as you're honest about it. The person to whom I was speaking is one of the biggest proponents of conspiracy theories here and then has little tolerance for other conspiracies.




vincentML -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/12/2017 3:08:03 PM)


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What a sad, desolate view of life. No wonder you spend so much time under a tin foil hat. Of course, I assume, those "people" who set the president...any president...straight on what they may or may not do are a party to all of that ultimate straw man.


Why does it bother you, Nnanji, that some of us are disbelievers? Was it an atheist that started this thread and mocked what your beliefs are? Was it an atheist that introduced the hoakum about a contemporary mythology? When you speak of our "desolate" view of life, do you present evidence that we truly do have a poor view of life or are you projecting your own beliefs that you suffer in this life for the rewards of eternity? Tell us, please, how does our nay saying threaten your dogma? I do not believe Jesus walked on water. I do not believe Jesus was born of a virgin human who copulated with a spirit. I do not believe that life transcends the decay of the brain. I do not know how the universe began. I do not know if there is any purpose in this life other than what I make of it. I do not believe in transubstantiation. I do not believe in soul.

Those are my disbeliefs. I just do not believe what you believe. I do not share your faith. I do not ask you to accept my positions. I do not interfere with your chase after eternal salvation. Why does my presence frighten you?

I think you misunderstand me. I don't care if you're a secular humanist. My point was made to a person that thrives on conspiracy theories. You don't ever (as far as I've seen) put forth conspiracy theories. While it's true, in my opinion, that all you see is negative aspects of history and never positive ones, I've never belittled that as you're honest about it. The person to whom I was speaking is one of the biggest proponents of conspiracy theories here and then has little tolerance for other conspiracies.

Boy, I really fucked that up. My apologies. I will be more careful hereafter.




Nnanji -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/12/2017 3:29:55 PM)


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What a sad, desolate view of life. No wonder you spend so much time under a tin foil hat. Of course, I assume, those "people" who set the president...any president...straight on what they may or may not do are a party to all of that ultimate straw man.


Why does it bother you, Nnanji, that some of us are disbelievers? Was it an atheist that started this thread and mocked what your beliefs are? Was it an atheist that introduced the hoakum about a contemporary mythology? When you speak of our "desolate" view of life, do you present evidence that we truly do have a poor view of life or are you projecting your own beliefs that you suffer in this life for the rewards of eternity? Tell us, please, how does our nay saying threaten your dogma? I do not believe Jesus walked on water. I do not believe Jesus was born of a virgin human who copulated with a spirit. I do not believe that life transcends the decay of the brain. I do not know how the universe began. I do not know if there is any purpose in this life other than what I make of it. I do not believe in transubstantiation. I do not believe in soul.

Those are my disbeliefs. I just do not believe what you believe. I do not share your faith. I do not ask you to accept my positions. I do not interfere with your chase after eternal salvation. Why does my presence frighten you?

I think you misunderstand me. I don't care if you're a secular humanist. My point was made to a person that thrives on conspiracy theories. You don't ever (as far as I've seen) put forth conspiracy theories. While it's true, in my opinion, that all you see is negative aspects of history and never positive ones, I've never belittled that as you're honest about it. The person to whom I was speaking is one of the biggest proponents of conspiracy theories here and then has little tolerance for other conspiracies.

Boy, I really fucked that up. My apologies. I will be more careful hereafter.

Accepted. You're one of the few who can actually offer an apology for a misunderstanding. I don't mind working those out with you.




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/12/2017 11:42:44 PM)


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What a sad, desolate view of life. No wonder you spend so much time under a tin foil hat. Of course, I assume, those "people" who set the president...any president...straight on what they may or may not do are a party to all of that ultimate straw man.


Why does it bother you, Nnanji, that some of us are disbelievers? Was it an atheist that started this thread and mocked what your beliefs are? Was it an atheist that introduced the hoakum about a contemporary mythology? When you speak of our "desolate" view of life, do you present evidence that we truly do have a poor view of life or are you projecting your own beliefs that you suffer in this life for the rewards of eternity? Tell us, please, how does our nay saying threaten your dogma? I do not believe Jesus walked on water. I do not believe Jesus was born of a virgin human who copulated with a spirit. I do not believe that life transcends the decay of the brain. I do not know how the universe began. I do not know if there is any purpose in this life other than what I make of it. I do not believe in transubstantiation. I do not believe in soul.

Those are my disbeliefs. I just do not believe what you believe. I do not share your faith. I do not ask you to accept my positions. I do not interfere with your chase after eternal salvation. Why does my presence frighten you?

I think you misunderstand me. I don't care if you're a secular humanist. My point was made to a person that thrives on conspiracy theories. You don't ever (as far as I've seen) put forth conspiracy theories. While it's true, in my opinion, that all you see is negative aspects of history and never positive ones, I've never belittled that as you're honest about it. The person to whom I was speaking is one of the biggest proponents of conspiracy theories here and then has little tolerance for other conspiracies.

Boy, I really fucked that up. My apologies. I will be more careful hereafter.

It was still a very good question and put very articulately.




Real0ne -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/19/2017 8:17:32 AM)


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my belief system is irrelevant to the topic, atheist mythology... geeebus you people are hard up

But you still haven't given us any atheist mythology.



Criticism of atheism is criticism of the concepts, validity, or impact of atheism, including associated political and social implications. Criticisms include positions based on the history of science, findings in the natural sciences, theistic apologetic arguments, arguments pertaining to ethics and morality, the effects of atheism on the individual, or the assumptions that underpin atheism.

Various contemporary agnostics like Carl Sagan[1] and theists such as Dinesh D'Souza[2] have criticised atheism for being an unscientific position. Analytic philosopher Alvin Plantinga, Professor of Philosophy Emeritus at the University of Notre Dame, argues that a failure of theistic arguments might conceivably be good grounds for agnosticism, but not for atheism, and points to the observation of an apparently "fine-tuned Universe" as more likely to be explained by theism than atheism. Oxford Professor of Mathematics John Lennox holds that atheism is an inferior world view to that of theism, and attributes to C.S. Lewis the best formulation of Merton's Thesis that science sits more comfortably with theistic notions, on the basis that Men became scientific in Western Europe in the 16th and 17th century "Because they expected law in nature, and they expected law in nature because they believed in a lawgiver.' In other words, it was belief in God that was the motor that drove modern science." The leading American geneticist Francis Collins also cites Lewis as persuasive in convincing him that theism is the more rational world view than atheism.







WhoreMods -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/19/2017 9:03:09 AM)


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my belief system is irrelevant to the topic, atheist mythology... geeebus you people are hard up

But you still haven't given us any atheist mythology.



Criticism of atheism is criticism of the concepts, validity, or impact of atheism, including associated political and social implications.


Really?
In your case it looks more like your usual MO of inventing utterly ridiculous shite than anything that could even be dignified by calling it a strawman.




Real0ne -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/20/2017 2:03:57 AM)

Hey dumb shit I didnt say this: Oxford Professor of Mathematics John Lennox holds that atheism is an inferior world view to that of theism

see it has credits included, I am not john lennox




WhoreMods -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/20/2017 4:35:30 AM)


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Hey dumb shit I didnt say this: Oxford Professor of Mathematics John Lennox holds that atheism is an inferior world view to that of theism

see it has credits included, I am not john lennox

If he also holds that it's a religion with its own mythology, then he doesn't have a clue what the fuck he's talking about and should stick to maths rather than philosophy or theology.
And as you've provided no provenance for any of the quotations you've attributed to Lennox, we only have your word that you're quoting him. As your word is worthless, that proves nothing.




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/20/2017 9:46:02 AM)


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If you lack belief you have no legitimately expressable opinion yet at the very same time you express an opinion that in fact is a belief, a belief there is no God.


So that would also apply if I were to alter that to

"If you lack belief you have no legitimately expressable opinion yet at the very same time you express an opinion that in fact is a belief, a belief there are no pogo-sticking elves in my street" ...?


I'm taking it, then, that you don't agree with the alteration? I can't replace 'belief in God' with 'belief in pogo-sticking elves'? Why not?



sure I dont have a problem with that said the way using my statement, my point still stands, its as senseless with elves as it is with God, its not what objet you insert its purely the contradiction of your statement so you should avoid changing the argument to a strawman as it appears you are attempting to do.

to be perfectly clear

If you lack belief you have no legitimately expressable opinion yet at the very same time you express an opinion that in fact is a belief, a belief there is no elf.


You have nowhere else to go RO. You see, G o d...IS the ultimate strawman. He was invented whole cloth, out of thin air to justify power, human violence, murder, subjugation and prejudice. The religious affairs built around [god] has also proven to be quite profitable. I mean come on man...I could buy ($$) absolution ?

You see RO, in Islam for sure and even to more 'religions' you are going straight to hell and simply for being a non-believer...in their god.

For 1/3 of the religious world, 2 out of every other Muslim, Christian and Jew...is going to hell. You can't all be right but you can all...be wrong.

Anybody out there doesn't have a god ? Invent one...he'll (she'll)...do just fine.



Thats not even acceptable rhetoric much less good rhetoric. What you fail to comprehend is that you merely have chosen a different god. This thread is about atheist mythology that as far as I am concerned proves to any reasonable person that the atheists dogma is no more 'fact' than the believers dogma.

I already pointed out proved in another thread that atheists hijacked believer dogma and simply relabelled it, its what every gubmint does and they enforce it as law while at the same time advertising themselves as purely secular while establishing their own flavor of 'religion'.

The 'lack belief' argument is so easy to prove as bullshit I did it with both brains tied behind my head.

No one on the planet nets more profit than the ZioJiz orwellian atheist state.

Look at peons posts, that 100% state indoctrination.


But you simply invent what you need, others beliefs, others dogma and have never specified these so-called hijackings.

What is 'atheist ' dogma. Do those who don't believe in Santa Claus or the Easter bunny...what is their dogma ?

For those who don't believe aliens have visited earth...what is their dogma ?

Did 'state indoctrination' steer me away from Santa and the Easter bunny ?

You have nothing, you have nowhere to go on this, so you create these things to create a level to argue over. But you argue with yourself because all of those aspects you try to create...do not exist.




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/20/2017 9:49:42 AM)


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my belief system is irrelevant to the topic, atheist mythology... geeebus you people are hard up

A better topic would have all others mythology. I want to know how to deal with all of the mythologies spread by non-believers in Santa. Where are the mythologies of the non-believers in the Easter bunny ? I am thinking we should all start to worry about those too.




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/20/2017 9:57:13 AM)

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Look at peons posts, that 100% state indoctrination.


I'm almost glad you said that, RO, because I've been polite to you up to this point - and now I don't have to be. You're a lunatic. You're so utterly and completely indoctrinated with religion yourself that you simply can't imagine how anybody could just reject it because it makes *literally as little sense as elves pogoing up and down my street*. Yes, really, truly - as little sense, and worth as little thought, as just that.

'State indoctrination', you pathetic baboon. How? Is the State ramming Dawkins's theories down my throat on a daily basis? Or ever? On the other hand we get religious programme aplenty here - and on the BBC, the main and only 'state channels'.



Well I am really glad you got that off your chest, now, atheists pride their religion allegedly as being based upon logic and reason and I have just ripped the rug right out from underneith their feet, take note the hecklers are in full force to distract the point made.

So do you want to tackle the matter and propose a counter point or concede?

For your convenience:

If you lack belief you have no way to express a legitimate affirmative statement yet at the very same time you express a statement that in fact is a belief, a belief there is no elf.


How's this for a couple of legitimate affirmative statements ? I do not believe in god. I do not believe anything in the bible. (both episodes) I do not believe anything in the Torah or the Quran. Is that 'affirmative' enough for you ?





MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/21/2017 9:57:18 AM)


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If you lack belief you have no legitimately expressable opinion yet at the very same time you express an opinion that in fact is a belief, a belief there is no God.


So that would also apply if I were to alter that to

"If you lack belief you have no legitimately expressable opinion yet at the very same time you express an opinion that in fact is a belief, a belief there are no pogo-sticking elves in my street" ...?


I'm taking it, then, that you don't agree with the alteration? I can't replace 'belief in God' with 'belief in pogo-sticking elves'? Why not?



sure I dont have a problem with that said the way using my statement, my point still stands, its as senseless with elves as it is with God, its not what objet you insert its purely the contradiction of your statement so you should avoid changing the argument to a strawman as it appears you are attempting to do.

to be perfectly clear

If you lack belief you have no legitimately expressable opinion yet at the very same time you express an opinion that in fact is a belief, a belief there is no elf.


You have nowhere else to go RO. You see, G o d...IS the ultimate strawman. He was invented whole cloth, out of thin air to justify power, human violence, murder, subjugation and prejudice. The religious affairs built around [god] has also proven to be quite profitable. I mean come on man...I could buy ($$) absolution ?

You see RO, in Islam for sure and even to more 'religions' you are going straight to hell and simply for being a non-believer...in their god.

For 1/3 of the religious world, 2 out of every other Muslim, Christian and Jew...is going to hell. You can't all be right but you can all...be wrong.

Anybody out there doesn't have a god ? Invent one...he'll (she'll)...do just fine.



Thats not even acceptable rhetoric much less good rhetoric. What you fail to comprehend is that you merely have chosen a different god. This thread is about atheist mythology that as far as I am concerned proves to any reasonable person that the atheists dogma is no more 'fact' than the believers dogma.

I already pointed out proved in another thread that atheists hijacked believer dogma and simply relabelled it, its what every gubmint does and they enforce it as law while at the same time advertising themselves as purely secular while establishing their own flavor of 'religion'.

The 'lack belief' argument is so easy to prove as bullshit I did it with both brains tied behind my head.

No one on the planet nets more profit than the ZioJiz orwellian atheist state.

Look at peons posts, that 100% state indoctrination.


Well there is no atheist dogma and the only fact required for atheists, is their disbelief.

You have shown no proof at all of anything really and the govt. has nothing to do with it.



I fully recognise your problem. [sm=lalala.gif]

Dr. Haidt compared the writings of the new atheists to people like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck who are known for their dogmatic positions. The study analyzed the entire text of each of their newest books for words and phrases that denote dogmatic opinions. Phrases like: “always” “never,” “certainly,” “every,” and “undeniable.” and in atheist Sam Harris’s book these dogmatic phrases represented over 2.5% of every word in the book. That’s five dogmatic words for every 200 words in the book!

http://creationtoday.org/new-study-exposes-atheist-dogma/


oops I guess you are wrong.

No religion condemns polyamory as a sin except the gubmint, looks like you are wrong again.



Fine, then it shouldn't be difficult for you to give us examples.




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/21/2017 10:01:39 AM)


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Look at peons posts, that 100% state indoctrination.


I'm almost glad you said that, RO, because I've been polite to you up to this point - and now I don't have to be. You're a lunatic. You're so utterly and completely indoctrinated with religion yourself that you simply can't imagine how anybody could just reject it because it makes *literally as little sense as elves pogoing up and down my street*. Yes, really, truly - as little sense, and worth as little thought, as just that.

'State indoctrination', you pathetic baboon. How? Is the State ramming Dawkins's theories down my throat on a daily basis? Or ever? On the other hand we get religious programme aplenty here - and on the BBC, the main and only 'state channels'.



Well I am really glad you got that off your chest, now, atheists pride their religion allegedly as being based upon logic and reason and I have just ripped the rug right out from underneith their feet, take note the hecklers are in full force to distract the point made.

So do you want to tackle the matter and propose a counter point or concede?

For your convenience:

If you lack belief you have no way to express a legitimate affirmative statement yet at the very same time you express a statement that in fact is a belief, a belief there is no elf.


I 'believe' and in fact...I know, there is no evidence of a god.



Ah so you have 'faith' just like the believers in somethin you cant prove. damn that sounds like a religion doesnt it [8|]

No it doesn't




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/21/2017 10:04:10 AM)


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my belief system is irrelevant to the topic, atheist mythology... geeebus you people are hard up


Whenever I hear anybody talk about creationism I can’t help but think about all the horrible pain especially suffered by innocent children. The Creator that you worship is a merciless, evil, sadistic madman. And what is so ironic is that RO castigates atheists for not worshiping such a monster. Well no thank you my friend you can have him, you are welcome to crawl to him. I cannot imagine why you would take such pride of kneeling before such a monster except out of ignorance.




We are drifting from atheist mythology, however I find it very odd that you for some very strange reason champion the athiest monster which pales all religions combined.


GODLESS SOCIALISM
Atheist lies: Who are the real mass killers?

Exclusive: Ted Baehr & Tom Snyder battle notion religion is source of history's carnage
Published: 06/08/2015 at 7:11 PM

Dr. Tom Snyder contributed to this column.

Atheist, secular educators and pseudo-intellectual social critics from the left like to promote the false argument that religion has killed more innocent people than any other force in the history of mankind. They also claim that religion has been the cause of more wars in human history than any other.

These wild claims are completely false.

First, according to “The Irrational Atheist” by Vox Day, before the 20th century more than 133 million people were killed by genocide, political murders and mass murder, but only about 2.65 million murders (less than 2 percent) were for religious reasons, such as the Christian Crusades, witch-hunts and the Aztecs slaughtering their neighbors, and most of those took place over several centuries.

Also, in the 20th century alone, atheist regimes from the socialist left – such as Stalinist Russia, Mao’s China, the Cambodian and Vietnamese Communists and Yugoslavia – murdered more than 153 million people in 65 short years!


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geez vince not sure what you are bragging about clearly atheists are a slime of the earth when it comes to murder?


Not even a nice try...they've all been shown to be christian or catholic or make themselces the 'god' of their people.




MrRodgers -> RE: Modern Contemporary Atheist Mythology (8/21/2017 10:06:44 AM)


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my belief system is irrelevant to the topic, atheist mythology... geeebus you people are hard up

But you still haven't given us any atheist mythology.



I hope I dont need to post the definition of 'myth' for you do I?


The atheists’ creation story1

by Dominic Statham
Published: 12 July 2016 (GMT+10)

The General Theory of Evolution (GTE) is the atheists’ creation story. As with the Bible, it begins with creatio ex nihilo (creation from nothing)—and in the atheists’ view there really was nothing (and certainly no God) to act as first cause. The big bang, they say, produced the universe all by itself. Then, billions of years later we’re told, the first life formed spontaneously in some chemical soup and, without any help, evolved into all the plants and animals found on Earth today—including us.

Similarly, leading origin of life researchers, such as Paul Davies and Stuart Kauffman, readily admit that no observed natural processes can produce life from non-life. Unperturbed, however, they do the same as the secular cosmologists—they take a gigantic leap of blind faith and believe that the required natural processes existed anyway and, for some reason, we just haven’t yet discovered them. Richards Dawkins is adamant that, once first life formed, Darwin’s theory can explain how this could have evolved into people. But why then are leading biologists such as James Shapiro and Stuart Newman quietly looking for alternative theories?3,4

Faith masquerading as science

All this demonstrates a commitment not to science, but to a worldview that excludes God from one’s thinking, i.e. to philosophical naturalism—the doctrine that everything, including the origins of the universe and life, can be explained entirely by natural processes. It’s an ideology which is neither scientific (arising from blind faith rather than observations) nor necessary for scientific progress, as CMI has pointed out many times before. For example, Philip Skell, formerly Professor of Chemistry at Pennsylvania State University, commented: When the facts don’t fit their creation story, secular scientists must turn to alternative ‘scientific laws’ drawn from their imaginations.

I recently asked more than 70 eminent researchers if they would have done their work differently if they had thought Darwin’s theory was wrong. The responses were all the same: No. I also examined the outstanding biodiscoveries of the past century: the discovery of the double helix; the characterization of the ribosome; the mapping of genomes; research on medications and drug reactions; improvements in food production and sanitation; the development of new surgeries; and others. I even queried biologists working in areas where one would expect the Darwinian paradigm to have most benefited research, such as the emergence of resistance to antibiotics and pesticides. Here, as elsewhere, I found that Darwin’s theory had provided no discernible guidance, but was brought in, after the breakthroughs, as an interesting narrative gloss.5

The magnitude of the problems with the GTE are hidden from the general public, with popular science programmes almost always peddling the secular view as fact. At the same time, creation scientists are never given a realistic opportunity to present an alternative view. In universities, even non-creationists who dare to inform students of problems with Darwin’s theory can find themselves out of a job.6 In UK state-funded schools, Government regulations now prohibit the presentation of Intelligent Design or Creation as views which are supported by evidence.



Once again evolution says nothing about creationism. Just another strawman as ruse to try and refute evolution.

The pine beetle is a good example. go read on it.




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