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Lucylastic -> Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:05:40 PM)

Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers
President Donald Trump plans to halt payments to health insurance companies serving the poorest customers on the Obamacare exchanges, the White House announced Thursday.

Trump has threatened to withhold these funds, valued at $7 billion this year, since shortly after his election victory last November. The threats alone have roiled the health insurance market, and if he follows through, it promises to be significantly disruptive. Trump will make an announcement Friday, according to Politico, which first reported the news.

In Trump’s mind, dealing damage to the Obamacare market is a means to achieve leverage he believes will force congressional Democrats to cooperate with replacing the Affordable Care Act, the law President Barack Obama signed in 2010 that has brought the number of uninsured Americans to a historic low.

Trump has been undermining the law and its programs since he took office in January, and he has ramped up his efforts in recent weeks in the aftermath of his failure to get the Affordable Care Act repealed by Congress. Earlier Thursday, Trump signed an executive order directing federal agencies to change regulations to allow insurers to sell policies that exclude people with pre-existing conditions and have skimpier benefits than insurance governed by the Affordable Care Act.

The mere possibility that Trump would refuse to pay money owed to health insurance companies created additional instability in market. Insurers are raising premiums for next year even more than they would have as they try to protect themselves against financial losses if the federal government reneges on its obligations.

The open-enrollment period on health insurance exchanges, such as HealthCare.gov and Covered California, begins Nov. 1, less than three weeks from now.

The payments Trump plans to end are related to so-called cost-sharing reductions offered to insurance exchange enrollees who earn up to 250 percent of the federal poverty level, which is $30,150 for a single person. These subsidies serve to reduce out-of-pocket expenses for low-income people by shrinking their deductibles, co-payments and the like.

Almost 6 million people, or 57 percent of Obamacare enrollees, qualified for these subsidies when they enrolled this year, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Under the Affordable Care Act, health insurance companies are required to reduce this cost-sharing. The federal government is supposed to reimburse them for the cost, and it has since exchange plans went live in January 2014.

Trump will change that soon. He has the authority to do so because of a lawsuit then-House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) brought against Obama in 2014. House Republicans claimed Obama illegally made these payments without an explicit congressional appropriation of the funding.

A federal judge sided with House Republicans last year but allowed Obama to continue paying back insurers while the case went through the appeals process.

But when Trump succeeded Obama as president, his administration became the defendant in the case, raising doubt about how Trump and House Republicans would proceed. The parties in the lawsuit have obtained several delays in the proceedings in the meantime. The appeals court ruled in August that the attorneys general from 17 states and the District of Columbia are permitted take up the defense, based on the state officials’ concerns that the Trump administration would fail to do so.

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced Thursday that he and those other attorneys general are prepared to sue Trump over the cost-sharing reduction payments.

“Based on guidance from the Department of Justice, the Department of Health and Human Services has concluded that there is no appropriation for cost-sharing reduction payments to insurance companies under Obamacare. In light of this analysis, the government cannot lawfully make the cost-sharing reduction payments. The United States House of Representatives sued the previous administration in federal court for making these payments without such an appropriation, and the court agreed that the payments were not lawful. The bailout of insurance companies through these unlawful payments is yet another example of how the previous administration abused taxpayer dollars and skirted the law to prop up a broken system. Congress needs to repeal and replace the disastrous Obamacare law and provide real relief to the American people.”
Congress could address the cost-sharing reduction payments issue by authorizing the spending in legislation but has not done so.

The immediate effect of Trump pulling the cost-sharing reduction payments will be mixed. Health insurance exchange customers who earn too much to qualify for subsidies will have to bear the full brunt of the premium increases insurers instituted to protect themselves. Those customers who receive subsidies will mostly be shielded from the rate hikes because their subsidies will rise along with the premiums.

Ironically, cutting off these payments to health insurance companies will actually cost taxpayers more than continuing them. Because higher premiums mean bigger subsidies, federal spending will rise by almost $200 billion, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

The news about the cost-sharing reduction payments comes just hours after Trump signed an executive order that could shake up the Affordable Care Act’s insurance markets ― and quite possibly hobble them more.

Looking ahead, however, ending the payments jeopardizes the future of the exchanges. Many major health insurance companies already have pulled out of the marketplaces, citing financial losses. In future years, it’s likely fewer companies will want to participate in the exchanges knowing might not get expected payments. Some parts of the country would have no health insurance carriers in operation under this scenario, the Congressional Budget Office predicted.

Experts and a variety of health care groups immediately warned that the new insurance plans the executive order might allow would also draw healthy people out of the Affordable Care Act markets, forcing insurers to raise premiums or shut down plans altogether ― leaving the people who want or need comprehensive coverage with fewer, more expensive options, or none at all.

These are the latest moves Trump has made to weaken the health insurance exchanges:

The administration has severely cut back on the Department of Health and Human Services’ programs to promote health insurance enrollment, including major reductions in advertising and in-person assistance. The administration also halved the sign-up period to six weeks and plans to take the HealthCare.gov website down for as long as 12 hours every Sunday during the enrollment campaign.

The Department of Health and Human Services also spent money intended for enrollment support on a campaign that criticizes the programs it’s supposed to be managing.




WhoreMods -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:09:29 PM)

"If you like your policy, you can't keep it. Some orange piece of shit with a wig Stan Lee would turn down will do away with it, then claim it was the Congress' fault, not his."




Hillwilliam -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:17:21 PM)

Fucking his base again.
Poor whites who are barely getting by. I work with a bunch of them and they LOVE him.




WhoreMods -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:18:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Fucking his base again.
Poor whites who are barely getting by. I work with a bunch of them and they LOVE him.

Then they can't blame the fucking they're getting on anybody else.
(Probably won't stop them, mind.)




Hillwilliam -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:21:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Fucking his base again.
Poor whites who are barely getting by. I work with a bunch of them and they LOVE him.

Then they can't blame the fucking they're getting on anybody else.
(Probably won't stop them, mind.)

They will.
I have ex coal miners working here for $10/hour and they're convinced the mines are gonna reopen before winter.




MrRodgers -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:23:10 PM)

Fuck the cake...let them all die. I mean, who in the fuck cares anymore ?

That's what Americans did a whole lot more of than just 3-4 years younger than Europeans and Canadians now...before Medicare.

In America, you are born, you are to then make a profit for yourself or somebody else, or just go to jail...or die. Preferably and at great cost-savings, you'll die in jail.

But don't despair, grandma and grandpa will be Soylent Green and providing a great patriotic service. Yea...yea, there is also to be Soylent Red and Yellow but they are still working on that. I wonder if their will be lawsuits over being forced to eat your grandparents ?





ShaharThorne -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:24:01 PM)

Meanwhile I am trying my damnest to get the treatments I need before I am kicked off of Medicare and Medicaid...I knew this shit would happen when the Dorito was ushered in...





Drakvampire -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:24:59 PM)

I think it is lovely Trump hacks into his core Red neck idiot base

I feel it will end well. He is after all a handsome war hero and the bravest man in America – save by a cruel quirk called Hillary &^ crippled by a jaggy toe nail and in no way a draft dodging cowardly pussy shittng himself at the very back

You are such a liberal hater lucy.




WhoreMods -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:25:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Fuck the cake...let them all die. I mean, who in the fuck cares anymore ?

That's what Americans did a whole lot more of than just 3-4 years younger than Europeans and Canadians now...before Medicare.

In America, you are born, you are to then make a profit for yourself or somebody else, or just go to jail...or die. Preferably and at great cost-savings, you'll die in jail.

But don't despair, grandma and grandpa will be Soylent Green and providing a great patriotic service. Yea...yea, there is also to be Soylent Red and Yellow but they are still working on that. I wonder if their will be lawsuits over being forced to eat your grandparents ?



You can forget about Soylent Green: Americans have been unfit for human consumption since the '50s. Did you never see those pro-DDT PSA films?




WhoreMods -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:27:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

Meanwhile I am trying my damnest to get the treatments I need before I am kicked off of Medicare and Medicaid...I knew this shit would happen when the Dorito was ushered in...



You're on a clock for getting your medical benefits pulled now?




Drakvampire -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:30:08 PM)

I wonder who they voted for?
Obv not you two.

Who did you vote for Americans?




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:33:56 PM)

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/355360-15-states-sue-over-trump-halted-obamacare-payments

15 states sue over Trump-halted ObamaCare payments,

A new multistate lawsuit has been announced to stop President Trump from halting key ObamaCare payments to insurers.

Fifteen states and Washington, D.C., are signing onto the new lawsuit, which will be filed Friday, according to Sarah Lovenheim, a spokeswoman for California Attorney General Xavier Becerra.

On Thursday night, Trump announced he would stop making the payments, which led to an outcry from critics saying he was sabotaging the health care law.

The complaint will seek a temporary restraining order, preliminary injunction and permanent injunction requiring the cost-sharing reduction payments be made.

More at the link....


Is there an EO that the ooze has signed, that doesnt have someone suing over it?




Drakvampire -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:35:16 PM)

Trump is the Savior is there something very wrong with you?




Drakvampire -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:38:24 PM)

you are a fucking Hillary loving trouble maker and clearly mentall ill you bitter twisted old hag


Like those apples eh!




ShaharThorne -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:45:16 PM)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/medicare-advantage-plans-2018-finding-health-insurance/

For those of us in rural areas, some doctors are kinda refusing to take any new Medicare patients due to the opiate addictions going around. I mainly need pain management because I do overuse my back a lot, chiro care for the same thing, GYN services due to family history of reproductive cancers, diabetes care (but I pay OOP for my teststrips). This past week, I think my AC in my shoulder has finally gave out which means I might need surgery. I also get treatment for 3 mental illnesses, one being PTSD which flared up when the damned news were showing damned clips of the Vegas shootings (too much to be in the same room, I can't even stand fireworks). If Frump gets his way, I am fucked over 20 ways from Sunday.




Drakvampire -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:48:18 PM)

Fucking turn coat

I will be happy when 1 000 000’s of my lords minions die to prove he was correct – well when my cowardly lord bone spurs is done shitting at the most very back bushes.

You Hillary lot make me sick and your fake neews is fuking pathetic. Is tha the best you can come up with against my millions of zomie crpses?


How you like that set of blocks bitch?

You are sick
A truck load of medication cannot help you




Drakvampire -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:49:36 PM)

Who did you and they vote for?




WhoreMods -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 12:51:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/medicare-advantage-plans-2018-finding-health-insurance/

For those of us in rural areas, some doctors are kinda refusing to take any new Medicare patients due to the opiate addictions going around. I mainly need pain management because I do overuse my back a lot, chiro care for the same thing, GYN services due to family history of reproductive cancers, diabetes care (but I pay OOP for my teststrips). This past week, I think my AC in my shoulder has finally gave out which means I might need surgery. I also get treatment for 3 mental illnesses, one being PTSD which flared up when the damned news were showing damned clips of the Vegas shootings (too much to be in the same room, I can't even stand fireworks). If Frump gets his way, I am fucked over 20 ways from Sunday.

Dear christ.
Why in hell's name do the military and its veterans keep voting republican? I find it hard to believe the democrats could manage to treat you even half as shittily.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 2:07:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/medicare-advantage-plans-2018-finding-health-insurance/

For those of us in rural areas, some doctors are kinda refusing to take any new Medicare patients due to the opiate addictions going around. I mainly need pain management because I do overuse my back a lot, chiro care for the same thing, GYN services due to family history of reproductive cancers, diabetes care (but I pay OOP for my teststrips). This past week, I think my AC in my shoulder has finally gave out which means I might need surgery. I also get treatment for 3 mental illnesses, one being PTSD which flared up when the damned news were showing damned clips of the Vegas shootings (too much to be in the same room, I can't even stand fireworks). If Frump gets his way, I am fucked over 20 ways from Sunday.

Dear christ.
Why in hell's name do the military and its veterans keep voting republican? I find it hard to believe the democrats could manage to treat you even half as shittily.


simple,.... the gop always get into military spending. which most WW2 Vets favor, but what the Vets don't understand is the spending the gop does is always on new armaments, new ships, new planes like the "osprey" that wasted millions in development before it got even remotely usable, all because the stocks those companies who have those federal contract's, are owned by the gop's real constituents.... the 1%.

they spend in comparison crap on the rank & file, and renege on promises to Vets & their spouses.....all in favor of cost cutting, and tax cuts to the wealthy.




JVoV -> RE: Trump To Cut Off Billions In Key Obamacare Payments To Insurers (10/13/2017 2:10:01 PM)

The only solution is to draft a sensible replacement for the ACA, and get it going as a Constitutional Amendment.




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