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Are cakes art?


No: thinking that they are is really gay
  35% (10)
No: of course they're not
  3% (1)
Don't know
  0% (0)
Don't care
  17% (5)
Maybe if they're really good cakes
  7% (2)
Yes: anybody who can charge for a made to order cake is an artisan
  28% (8)
Yes: if Haring and Koon's smug whiffle is art, so's a fancy cake
  7% (2)


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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 1:26:23 PM   
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A cake is art if I'm trampling it and making a chained slave lick it from between My toes. I should then send that cake maker a photo of what I have done with his cake. Better yet, I'll send him a VIDEO.

If you've already paid for it then I doubt they'd give a shit.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 1:29:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		True, everyone knows you have to go to Kmart for the artsy stuff.

Yes, cakes can be a work of art. Not all art is intended to be an asset. There are monks who create intricate designs in sand that are beautiful works of art, created with the purpose of destroying them to illustrate the impermanence of things. People pay ridiculous amounts of money to eat tiny portions of artistic cuisine.

As someone who was raised in the church, I understand why a business person might be compelled to stand firm on issues of faith.
I think it is wrong, and subverts the message followers were sent out to teach. That's me. I think you reach more people with kindness than you can with condemnation.

Is the baker descriminating? Yes. Is there a point were government should intervene with how a business is run? Yes, to a point. What happens when someone who sells cake takes it upon themselves to deny overweight people? What about selling to diabetics?

What happens if the do sell to a diabetic? An overweight man with a medical bracelet comes into a bakery and orders a huge cake. The store owner sees he is diabetic and half serious half joking says he hopes the guy isn't eating the entire cakes by himself. The man says, "hell yes I am!" The baker shrugs, says, "It's your funeral." The guy is found dead, 24 hours with almost all of the cake eaten. Fork in his hand, receipt for the cake on the table. A text to a friend on his phone bitching about "that asshole baker poking his nose where it wasn't wanted." Is the baker at fault? Should he have refused to sell to the overweight diabetic? Having done so, is he to be charged with homicide? If he had stood firm and refused the man, would he have been discriminating?


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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 1:34:00 PM   
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what happens if he sells to a:
Cheat
Liar
Abuser
Criminal
Pedo
Cock Womble Orange
The Clergy - some of whom are abusers, others who have papal seals and continue their fine warped work

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 2:00:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think if you asked anyone who actually makes and sells wedding cakes for a living they would assure you that it is indeed art, and if you disagreed they would invite you to save a ton of cash by buying your wedding cake from the WalMart bakery.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 2:21:43 PM   
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A cake is art if I'm trampling it and making a chained slave lick it from between My toes. I should then send that cake maker a photo of what I have done with his cake. Better yet, I'll send him a VIDEO.

If you've already paid for it then I doubt they'd give a shit.

Depends on her slave's gender: if she has another biofem as her sub, watching that would probably give this guy conniptions, wouldn't it?
(Though possibly not to the same extent as some footage of bearish Dom having a male sub eat a cake that he's sat on naked from between his buttocks in a hands free manner would...)

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 2:24:47 PM   
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True, everyone knows you have to go to Kmart for the artsy stuff.

Yes, cakes can be a work of art. Not all art is intended to be an asset. There are monks who create intricate designs in sand that are beautiful works of art, created with the purpose of destroying them to illustrate the impermanence of things. People pay ridiculous amounts of money to eat tiny portions of artistic cuisine.

As someone who was raised in the church, I understand why a business person might be compelled to stand firm on issues of faith.
I think it is wrong, and subverts the message followers were sent out to teach. That's me. I think you reach more people with kindness than you can with condemnation.

Is the baker descriminating? Yes. Is there a point were government should intervene with how a business is run? Yes, to a point. What happens when someone who sells cake takes it upon themselves to deny overweight people? What about selling to diabetics?

What happens if the do sell to a diabetic? An overweight man with a medical bracelet comes into a bakery and orders a huge cake. The store owner sees he is diabetic and half serious half joking says he hopes the guy isn't eating the entire cakes by himself. The man says, "hell yes I am!" The baker shrugs, says, "It's your funeral." The guy is found dead, 24 hours with almost all of the cake eaten. Fork in his hand, receipt for the cake on the table. A text to a friend on his phone bitching about "that asshole baker poking his nose where it wasn't wanted." Is the baker at fault? Should he have refused to sell to the overweight diabetic? Having done so, is he to be charged with homicide? If he had stood firm and refused the man, would he have been discriminating?



I guess I wasn't clear. If you want art you go to a baker. If you just want a cake you go to Walmart (or Kmart).

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 2:26:55 PM   
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How can something created by a prejudiced abomination be claimed as “art.”

Probably in the same way that the work of William Butler Yeats and Leni Reifenstahl (Nazis) Geoffrey Chaucer and Lewis Carroll (pedophiles) or Edgar Allen Poe and DW Griffiths (racists and then some) can be considered art.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 2:43:28 PM   
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True, everyone knows you have to go to Kmart for the artsy stuff.

Yes, cakes can be a work of art. Not all art is intended to be an asset. There are monks who create intricate designs in sand that are beautiful works of art, created with the purpose of destroying them to illustrate the impermanence of things. People pay ridiculous amounts of money to eat tiny portions of artistic cuisine.

As someone who was raised in the church, I understand why a business person might be compelled to stand firm on issues of faith.
I think it is wrong, and subverts the message followers were sent out to teach. That's me. I think you reach more people with kindness than you can with condemnation.

Is the baker descriminating? Yes. Is there a point were government should intervene with how a business is run? Yes, to a point. What happens when someone who sells cake takes it upon themselves to deny overweight people? What about selling to diabetics?

What happens if the do sell to a diabetic? An overweight man with a medical bracelet comes into a bakery and orders a huge cake. The store owner sees he is diabetic and half serious half joking says he hopes the guy isn't eating the entire cakes by himself. The man says, "hell yes I am!" The baker shrugs, says, "It's your funeral." The guy is found dead, 24 hours with almost all of the cake eaten. Fork in his hand, receipt for the cake on the table. A text to a friend on his phone bitching about "that asshole baker poking his nose where it wasn't wanted." Is the baker at fault? Should he have refused to sell to the overweight diabetic? Having done so, is he to be charged with homicide? If he had stood firm and refused the man, would he have been discriminating?



I guess I wasn't clear. If you want art you go to a baker. If you just want a cake you go to Walmart (or Kmart).


You were clear. I was playing on your words, just joking. The rest is me musing out loud, so to speak, about how far is too far, when it come to controlling businesses.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 4:30:44 PM   
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True, everyone knows you have to go to Kmart for the artsy stuff.

Yes, cakes can be a work of art. Not all art is intended to be an asset. There are monks who create intricate designs in sand that are beautiful works of art, created with the purpose of destroying them to illustrate the impermanence of things. People pay ridiculous amounts of money to eat tiny portions of artistic cuisine.

As someone who was raised in the church, I understand why a business person might be compelled to stand firm on issues of faith.
I think it is wrong, and subverts the message followers were sent out to teach. That's me. I think you reach more people with kindness than you can with condemnation.

Is the baker descriminating? Yes. Is there a point were government should intervene with how a business is run? Yes, to a point. What happens when someone who sells cake takes it upon themselves to deny overweight people? What about selling to diabetics?

What happens if the do sell to a diabetic? An overweight man with a medical bracelet comes into a bakery and orders a huge cake. The store owner sees he is diabetic and half serious half joking says he hopes the guy isn't eating the entire cakes by himself. The man says, "hell yes I am!" The baker shrugs, says, "It's your funeral." The guy is found dead, 24 hours with almost all of the cake eaten. Fork in his hand, receipt for the cake on the table. A text to a friend on his phone bitching about "that asshole baker poking his nose where it wasn't wanted." Is the baker at fault? Should he have refused to sell to the overweight diabetic? Having done so, is he to be charged with homicide? If he had stood firm and refused the man, would he have been discriminating?



I guess I wasn't clear. If you want art you go to a baker. If you just want a cake you go to Walmart (or Kmart).


You were clear. I was playing on your words, just joking. The rest is me musing out loud, so to speak, about how far is too far, when it come to controlling businesses.

Fair enough.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 4:36:37 PM   
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How can something created by a prejudiced abomination be claimed as “art.”

Probably in the same way that the work of William Butler Yeats and Leni Reifenstahl (Nazis) Geoffrey Chaucer and Lewis Carroll (pedophiles) or Edgar Allen Poe and DW Griffiths (racists and then some) can be considered art.


Even those look sane and benign next to Wagner, much of whose music I have to say I like.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 8:58:05 PM   
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A cake is art if I'm trampling it and making a chained slave lick it from between My toes. I should then send that cake maker a photo of what I have done with his cake. Better yet, I'll send him a VIDEO.

.....between the toes ? LIFE...is art.

Yes, between the toes. That darn cake gets everywhere.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/19/2017 10:51:13 PM   
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A cake is art if I'm trampling it and making a chained slave lick it from between My toes. I should then send that cake maker a photo of what I have done with his cake. Better yet, I'll send him a VIDEO.

.....between the toes ? LIFE...is art.

Yes, between the toes. That darn cake gets everywhere.

toes curling in delight

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:09:50 AM   
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So you're taking the line that a cake maker refusing to provide two homosexuals with a wedding cake proves that he's a proper artist, because artistry is defined by elitism and excluding people?

(I do like a couple of Greta's photos, though.)

I bet if a cake shop refuse to bake a cake for nazis in a nazi theme wedding that praise Hitler and celebrate the genocide of jews. Barely anybody would defend them.

I think when it comes to emotional bias. People just react because they are sympathetic to gay people.

But you are dealing with a religion that believes being gay is an abomination. So if we were going to allow freedom of religion, and this is a non-essential item, why should they be force to bake a cake that celebrates something that goes against their religious beliefs?

It's like forcing a Muslim to make a Bacon Cake for my wedding. It's like going a Jewish Baker and asking the poor guy to make a cake with "Hail Hitler" in it!

Are we gonna convict the Muslim or the Jew for refusing those customers?

Come on! It's ridiculous! It's their right when it trespass their religious beliefs.

Plus for gawd's sake gay people! Don't go to a Christian Baker!


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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:15:15 AM   
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What happens when someone who sells cake takes it upon themselves to deny overweight people?

Since I am overweight, I can confidently say that I won't get upset with that. Usually when people don't wanna sell cake to overweight people, it's really thinking about their health and refuse to participate in adding to their weight gain.

Seems like a noble cause.

Only unless it's an essential item like things you need to survive by necessity, then by law, they should force them to sell to anybody.

Cake to me is a luxury item, so I don't care what they discriminate against.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:26:07 AM   
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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:31:06 AM   
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Also, for black people or Asians... don't go to a whites only school!

Since we have boys only schools and girls only schools.

Yes, if a school wanna be "white only", black or Asian people probably shouldn't go there.

You know, we actually have "Muslims allowed only schools" over here.

And in Muslim countries, there is "Chinese allowed only schools" over there. In response to "Muslims allowed only schools".

It all works out.

But with schools. Money talks. If you have money, you could probably bribe a "white only" school to let you in.

Most schools are bribable. Just get your parents to donate shitloads of money to it. They will find a loophole to let you in somehow.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:33:28 AM   
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Also, for black people or Asians... don't go to a whites only school!

Since we have boys only schools and girls only schools.

Yes, if a school wanna be "white only", black or Asian people probably shouldn't go there.

You know, we actually have "Muslims allowed only schools" over here.

And in Muslim countries, there is "Chinese allowed only schools" over there. In response to "Muslims allowed only schools".

It all works out.


Well, that didn't go quite the way I expected it to go.

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:36:46 AM   
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Right.

Technically, if a skinny baker refuse to sell you cake because they think you are too big.

Find a fat baker. All works out too. How many skinny bakers are there anyway!

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:39:42 AM   
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Since we have boys only schools and girls only schools.

Yes, if a school wanna be "white only", black or Asian people probably shouldn't go there.


So you mean you support things like this, right?

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/brown/brown-segregation.html

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RE: Are cakes art? - 9/20/2017 3:46:54 AM   
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Since we have boys only schools and girls only schools.

Yes, if a school wanna be "white only", black or Asian people probably shouldn't go there.


So you mean you support things like this, right?

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/brown/brown-segregation.html

You Americans wanna bring your black history guilt. On our end, when chinese were oppressed in Malaysia and Indonesia. Not allowed to attend their schools and treated as second class citizens. We build our own schools and educate our own race ourselves.

Pro-Active, and take the lead and take control and the reins of our life.

That's how until today, you still got "Muslims only schools" and "Chinese only schools" in these regions.

I believe the US has these "Black Only University" thingy too now or is it called "Black College". That's the way. Just help yourself within your community, pool together your strength and rise up.

Because in this world, chinese worship success and money, because end of the day, if you want betterment for your race. It starts with being richer than everybody else. That's what the Chinese did in Indonesia and Malaysia. That was their goal to claw back power against their oppressors.

I mean China has been such a mess for so many years, who knew they could pull themselves together and now have US indebted to them financially. And who knew now they are going around the world, buying over world properties that government in these countries are trying to curb their buying.

You can be look down on or discriminated by the colour of your skin. But if ya focus on being richer than anybody else, everything will change, you will suddenly have power over the ones who look down on you. You can't control their feelings towards you. But you can have power in certain capacity over them with finances behind you. With money, you can bribe politicians to change things.

Take for example, how global community is crying about Myammar now. China has been doing the same to an ethic Muslim group in their country, serious genocide going on, and everybody keeps silence, because...., they can't do anything to china. What do they wanna do? Boycott China when everything is Made In China now? See this whole Made in China thingy? Also part of their master plan.

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